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		<title>By: scholarr</title>
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		<dc:creator>scholarr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2011 23:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Putting forward intelligence operations in Afghanistan has become a profession for Pakistan. It has become a decease for it. This country doesn&#039;t have any sense of confidence. It is terrified of imaginary competitions and war with India, and Afghanistan. It is always scared lest, an anti-Pakistani policy government might be in power in Afghanistan which would just bring it to justice for what it did in the past. That has been the reason for why Parvis M. has always tried to ward off the (Tajik) dominated Northern Alliance not to get in power. May god bless Afghans and leads Pakistanis. Aamen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Putting forward intelligence operations in Afghanistan has become a profession for Pakistan. It has become a decease for it. This country doesn&#8217;t have any sense of confidence. It is terrified of imaginary competitions and war with India, and Afghanistan. It is always scared lest, an anti-Pakistani policy government might be in power in Afghanistan which would just bring it to justice for what it did in the past. That has been the reason for why Parvis M. has always tried to ward off the (Tajik) dominated Northern Alliance not to get in power. May god bless Afghans and leads Pakistanis. Aamen.</p>
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		<title>By: G-W</title>
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		<dc:creator>G-W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 19:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Manish, Sanjiv,

Manish it is sad, but in 60 years, Pakistan has done nothing but maintain and honed its skill at causing agitation and becoming a parasitic international migraine.

Still, after Partition, Pakistani&#039;s do not have a real and true sense of national identity, outside of being known as a bastion-ed fort for extremist Islam.

It seems Pakistani&#039;s are terrified, or extremely jealous of being outclassed by India, with the exception of momentary wins in Cricket, even though India is doing goodwill work in Afghanistan.  

Pakistan does not want India to make any friends through honesty and good works, simply because those types of friendship are not founded on enmity, war, fighting or common hatred of enemies, but a deeper friendship of understanding, trust, honesty, shared common values and a desire for regional brotherhood.

The Afghans have not received one iota of any redeeming gifts from Pakistan, except opportunistic meddling by the ISI and the Pak Army, who have helped create the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, to some extent.

To me, this question of even questioning India&#039;s presence in Afghanistan is merely coddling and appeasing loud mouth pieces in Pakistan who cannot handle progress or competition by its neighbours.

I said many times earlier in my posts, over the last year that Obama, now that he is in power, like a cunning and sharp lawyer with big fangs, he will create the situation with Pakistan, that Pakistan will become incrementally more and more cornered and time goes and will be forced to fight the militant groups that they created.

Afghanistan is Pakistan&#039;s old bone yard or recruiting ground for terrorists, since 1947.  It was in 1947 that Pakistani establishment hired the Waziri Pashtun Tribesmen to rape, conquer and plunder Kashmir and take Delhi and Punjab, so as to seize them as Islamically conquered territories.  Unfortunately, the greedy criminal tribesman got too caught up busy looting and raping and lost sight of their original mission for which they were hired and luckily for India, did not achieve their task.

All future aid and loans must be tied to Pakistani&#039;s showing the world that they are measurably and transparently smashing the madrassa system, reforming their education, so as to make it modern and available to all their peoples and the constitution must be amended to make all peoples equal as human beings under the law in Pakistan.

Above all, the world must put a stop to all terror camps in Pakistan, not even one should be allowed to exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Manish, Sanjiv,</p>
<p>Manish it is sad, but in 60 years, Pakistan has done nothing but maintain and honed its skill at causing agitation and becoming a parasitic international migraine.</p>
<p>Still, after Partition, Pakistani&#8217;s do not have a real and true sense of national identity, outside of being known as a bastion-ed fort for extremist Islam.</p>
<p>It seems Pakistani&#8217;s are terrified, or extremely jealous of being outclassed by India, with the exception of momentary wins in Cricket, even though India is doing goodwill work in Afghanistan.  </p>
<p>Pakistan does not want India to make any friends through honesty and good works, simply because those types of friendship are not founded on enmity, war, fighting or common hatred of enemies, but a deeper friendship of understanding, trust, honesty, shared common values and a desire for regional brotherhood.</p>
<p>The Afghans have not received one iota of any redeeming gifts from Pakistan, except opportunistic meddling by the ISI and the Pak Army, who have helped create the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, to some extent.</p>
<p>To me, this question of even questioning India&#8217;s presence in Afghanistan is merely coddling and appeasing loud mouth pieces in Pakistan who cannot handle progress or competition by its neighbours.</p>
<p>I said many times earlier in my posts, over the last year that Obama, now that he is in power, like a cunning and sharp lawyer with big fangs, he will create the situation with Pakistan, that Pakistan will become incrementally more and more cornered and time goes and will be forced to fight the militant groups that they created.</p>
<p>Afghanistan is Pakistan&#8217;s old bone yard or recruiting ground for terrorists, since 1947.  It was in 1947 that Pakistani establishment hired the Waziri Pashtun Tribesmen to rape, conquer and plunder Kashmir and take Delhi and Punjab, so as to seize them as Islamically conquered territories.  Unfortunately, the greedy criminal tribesman got too caught up busy looting and raping and lost sight of their original mission for which they were hired and luckily for India, did not achieve their task.</p>
<p>All future aid and loans must be tied to Pakistani&#8217;s showing the world that they are measurably and transparently smashing the madrassa system, reforming their education, so as to make it modern and available to all their peoples and the constitution must be amended to make all peoples equal as human beings under the law in Pakistan.</p>
<p>Above all, the world must put a stop to all terror camps in Pakistan, not even one should be allowed to exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Manish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sanjiv, 

It is not proper to mention this term as &quot; India&#039;s Expanded Role&quot; , in fact this should be known as : revival of centuries old relationship with Afghanistan. India&#039;s role in  Afghanistan is that of development , building schools, hospitals, parliament building etc , where Pakistan has been helping the terror groups and religions fanatics in Afghanistan for decades . 

Pakistan has been  exposed as Terrorist state and has become a nuisance before international community . All these talks of India&#039;s expanded role in Afghanistan  suffers from gross  inferiority complex.   A survey  done by BBC and other reputed  media organisations, revealed that  a large majority of Afghan people  not only approve but highly commend Indian role in Afghanistan. When  people  of Afghanistan approve Indian role, why  must it bother Pakis ?

Pakistan is sponsor of global jehad and terrorism , presence of nuclear weapons in Pakistan pose great threat to survival of humanity . The international community should  not be misled by false Pakistani propoganda , instead must  concentrate its efforts to secure them .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sanjiv, </p>
<p>It is not proper to mention this term as &#8221; India&#8217;s Expanded Role&#8221; , in fact this should be known as : revival of centuries old relationship with Afghanistan. India&#8217;s role in  Afghanistan is that of development , building schools, hospitals, parliament building etc , where Pakistan has been helping the terror groups and religions fanatics in Afghanistan for decades . </p>
<p>Pakistan has been  exposed as Terrorist state and has become a nuisance before international community . All these talks of India&#8217;s expanded role in Afghanistan  suffers from gross  inferiority complex.   A survey  done by BBC and other reputed  media organisations, revealed that  a large majority of Afghan people  not only approve but highly commend Indian role in Afghanistan. When  people  of Afghanistan approve Indian role, why  must it bother Pakis ?</p>
<p>Pakistan is sponsor of global jehad and terrorism , presence of nuclear weapons in Pakistan pose great threat to survival of humanity . The international community should  not be misled by false Pakistani propoganda , instead must  concentrate its efforts to secure them .</p>
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		<title>By: axindi</title>
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		<dc:creator>axindi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting discussion here. In my personal view this problem had been created in 1947 with partition and the only way it can be solved is by the re-integration of the sub-continent, through a fast track SAARC union, with Myanmar in it if possible. India is the biggest player and the biggest looser in the region if it does not make this happen. Can the Hindu elite share ruling power with Muslims, that is the big question that broke things down in 1947 and is still haunting the region. Now things are spiraling down to ever more complications, but there is no alternative but to go back where it all started, albeit through a different vehicle like SAARC union. British strategic shortsight and Russian treachery also played in handing over Xinjiang and Tibet to PRC and finally the breaking of the subcontinent created this cauldron of trouble. Xinjiang and Tibet has been lost forever. Pakistan has been pushed to a corner to have no choice but to deal with the devil that is China, so it is India and only India’s responsibility to change that reality and bring wayward Pakistan back to homeward bound, this must sink in Indian leadership and only then through unilateral moves from the Indian side we may see some change. Blaming Pakistan for India’s travails will not help one bit, if India wants to secure its own and its regions future then it must take matters in its own hand, not by force, but with tact, diplomacy and charm offensive. And the global powers such as the US and EU must make it their priority as well, to stabilize the region. This will be much cheaper than sending half of US Army in Afghanistan, which only further complicates the situation on the ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting discussion here. In my personal view this problem had been created in 1947 with partition and the only way it can be solved is by the re-integration of the sub-continent, through a fast track SAARC union, with Myanmar in it if possible. India is the biggest player and the biggest looser in the region if it does not make this happen. Can the Hindu elite share ruling power with Muslims, that is the big question that broke things down in 1947 and is still haunting the region. Now things are spiraling down to ever more complications, but there is no alternative but to go back where it all started, albeit through a different vehicle like SAARC union. British strategic shortsight and Russian treachery also played in handing over Xinjiang and Tibet to PRC and finally the breaking of the subcontinent created this cauldron of trouble. Xinjiang and Tibet has been lost forever. Pakistan has been pushed to a corner to have no choice but to deal with the devil that is China, so it is India and only India’s responsibility to change that reality and bring wayward Pakistan back to homeward bound, this must sink in Indian leadership and only then through unilateral moves from the Indian side we may see some change. Blaming Pakistan for India’s travails will not help one bit, if India wants to secure its own and its regions future then it must take matters in its own hand, not by force, but with tact, diplomacy and charm offensive. And the global powers such as the US and EU must make it their priority as well, to stabilize the region. This will be much cheaper than sending half of US Army in Afghanistan, which only further complicates the situation on the ground.</p>
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		<title>By: Dara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should the extent of India&#039;s involvement in Afghanistan be determined by Pakistani interests or is it a matter of Indian and Afghan interests? One is forced to ask this question because all discussion seems to center around Pakistani concerns and fears. The fact is that this became a topic after Gen McChrystal&#039;s report a few months ago. That report really catered to US interests in Afghanistan. India Afghanistan relationship should be based on mutual interests and benefits, not on third party considerations.

This mornings newspaper carries results of a domestic poll conducted in Afghanistan in Dec 09. It reflects that Indian assistance and role is appreciated the most (71%) followed by Germany (59%), USA (51%). Iran (50%); significantly appreciation of the role Taliban is (3%) is more than that of Pakistan (2%).

Perhaps there is a message there which needs to be spelt out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should the extent of India&#8217;s involvement in Afghanistan be determined by Pakistani interests or is it a matter of Indian and Afghan interests? One is forced to ask this question because all discussion seems to center around Pakistani concerns and fears. The fact is that this became a topic after Gen McChrystal&#8217;s report a few months ago. That report really catered to US interests in Afghanistan. India Afghanistan relationship should be based on mutual interests and benefits, not on third party considerations.</p>
<p>This mornings newspaper carries results of a domestic poll conducted in Afghanistan in Dec 09. It reflects that Indian assistance and role is appreciated the most (71%) followed by Germany (59%), USA (51%). Iran (50%); significantly appreciation of the role Taliban is (3%) is more than that of Pakistan (2%).</p>
<p>Perhaps there is a message there which needs to be spelt out.</p>
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		<title>By: Ehsan Khan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ehsan Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>India should not try to make Afghanistan a new battlefield. Afghanistan should be left to the Afghanis. If India continues to play the politico-military role in Afghanistan, which is being ruled by non-Pashtun elements (Hamid Karzai is just a show piece), it would certainly work for driving a wedge in the major ethnic communities of Afghanistan. Hence, who would pay the cost. Of course, Afghanis. So, India had had enough and should not make Afghanistan a playground of its hegemonic designs. Hindus can never be sincere to the Muslims. They are trying to take political advantages. Pakistan has been and is still second home for the Afghanis. Even today, about 10% of Afghan population is living in Pakistan... Over 5 million Afghan Mohajireen. May Allah bless Afghanistan, Aammeen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>India should not try to make Afghanistan a new battlefield. Afghanistan should be left to the Afghanis. If India continues to play the politico-military role in Afghanistan, which is being ruled by non-Pashtun elements (Hamid Karzai is just a show piece), it would certainly work for driving a wedge in the major ethnic communities of Afghanistan. Hence, who would pay the cost. Of course, Afghanis. So, India had had enough and should not make Afghanistan a playground of its hegemonic designs. Hindus can never be sincere to the Muslims. They are trying to take political advantages. Pakistan has been and is still second home for the Afghanis. Even today, about 10% of Afghan population is living in Pakistan&#8230; Over 5 million Afghan Mohajireen. May Allah bless Afghanistan, Aammeen.</p>
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		<title>By: Achal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is slight iota of doubt , that any decreasing role of India in Afghanistan would only benefit Pakistan and its larger ally China in central Asian region. India should come out with a a very clear policy towards Afghanistan in all respects - civilian, diplomatic, defence, etc. This will not only help India but US also to position India in central Asia vis-a-vis China , and help India in consolidating both its soft power and geopolitical influence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is slight iota of doubt , that any decreasing role of India in Afghanistan would only benefit Pakistan and its larger ally China in central Asian region. India should come out with a a very clear policy towards Afghanistan in all respects &#8211; civilian, diplomatic, defence, etc. This will not only help India but US also to position India in central Asia vis-a-vis China , and help India in consolidating both its soft power and geopolitical influence.</p>
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		<title>By: Sathish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sathish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of whether Pakistan is antagonistic to Indian involvement or not, India cannot afford to lose its foothold in Afghanistan. Any step to scale down its operations in Afghanistan will be a step in the wrong direction. India shares the concern with US about the expanding role of China in central Asia.Pakistan is a strong ally of China and both have been trying to curb the influence of India. Any vacuum left by India would be occupied by China which does not share the democratic concerns of India and the West. Hence a weakened Indian role in Afghanistan would ultimately benefit the Chinese, who have larger geopolitical interest in the region.
             There are domestic concerns within India about deploying troops and hence at present India is not a part of the US led war against terrorism. Hence the question of overstretching doesn&#039;t arise.Also this is not like what happened in Sri Lanka where the Indian troops were caught in trouble between the Lankan army and LTTE. It played the role of a mediator then. In the case of Afghanistan, Indian role is passive in nature. It only aids and do not arbitrates. Hence there should not be any concern domestically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of whether Pakistan is antagonistic to Indian involvement or not, India cannot afford to lose its foothold in Afghanistan. Any step to scale down its operations in Afghanistan will be a step in the wrong direction. India shares the concern with US about the expanding role of China in central Asia.Pakistan is a strong ally of China and both have been trying to curb the influence of India. Any vacuum left by India would be occupied by China which does not share the democratic concerns of India and the West. Hence a weakened Indian role in Afghanistan would ultimately benefit the Chinese, who have larger geopolitical interest in the region.<br />
             There are domestic concerns within India about deploying troops and hence at present India is not a part of the US led war against terrorism. Hence the question of overstretching doesn&#8217;t arise.Also this is not like what happened in Sri Lanka where the Indian troops were caught in trouble between the Lankan army and LTTE. It played the role of a mediator then. In the case of Afghanistan, Indian role is passive in nature. It only aids and do not arbitrates. Hence there should not be any concern domestically.</p>
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		<title>By: Anitha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anitha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>India at the moment cannot streatch militarily, when the army in india are unable to get their act together to curb infiltration from just one side of the border. With the threat from chinese border, pakistan border alive, how can India afford to send troops to afghanistan in a scale which can combat pakistani and taliban forces ? Even if that happens what about security at home ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>India at the moment cannot streatch militarily, when the army in india are unable to get their act together to curb infiltration from just one side of the border. With the threat from chinese border, pakistan border alive, how can India afford to send troops to afghanistan in a scale which can combat pakistani and taliban forces ? Even if that happens what about security at home ?</p>
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		<title>By: Sanjeev Miglani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanjeev Miglani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to add to this debate, the last time India deployed troops abroad was in Sri Lanka in the 1980s, and it wasn&#039;t a happy experience. Not that we are talking of boots on the ground at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to add to this debate, the last time India deployed troops abroad was in Sri Lanka in the 1980s, and it wasn&#8217;t a happy experience. Not that we are talking of boots on the ground at the moment.</p>
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