Afghan Journal

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Saving Afghanistan from its neighbours

May 30, 2010
(A view of the tent in Kabul where the jirga will be held.Reuters/ Ahmad Masood

(A view of the tent in Kabul where the jirga will be held. Reuters/Ahmad Masood

Walking into a giant tent at the foothills of Kabul, you are conscious of the importance of jirgas throughout Afghanistan’s troubled history.  These assemblies of tribal elders have been called at key moments in the country’s history  from whether it should participate in the two World Wars to a call for a national uprising against an Iranian invasion in the 18th century.

Next week’s jirga is aimed at building  a national consensus behind Afghan President Hamid Karzai’s effort to seek a negotiated settlement of the nine year conflict now that the Taliban have fought U.S. and NATO forces to a virtual stalemate and the clock on a U.S. military withdrawal has begun.

But the question is how much of an influence Afghanistan’s half a dozen direct neighbours including Pakistan and Iran  and near ones such as India, Saudi Arabia and Russia will exert on any possible settlement of the conflict. At one level Afghanistan  has become a battleground for India and Pakistan  on the one hand, and the United States and Iran on the other.  At another level there is also China’s deepening economic engagement and  Russis’s concerns of the arc of instability radiating from Afghanistan into the Central Asia republics.

Here’s how some of the big regional players are approaching a  U.S. military withdrawal stated to begin from mid-2011 and  Karzai’sbid to seek reconciliation with the Taliban who have  fought U.S. and NATO forces to a virtual stalemate.

PAKISTAN
Of all of Afghanistan’s six direct neighbours, Pakistan  arguably has the highest stake in the country. The insurgency is  largely driven by the Pasthun Taliban and there are Pasthuns on  both sides of the Durand Line, the border between the two  countries. Many of the early Taliban, who swept through southern  Afghanistan in the 1990s after years of civil war, grew up in  refugee camps in Pakistan which hosts the largest number.

Above all, Pakistan considers Afghanistan its sphere of  influence, offering it strategic depth against its much bigger  traditional enemy India. It built close ties with the Taliban as they brought the fractious nation under their control and along with Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates was one of the  three countries that recognised the Taliban rule from 1996 to 2001.

It had to cut its ties to the group following the U.S.  invasion but if any of the regional players has any degree of  influence over the hardline Islamists, it is Pakistan. It wants  to be main channel of any peace negotiation withthem; it doesn’t  even want Afghanistan to conduct separate negotiations with them,  says Kamran Bokhari, regional director Middle East and South Asis for global intelligence consulting company STRATFOR.

“For  Pakistan, all roads to Kabul must lead through Islamabad.”

INDIA
India does not share a border withAfghanistan, but has over  the years built close ties with the country. It sees Afghanistan as a potential ally against Pakistan and over the longer-term as  a gateway to Central Asian energy resources. Its immediate concerns are security : it worries that the return of the Afghan  Taliban will further embolden anti-India groups based in Pakistan such as the Lashkar-e-Taibato carry out attacks, with or without  a nod from the Pakistani security establishment tied to these groups.

It therefore opposes any dialogue with the Taliban, but especially any negotiation that has the Pakistanis as the  fulcrum. It was seriously rattled when the U.S. and NATO agreed  at the January 28 London conference on Afghanistan to begin re-integrating Taliban fighters. Karzaiwent further by demanding  reconciliation with the Taliban led by Mullah Mohammed Omar.New Delhi has since stepped up regional diplomacy,  reactivating links with Iran and Russia – the three countries  that backed the Northern Alliance against the Taliban in the  1990s.

“The interests of India, Iran and Russia are aligned, and that will be a factor going forward,” says Bokhari. At the same  time the Indians are telling Washington that while they  recognised its dependency on Pakistan in tackling Afghanistan, there were limits to putting all its eggs in one basket.

IRAN
For Iran, Afghanistan is part of a high-stakes tussle it is  engaged in with the United States, analysts say. Its message to  the Americans is if you want to leave Afghanistan, you have to  recognise Tehran has a stake there, just as it has in Iraq as  United States winds down military involvement. “Afghanistan is  tied to the whole scope of U.S.-Iran negotiations, its about  regime security” says Bokhari. In the shorter term, though,  members of the Iranian intelligence services and the  Revolutionary Guard have been backing elements of the Taliban.  The Iranians, who supported the Northern Alliance against the  Taliban, want to have broad-based connections. Helping the  Taliban in a limited way is a tool directed at the United States.
CHINA
Afghanistan shares a tiny sliver of border with China, and  there have been security concerns over Islamic extremism spilling  over into China which is battling an uprising in its  predominantly Muslim-majority region of Xinjiang. But analysts  say these concerns are overstated and that Beijing’s expanding  involvement in Afghanistan is almost entirely driven by  commercial interests. It sees Afghanistan as a potential source  for mineral resources and energy to feed its vast demand. China  is already developing the world’s largest unexplored copper  deposits in Logar province and is a bidder for an iron ore  project. Stability in Afghanistan is key to its economic  interests and unlike the West pushing for democracy, the Chinese  would rather have the Afghans choose a type of government based  on local culture, customs and domestic conditions. It is also  content to let all weather ally Pakistan lead the policy to  Afghanistan, and has in the past not been overly critical of  approaches to the Taliban.

Comments

There is a very simple formula given by Lord Jesus in the bible to save oneself from one’s neighbours – Love thy neighbour as thy own. The vedic scriptures go several steps higher – “athithi devo bhava”. But obviously instead of reading different holy scriptures and seeing the presence of the Lord in all different religions, the muslim countries are busy burning other scriptures. They have become very intolerant to anything that is not Islamic. They treat minorities worse than animals. Even muslims (Ahmadis) in Pakistan are being massacared.

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@ asif

These intolerants living in every society who dont care about humanity, be they are muslims killing their own muslims or hindu burning muslims and destroying their mosques. Its barbaric and condamnbable in every aspects though Ahmadis are not Muslims according to constitution of Pakistan.

Posted by Khan | Report as abusive
 

A very intriguing article which has a verry limited impact on Afghanistan. Afghanistan is a pashtoon land, if the tajiks, uzbeks and hazara residents accept the Pashtoon chief in Kabul to deal with the outside world, then things can progress in an evolutionary manner as in previous times. The Pakhtoonkhwa, new name for NWFP, is the direct neighbour from where the Afghan receive their food supplies. As soonn as the fate of Baluchistan has been decided, Afghanistan could have a direct link to the ocean, thereby loosening up their land locked country since the time ob British colonisation of the Indian sub-continent. In view of Pakistan military incursion in the Pashtoon land, it would be impossible to set up a stable Govt. in Pakistan without the tacit agreement of Pashtoon leaders in PakhtoonKhwa, viza viz Afghanistan. The Indian Govt. have no political or military role in Afghanistan other than to maintain good relation with the Pashtoons. Pakistan has proven themselves time and again to be a paper tiger even with their lethal weapons, which by the way are under the control of the Pashtoons!! The USA could save their face by withdrawing quitely promising the supply of aid without gaining any agreement for basis. The wise Chinese and Iranian administations would continue their role of friendship and support without interference in the domestic affairs of the country.

Posted by rex minor | Report as abusive
 

Khan – and what right does the govt. have to decide who is a muslim or not. Dont play into the hands of this lousy govt by saying ahmedis are not muslims. This govt has only given us pain and sorrow. The job of the govt. is to collect taxes and protect all its citizens irrespective of their religious affiliations. The lord does not differentiate between a believer and even an atheist so who are these lousy, corrupt, alchohol drinkers, womanisers to decide.

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khan – forget hindus killing muslims and pulling down their mosques. first the muslims should get their own house in order. You should ask why are the muslims so intolerant to every other religion. India has for the past several centuries beeen home to every religion. Muslims, Buddhists, Christians, jews, parsis. Every non muslim country treats muslims much much better than muslim countries treat their minorities.

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@ asif… No body ligitmize killing of humanity. As my religion has clearly directed that killing of a single human is killing of whole humanity. I have never praised my govt, on contrary i am the big critic of our govt and dumb politicians. Beside govt has many functions to do, and for that it requires a CONSTITUTON to run. If something has been mentioned in it would have followed after research and analysis.It may be aimed to conserve spirituality which exist in originality of our religion. But this also does not certified people to kill humanity for that reason.

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khan – thanks for the clarification. But constitution, law is often a tool to fool people and for the leaders to achieve their ill motivated ends. Hence we must follow simple tenets of life. Like the Holy Bible says : “do unto others as you would have them do unto you”. Killing innocent people praying in a Holy Mosque is worse than a criminal coming home and killing you.

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@ asif …. yes agreed

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@seema….. c,mmon dont propagate against Pakistan and muslims in your every post. Its very strange that indian tend to champ of humanity where their hands red with the blood of Muslims and Chiristians and other minorities. This you can pick from Kashmir to Gujrat. Well what about christians and their missionaries burned alive. The hindu mentality you can guess from the prospective that they even erect BJP govt on the basis of Muslims hatred. They even cant digest simple rightfull words from a bollywood star in favour of Pakistani cricketers who repelled from IPL on basis of love Hindus or Indians had for them. Now can ask the minorities in Pakistan about the conditions they live in and enjoy. It included Sikhs, Hindu, Chiristians,Parsis etc.

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khan – India is being run by a sikh(PM), an italian(Leader of the largest party) and not so long ago a muslim (President) all minorities. And what is the first thing the Pak govt. does, it differentiate between its citizens on the basis of their religion. So much so that even Ahmadi muslims are massacared all with the support of the govt. Legislations are made so that they are not even allowed to call themselves muslims. Look at what has happened to the large hindu population in pak. There are being persecuted for having a different belief. In india the population of all minorities is growing. Kashmir is a muslim dominated state where no hindu can dream of holding any high govt. post.

Shah Rukh was busy promoting his movie. He cares for no one. And stop identifying yourself with your religion. That is the main problem with all muslim countries. They cant look beyond their noses and hence all these countries are in big trouble.

And look at india. It supports, promotes goodwill. It encourages business’ and it is the darling of foreign investors. Whereas Pak produces very little, imports everything begs from USA and then curses one and all. It is also incidentally the producer of the largest no. of terrorist organisations operating from its soil.

It is high time muslims all over the world learnt to live in harmony with all its neighbours irrespective of the beliefs.

Please read the below articles written by muslims living in Pakistan on religious intolerence.

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn -content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/edit orial/19-culture-of-intolerance-050-hh-1 2

http://www.zcommunications.org/why-faisa l-shahzad-bombed-times-square-by-pervez- hoodbhoy

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn -content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/colu mnists/19-huma-yusuf-a-murderous-mindset -050-hh-11

Posted by seema | Report as abusive
 

seema i dont want this blog to turn into a chat room, but your tales are so funny that one cant ignore to reply.
Do you want to hide facts by electing the heads from minority. It does not certify you to kill minorities by electing from them to cheat the world or hide the true face of hindu fanatics living breeding your society.
When shah rukh agenda was known then why hindu fanatics were like fire balls.
Comparing minorities in India and Pakistan ….. Are you kidding me…..

Posted by Khan | Report as abusive
 

khan – first a bit on my status. I am a practicing muslim and a practicing lawyer living in Mumbai, india and have some family in Pakistan like so many muslims living in india. First and foremost India is a secular country by law. It does not differentiate on the basis of color, caste, creed, age, sex etc. On this count India definitely scores over Pakistan. Pakistan we all know is an Islamic country and hence by law biases are built into the system. We have practically seen this with the Ahmadi community in Pakistan. Those links given by Seema are very interesting and a must read. In India All communities even foreigners have a fair chance to trial and justice can be delayed but not denied.

Besides you are making out as if minorities are slaughtered in every part on India. The truth is far removed. If at all India has all but lost Kashmir to the Muslim majority(with support from Pakistani militants). And that is a personal loss to me as we Indians cant travel so freely to Kasmhir as we would have liked to.

Secondly I am assuming you are from Pakistan and the propaganda machinery against India, USA, is working overtime there and in several other muslim countries. Muslims in India and for that matter in most secular countries are treated far better than minorities in Islamic countries. Indias biggest corporate house is the TATAs, a parsi community. The richest man is Azim Premji a muslim. Our biggest stars are Shah Rukh, Salman and Aamir. A R Rahman is a muslim and the biggest musician. Sikhs have a fair presentation in our armed forces. Jains are the richest community in the country. Christians are found everywhere and one never hears that they face problems. In fact Goa has christians as majority and it is the biggest tourist attraction in the country. Buddhists are found all over the east. Muslims have a very large presentation in the parliament as well as the cabinet. India is the only country which subsidises pilgrimage to Mecca. So on and so forth. But to cut a long story short, muslims or any community are not, by any stretch of imagination, discriminated against

BJP has been in power at the centre for 5 years out of a total of 60 odd yrs of freedom. There were no untoward acts during their reign. The breaking of the Babri Masjid was an act for which the BJP is paying a heavy price and it was a act which had the full support of the congress party under the leadership of Mr. Rao – so it is difficult to say which is the worst of the two. Such an act is not possible without the tacit support of the ruling power. The congress party was responsible for an even greater act of murder when it targetted the sikh community after Indira Gandhi’s assasination. But the law is catching up on both of them.

Now coming to Gujarat. Hindus were targetted by a section of the Muslim population by burning some bogies of a train full of hindu pilgrimages. this is a fact recognised even by the commission probing this incident. What followed was carnage and the entire state burnt and the muslims were at the receiving end this time. What goes round comes around. Hopefully all involved get punished.

Pakistanis should not think of themselves as guardians of all things Islamic. We in India can take care of ourselves. There is an excellent youtube link in this respect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP9JCusfj e0

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Asif, I am not concerned that you are a muslim or pretending to be muslim. My sole purpose to discuss whatever we have to in a healthy way …. but you chaps turned everything on Pakistan and Muslims in every blog in the first place. I am happy to know that you dont have discriminatory issues in your society even if you mention the caste system by mistake. But i am very sorry that you being a Muslim dont know about the rights of minorities in Islam. Your so called secularism doesnt hold water when discriminations laid in your foundations. Now if you being a lawyer and a muslim, cant grasp the law regarding Ahmadi’s then i can feel sorry for your intentinal ignorance. If Ahmadi’s pushed out from the sphere of Islam doesnt mean that they are out of rights of the state.
As i belong to Tribal area which is regarded as the most conservative Pashtoon area, inhabiting large community of Sikhs, where they have fair businesses. Likewise you can find Hindus in every province and they live in peace and prosperity. Minorities have never been stopped to prgress or prospers if they have the talent to move. Those you can find in our sports, politics, educations and the list goes …
Its very sad to recollect many incidents occoured in our subcontinent. It ranges from Kashmir to Gujrat, from Orrisa to Golden temple, and i will be considered biased if i mention Samjhota Express.
In the last its not my mood to convey weaknesses just as a tool to propagate express my hatred but i know the role of criticism playing in the society, to bring positive changes.
I am glad that many Muslims in India hold reputable and noble positions. I know a little about Azim Premji and his charitable role in the society. I wish we have such big names from our minorities, to contribute in our social uplift.

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khan please check your facts before you write anything. At the time of partition the hindus were close to 23%. in less than 60 yrs. it has fallen to less than 2%. Can you explain that?
Please check this site (If it has not already been banned by your govt). Maybe they will say even this site is against Islam

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_right s_in_Pakistan

Pakistanis are trained to look towards india as its enemy, hence this anger by you’ll to all things indian. Dont forget presently Pakistan is in the eye of the storm and not india. Pakistan has been warned of severe consequences if any terrorist activity in US be traced back to Pakistan. So good luck to you.

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The truth is in most islamic countries they view every non muslim as a kafir and they can never develop any respect for them. This is ingrained in their psyche. The moment they learn to respect other religions, beliefs, systems they will earn the respect of the world. Intimaidation, threats, bullying and terrorizing will only increase the hatred. There is a brilliant poem by sting which goes :

If blood will flow when flesh and steel are one
Drying in the colour of the evening sun
Tomorrow’s rain will wash the stains away
But something in our minds will always stay
Perhaps this final act was meant
To clinch a lifetime’s argument
That nothing comes from violence and nothing ever could
For all those born beneath an angry star
Lest we forget how fragile we are

Posted by seema | Report as abusive
 

Khan thanks for replying. Now i understand your ignorance about all things indian. Coming from the tribal belt i dont expect much. But i request you to come to india and spend a few years to experience freedom. They is nothing left to discuss you are on a completely different world.

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Khan – since you have deep knowledge of all the killings happening in india from orissa to whererever. Just to add to your knowledge the following terrorist activities that took place in India and you have conveniently forgotten.
26/11, 7/11, parliament bombing, Kandahar kidnappings, Poona blast, Bangalore blast and guess what they are all linked to Jihadi terrorists.

Posted by seema | Report as abusive
 

rajesh, Personally i respect every religion…. and consider it as an obligation. Its your thinking if you prpagate against Islam or religion unnecessary which shows your lack of mental breed. And trust me i dont get angry….. and my indian colleagues consider me a very cool guy…. May be they are subordinate thats why. Anywayz you people entitled to your views and me to my own…. what can i do more if i cant put you on the right way…lol
Well regarding American threat… you dont take it to your heart man.. that we will handle with utmost care…you dont need to be worry about. Trust me.
have a cool day

Posted by Khan | Report as abusive
 

seema jee, in islam kafir means non believer … straight away as non muslim. Its same as if you just say non Hindu, who dont follow your scriptures. So kafir is not a calling name, same as atheist is not. And trust me non muslim living from centuries, like in egypt, syria, lebanon , iran, pakistan etc. So your perception fails. If some people put the issue to get a lucrative package as a passport then what can you and me do.
seema jee thanks for the poem you shared, and copied it as may someday i will paste it back to you for your consideration. By the way i love poems and lyrics, and i do write them but those are about love, and have the potential to make people cry, coz i am very dil jala too.

Regarding bombings in your country and in my country and above all financing of terrorists from your counselates, are very tragic happenings our countries. We should have to see the root causes one day, before we caught in a doomsday.

Have a good day with whole of your expressions in poetic way.

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Khan thanks for replying. Now i understand your ignorance about all things indian. Coming from the tribal belt i dont expect much.

asif, i was not expecting atleast from a lawyer, to discriminate me on basis of my origin or locality. Now i fully grasped that how the basic teaching corrupt mind even if it get educated. My post were in very friendly and positive manners, then my belonging to certain locality made you angry? Are you true to your profession or with teaching of law, which always talking about rights, duty, obligations etc while putting aside the ethnicity, color, race, tribes etc. Are you assuming yourself superior than us? If you say yes then care to elaborate, how?

Posted by Khan | Report as abusive
 

“Union of Afgahnistan and Pakistan.”

The only solution to the present problem of instability in Afghanistan and Pakistan is in the Union of these two countries based on principles of Democracy and Federalism.
In history, Durani Empire was composed of all the areas in which today’s Pakistan and Afghanistan are located, and during the Mughal Empire together they were a single country. In the initial period of the British Empire, they were also the same country.
Later, some forces that had vested interests kept a distance between these lands. Consequently, border areas between these two countries became hiding places for criminals of both countries, thieves of automobiles and other stolen goods. They are stored in this region. This large uncontrollable area is a base for many evils.
Here narcotics are grown; addiction is destroying the youth and humanity. Because the region is not developed and poverty is rampant, people are attracted to extremism and militancy.
Union of both countries will make the single government more responsible in stabilizing this region and in satisfying the nationalistic pride of its inhabitants. People will be able to serve humanity as other large nations of the world do. Otherwise, this region will always remain a nuisance for the world. It destroyed Soviet Union. It may also take down the western world, which will be a great blow to the development of Science and Technology, especially Medical science.
Advantages to the world:
Control of terrorism:
Instability in this region is causing great damage to humanity. Soldiers of many countries are sacrificing their lives just to eliminate terrorists from these countries. In the presence of a unified government, it will be easier to control terrorists.
Control of extremism:
As a unified nation composed of multiethnic groups such as the Punjabis, Sindhis, Baluchis, Pashtuns, Urdu speakers, Tajiks, Persians and Hazaras, and as a multisectarian society such as Sunni and Shiites, it will become impossible for any ethnic group or religious sect to find any future in extremism.
Stabilization of the region:
Although it is now that the problems of this region have gained attention, it has suffered from instability for a long time. People here are finding no hope, no future for themselves, partly because of interference from foreign countries, such as the British Empire, Soviet Union, USA, China and India. When they were unified under the Durani Empire, the region was stable. The same was the case during the Mughal Empire.
There are three main groups in Asia, i.e. the Chinese, Hindus and Muslims. Chinese and Hindus are satisfied with their states of China and India. The Muslim population in Asia is greater than the Chinese and Hindus combined. However, having no comparable state of their own they experience the stress of inferiority. That element too is causing instability and irritation amongst common Muslims. By creating a unified state of Pakistan and Afghanistan, a sense of satisfaction, pride and respect of having a national state will be achieved. That might lead to normalization of relations with the rest of the world and stability.
Solution to economic problems
At present, both countries are burdens on others, and pose barriers in exploring the resources of Central Asia by the world. After stabilization, it will be useful not only for Central Asia and for the World, but also for the new unified nation itself.
Advantages to Pakistan:
It was the vision of Quaid-e-Azam, the Founder of Pakistan, to unify the regions of West Pakistan, Afghanistan, East Pakistan, Malaysia and Indonesia. That probably needs time. It took many centuries for Europeans to realize that they shared a common goal.
• By unification with Afghanistan, areas, which are included in Pakistan, will stabilize, and migration of people from disturbed areas will stop.
• Smuggling of weapons across the borders will end, and Law and Order will be established.
• Similarly, illicit drug trade will be minimized.
• Whole areas of Pukhtoons (Pashtuns) speaking population will unify, and that will help the development of culture and language of that group which is now divided in two nations.
• Expenses for Security measures on the borders will be minimal. The resultant balance can be used for the welfare of people.
• Interference of other nations in this region will subside.
• Due to unique historical importance for Buddhists and Hindus, tourism industry will flourish and business activity in the region will increase.
Advantages to Afghanistan:
• Through unification, Afghanistan will cease to be a land locked country. The union will promote freedom of people of Afghanistan to travel and engage in economic activity,
• Extremism and terrorism will come to and end, as the people will become more engaged and involved in adjusting themselves in the new union. Utilization of raw products of Afghanistan will increase.
• Security and military expenses will minimize.
• Doors to Pakistan will open to Afghanis who look for jobs in Pakistan.
• Shortage of food products in Afghanistan will decrease and it will increase the utilization of raw products of Afghanistan.
• Linking Central Asia via Afghanistan to the rest of the world will generate extraordinary development.
Based on above observations, suggestions and predictions, it is clear that unification of Pakistan and Afghanistan will be fruitful for everyone in the region and for the world at large.
Mr. M. Akram Khan Niazi can be reached at akrumniazi@hotmail.com
POSTED 5 MONTHS AGO ON 19 OCT 2009 10:20 #

Posted by M.AKRAM NIAZI | Report as abusive
 

I thought the subject was “saving Afghanistan from its neighbours”. I would be very much interested to know your views without the mention of the religion. People normaly inherent their religion from their parents, very fewer people convert from one religion to another. Most people are proud of their religion since it is the religion of their ancestors. There are few exception, eg. the former UK foreign minister says that he is not a jew, though his parents and grandparents are. He is very liberal and claims to be an atheist. What is wrong with that. Though shall not kill is the commandment of God almighty and the three religions, namely Jewish, christianity and Islam has this commandment in their scriptures. Now how many Govts. are following this commandment. It is time that the non-muslims blame the muslims for the wrong which is being committed in the world. Religion is peace, but people are sinners.
have a nice day.
Rex Minor

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PS, correction computer. IT IS TIME THAT NON_MUSLIMS DO NOT REPEAT DO NOT BLAME MUSLIMS FOR THE WRONGS BEING COMMITED IN THE WORLD.
Rex Minor

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PS CORRECTION COMPUTER
IT IS TIME THAT THE NON MUSLIMS DO NOT BLAME;REPEAT DO NOT BLAME THE MUSLIMS FOR THE WRONG WHICH IS BEING COMMITED IN THE WORLD: THANK YOU:

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@M Akram Niazi,
Your idea is not bad, if this is limited to the Pashtoon territory of today’s Pakistan joins the federation of Afghanista. Let me try to translate the wise saying of a German politician,”what belongs togethe can grow grow together”. The Pashtoons on both sides of the durand line are form of a single nation with a common language, culture and traditions.
Rex minor

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@Rex minor,

Well Mr. Niazi idea is touching and evolutionary in nature.In the last there will be individualism rather than tribalism, which will further lead the humanity to development. In today case its hard for the Pakhtoons who live in Pakistan, to give up the affiliation with the country, they had joined on their own will. They have their businesses interests, interactions with other ethnicities, and a proportionate bigger role in the country affairs. On the other hand, Afghan Pakhtoons will be more beneficials by uification, regarding their access to job market, resource and human utilizations, and goodbye to landlock term for their land.

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@ Khan
The Pakhtoons had not only joined Pakistan on their own will but without them there would not have been a Pakistan. The non Pakhtoons did not gain majority in other provinces for the Pakistan concept.
History tells us that the agreement made between All India Congress and the muslim league was not followed in words or spirit. This was a fatal mistake.
Today the military of the colonial structure is operating in the land vacated by the Brits. and persecuting in a shabby manner the so called citizens of India and Pakistan. In my view, the Pakistan military intrusion into the holy land of Swat and Waziristan is a criminal enterprise organised by the USA military, to suppress the very people who defended the land after the partition, when the rag tag Pakistan military were not in a position to do so. In my view the honeymoon period for the Pakhtoons is now over and they need to come out of their bunkers to spread across the sub-continent for they can no longer feel safe or protect their families under the previous arrangements with the neighbourhood. The Pakhtoons habitants living in the triangular shaped territory of approximately 250,000 sq. miles starting from Dir in the north down to Quetta, Chaman and Qandhar extending upto Herat, number more than sixty million. The divide of this Nation having a common language base, traditions and culture, orchestrated by the Colonialists on deceit and later maintained by the Pakistani leaders of Pukhtoon stock, can no longer be sustained. The Pukhtoons must break down the land locked land and open the sea routes and this would be realized when the Pakhtoons on both sides of the so called Durand line, unite as a single nation. They do not need to carry the bag of worms of the current Pakistan with them. Their destiny was, and even today, to develop their own territory, its inhabitants and the business enterprise on their own. They have no quarrel with the non-muslims, nor with India per say. They are a resilient people, used as a child to hard work and have never relied on charites and give away of others.
I see a period of over fifty years duration for this vision to become the reality. I do not see any future for the country now called Pakistan, which has not been in a position to reconcile with the citizens and to undertake structural changes and throw away the yolk of slavery. Even the previous Indian born military
chief Mr Musharaf did not manage to reconcile with India and instead even extended the aggressive stance towards the warriors of the Waziri land.
Rex Minor

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@Rex Minor
Its impractical, while it can go other way round, mentioned by Mr.Niazi

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@Khan
Sir,Wars are fought on battle grounds and not on paper. We are past this time. This philosaphy of the “powerful wins” is accepted by the Pakhtoons. The current Pakistan military have exposed their weakness and the Pakhtoons do not normaly show mercy for the weaker enemy. Now is not the time for a dialogue and talks to ease the aggressors withdrawl. In my observation, history is taking a turn and the world order we know today is likely to change right across the world starting from Turkey to Iran and beyond. We are in difficult times all over and should be anxious to see the new horizon. The new millennium is unlikely to allow the warrior nation of Pakhtoons to once again go to sleep for a very long period and to only react against the intruder once he is knocking on the door. No Sir, I have studied and studied History and there is no chance of complacency for the Pakhtoons again. You wait till they sort out the mess in Afghanistan and bring back the stability which they have been deprived of not because of their internal strifes but to the invasion and occupation of their land by the USA and its allies. In the near future no Govt. in Afhanistan and Pakistan is likely to survive without the approval of Pakhtoons! This is the reality and not the fairy tale propsal of uniting all muslims of the world.
Mr Niazi is going to get bigged down on the definition of a muslim, in Pakistan they are fighting among themself tooth and nail to find some sort of rationale for their being a country in the first place.
A good day Sir!!

Rex Minor

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@Rex Minor,
Sir it has nothing to do with Islam, its viable on basis of socio-economic harmony.
Well wrorry, your prophecy is too dangerous and will inhaliate millions …. llllooollllzzzzz

Have a nice day Sir,

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@ Khan
You must be a very kind person. By intruding into the independent Pakhtoon territory,the pakistan military has broken the agreement with the tribal chiefs. The Pakhtoons are now free of the restrictions stipulated in the agreement and are very likely to carry out the deadly operations in the heartland of Pakistan. This is not a prophecy and should have been considered by the Pakistan civilian and military brains. As much as we like to have peace in the world, there are forces who have always come out to dominate others simply to resolve their domestic misery and shortcomings. Romans did that and then the Germans reinvigorated their economy by unleashing a Blitz krieg and now the USA whose system is no longer sustainable. The entire western world is living on borrowed money and for how long you imagine that they can survive on borrowed money? Besides the Pakhtoons are unlikely to make alliances with a failed state.
Have a nice day, Sir.
Rex Minor

Rex Minor

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@Rex Minor,
Well, you are true that Army has deployed in tribal area which was once free land under Pakistan’s federation with the FCR and local affairs run through tribal traditions. But now it has happened because of militancy, which resulted in loss of livese of soldiers and civilians as well. I hope when things around settled, whole setup will be resumed revived loyalty with the state. It will be blessing for us that our brothers on the other side of border remain prosper and richer in every aspect.

Have a nice day, Sir!

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