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	<title>Comments on: In Pakistan&#8217;s Gwadar port, Chinese whispers grow</title>
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		<title>By: pakistan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/afghanistan/2011/05/26/in-pakistans-gwadar-port-chinese-whispers-grow/comment-page-1/#comment-6401</link>
		<dc:creator>pakistan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@NWOrdaaa
Chinese have been constructing replica of beautiful European cites. I guess soon they are going to embark on constructing picteresque cities if the USA including Kentucky, not Detroit, LA and Frisko but not harlem or phoenix. This would allow the good Americans to migrate to China when the USA constant conflict with the rivers get worst and the Pacific Ocean is no longer pacific and explodes to meet the Atlantic. The American people are unlikely to feel happy living on the aircraft carriers or even the moon. 



Rex Minor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@NWOrdaaa<br />
Chinese have been constructing replica of beautiful European cites. I guess soon they are going to embark on constructing picteresque cities if the USA including Kentucky, not Detroit, LA and Frisko but not harlem or phoenix. This would allow the good Americans to migrate to China when the USA constant conflict with the rivers get worst and the Pacific Ocean is no longer pacific and explodes to meet the Atlantic. The American people are unlikely to feel happy living on the aircraft carriers or even the moon. </p>
<p>Rex Minor</p>
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		<title>By: NueWurldOrdaa</title>
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		<dc:creator>NueWurldOrdaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 01:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it sounds like the Pakistani official has spoken too soon, or spoken aloud about something China wanted to keep secret...

Some good comments above, but although it&#039;s the first time I&#039;ve seen &quot;pakistan&quot; (Rex Minor) post, it seems obvious he&#039;s a Chinese person pretending to be someone else. A tactic used by these Chinese Govt stooges all over the world. Here in China they they&#039;re called the &quot;50 cent gang&quot; by more sophisticated Chinese who&#039;re sick of their corrupt Chinese Govt.

I think China is (and will continue to be) happy to project power when they have it. Their belligerence to their neighbours in recent years shows that the chip on their shoulders (based on &#039;wrongs&#039; done to them 100 years ago!!!) isn&#039;t getting any smaller. Now they&#039;re building a blue water navy, and I don&#039;t think they be keeping it on their coast for long. They like to show off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it sounds like the Pakistani official has spoken too soon, or spoken aloud about something China wanted to keep secret&#8230;</p>
<p>Some good comments above, but although it&#8217;s the first time I&#8217;ve seen &#8220;pakistan&#8221; (Rex Minor) post, it seems obvious he&#8217;s a Chinese person pretending to be someone else. A tactic used by these Chinese Govt stooges all over the world. Here in China they they&#8217;re called the &#8220;50 cent gang&#8221; by more sophisticated Chinese who&#8217;re sick of their corrupt Chinese Govt.</p>
<p>I think China is (and will continue to be) happy to project power when they have it. Their belligerence to their neighbours in recent years shows that the chip on their shoulders (based on &#8216;wrongs&#8217; done to them 100 years ago!!!) isn&#8217;t getting any smaller. Now they&#8217;re building a blue water navy, and I don&#8217;t think they be keeping it on their coast for long. They like to show off.</p>
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		<title>By: DaraIndia</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaraIndia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 05:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I understood what the local jester is implying, or trying to get across I might have thought of rebutting. As usual though, it is way off on a tangent on the issues actually mentioned - chalk and cheese. Wish to retain my sanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I understood what the local jester is implying, or trying to get across I might have thought of rebutting. As usual though, it is way off on a tangent on the issues actually mentioned &#8211; chalk and cheese. Wish to retain my sanity.</p>
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		<title>By: netizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>netizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 15:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many degrees of separation


By M.J. Akbar

http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/29/many-degrees-of-separation.html

Gilani topped off a four-day visit to China with a claim that will surely enter the history books. Pakistan and China, he said, were “like one nation and two countries”. :-)

We shall not discuss the fine distinction between nation and country, except to note that the prime minister could have easily interchanged the terms without significant loss of meaning in his personal political dictionary. For mere outsiders, a question is inescapable: has Pakistan repositioned itself as the new Hong Kong? :-)

Beijing has not let us know whether it has accepted this generous offer by the world’s most powerful Islamic republic to become an associate member of the world’s most important atheist state.

Such ends could easily include the ‘liberation’ of China’s sole Muslim-majority province, Xinjiang, from Beijing. If evidence being currently given in the Headley trial in Chicago is to be believed, many of these ‘jihadis’ have been nurtured by intelligence operatives in the Pakistan military who thought that such volatile double and triple games would never backfire.

History tells us that China is sophisticated enough to manoeuvre through nuanced degrees of separation or proximity.

China’s policy towards lands south of the Himalayas is unlikely to be either open-ended or inflexible. Tactically, it will play with options. But its strategy will be guided by China’s security interests, not Pakistan’s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many degrees of separation</p>
<p>By M.J. Akbar</p>
<p><a href='http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/29/many-degrees-of-separation.html'>http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/29/many-degr ees-of-separation.html</a></p>
<p>Gilani topped off a four-day visit to China with a claim that will surely enter the history books. Pakistan and China, he said, were “like one nation and two countries”. <img src='http://blogs.reuters.com/afghanistan/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>We shall not discuss the fine distinction between nation and country, except to note that the prime minister could have easily interchanged the terms without significant loss of meaning in his personal political dictionary. For mere outsiders, a question is inescapable: has Pakistan repositioned itself as the new Hong Kong? <img src='http://blogs.reuters.com/afghanistan/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Beijing has not let us know whether it has accepted this generous offer by the world’s most powerful Islamic republic to become an associate member of the world’s most important atheist state.</p>
<p>Such ends could easily include the ‘liberation’ of China’s sole Muslim-majority province, Xinjiang, from Beijing. If evidence being currently given in the Headley trial in Chicago is to be believed, many of these ‘jihadis’ have been nurtured by intelligence operatives in the Pakistan military who thought that such volatile double and triple games would never backfire.</p>
<p>History tells us that China is sophisticated enough to manoeuvre through nuanced degrees of separation or proximity.</p>
<p>China’s policy towards lands south of the Himalayas is unlikely to be either open-ended or inflexible. Tactically, it will play with options. But its strategy will be guided by China’s security interests, not Pakistan’s.</p>
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		<title>By: pakistan</title>
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		<dc:creator>pakistan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 13:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I thought for a while that the old hog was now worried about the Indian social system and uncertainty of future pension payments. High blood pressure is not healthy for a any pensioner.

No one that I know claims to have knowledge of India or Pakistan, the lands of future and leave it to Indians and Pakistanis to confirm or deny the allegations of human abuse. To be honest, however, it is sickening to read from Indians against Pakistan on matters which are not related to the article!

Rex Minor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I thought for a while that the old hog was now worried about the Indian social system and uncertainty of future pension payments. High blood pressure is not healthy for a any pensioner.</p>
<p>No one that I know claims to have knowledge of India or Pakistan, the lands of future and leave it to Indians and Pakistanis to confirm or deny the allegations of human abuse. To be honest, however, it is sickening to read from Indians against Pakistan on matters which are not related to the article!</p>
<p>Rex Minor</p>
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		<title>By: DaraIndia</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaraIndia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 11:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All about learning history from someone who never heard, and in fact &#039;claims&#039; first read here about the genocide in East Pakistan only this year. Also &#039;claims&#039; in the last few months, even after being given references and site addresses, has still not been able to locate nor heard of the Hamood-ur-Rehman Commission and its report. 

Learn at your own peril

Yet knows half baked about Indian crimes against slaves, women, Sikhs, Kashmiris, other Indians etc etc etc  just name it, he knows it all! But Bangla Desh genocide, yikes!!! A self proclaimed pseudo German expert on India - Pakistan - Afghanistan who wonders what Indians are doing here discussing Pakistan. Only he as a self proclaimed German has a special licence to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All about learning history from someone who never heard, and in fact &#8216;claims&#8217; first read here about the genocide in East Pakistan only this year. Also &#8216;claims&#8217; in the last few months, even after being given references and site addresses, has still not been able to locate nor heard of the Hamood-ur-Rehman Commission and its report. </p>
<p>Learn at your own peril</p>
<p>Yet knows half baked about Indian crimes against slaves, women, Sikhs, Kashmiris, other Indians etc etc etc  just name it, he knows it all! But Bangla Desh genocide, yikes!!! A self proclaimed pseudo German expert on India &#8211; Pakistan &#8211; Afghanistan who wonders what Indians are doing here discussing Pakistan. Only he as a self proclaimed German has a special licence to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: pakistan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/afghanistan/2011/05/26/in-pakistans-gwadar-port-chinese-whispers-grow/comment-page-1/#comment-6303</link>
		<dc:creator>pakistan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 09:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kolea
Now you are talking turkey, Resource was what Churchil was looking for from the USA, not brave soldiers for combat.

Roosevelt sent the GI&#039;s for combat in order to provide resources for the war. Pearl harbour accelrated American participation.
India should never forget that it was the allied Govts. which demanded from Britain to end the occupation of India once the war is over. 
Now the amateur from australia can also take a lesson of hstory.
History also tells us that like Romans and the colonialists the fall of the USA is in progress. china is the emerging Super Power, not in terms of economics or weaponry only. 

rex Minor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kolea<br />
Now you are talking turkey, Resource was what Churchil was looking for from the USA, not brave soldiers for combat.</p>
<p>Roosevelt sent the GI&#8217;s for combat in order to provide resources for the war. Pearl harbour accelrated American participation.<br />
India should never forget that it was the allied Govts. which demanded from Britain to end the occupation of India once the war is over.<br />
Now the amateur from australia can also take a lesson of hstory.<br />
History also tells us that like Romans and the colonialists the fall of the USA is in progress. china is the emerging Super Power, not in terms of economics or weaponry only. </p>
<p>rex Minor</p>
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		<title>By: kolea</title>
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		<dc:creator>kolea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 08:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warning appreciated and heeded. India is unique; been there so may sound biased. No insult intended at all on WW2 as some other countries suffered enormous casualties civilian and military, like the former USSR: 26M civilians, 13M military, China and Poland. The US contribution of superior hardware, technology, manufacturing, quantity of weapons, supplies, logistics, and men (400+K fatalities) were decisive. Air superiority was achieved with thousands of P-51, P-47, P-38, F6F, F4U, B-17, B-24 and B-29. Hiroshima and Nagasaki ended the Pacific War.  The US lost 100,000 men there. Russians defeated the Germans in the east, Allies in the west. Could the Allies have done it without American participation?  Not in my opinion. Pearl Harbor was a blessing to the British with their backs to the wall. The British, Russians, Chinese, French and other Allies were supplied with war material 1941-45 by the Lend Lease Act.  America has never taken sole credit for the Axis defeat. But if you were being mauled by a grizzly and a hunter came by and shot it dead, would you give the hunter credit or say you might have won with your knife given more time?  Regarding &quot;nuclear dementia&quot;, refugee physicists Szilard and Einstein knew the Nazis were working on nuclear fission with eminent scientists (which included Nobel laureate Werner Heisenberg) and persuaded FDR to start the Manhattan Project. If Germany had not been defeated in 1945, mushroom clouds might have appeared over London and Moscow soon thereafter. Deng Xiaoping&#039;s quote: &quot;It doesn&#039;t matter if it&#039;s a black cat or a white cat. If it catches mice, it&#039;s a good cat&quot; referring to economic models for China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warning appreciated and heeded. India is unique; been there so may sound biased. No insult intended at all on WW2 as some other countries suffered enormous casualties civilian and military, like the former USSR: 26M civilians, 13M military, China and Poland. The US contribution of superior hardware, technology, manufacturing, quantity of weapons, supplies, logistics, and men (400+K fatalities) were decisive. Air superiority was achieved with thousands of P-51, P-47, P-38, F6F, F4U, B-17, B-24 and B-29. Hiroshima and Nagasaki ended the Pacific War.  The US lost 100,000 men there. Russians defeated the Germans in the east, Allies in the west. Could the Allies have done it without American participation?  Not in my opinion. Pearl Harbor was a blessing to the British with their backs to the wall. The British, Russians, Chinese, French and other Allies were supplied with war material 1941-45 by the Lend Lease Act.  America has never taken sole credit for the Axis defeat. But if you were being mauled by a grizzly and a hunter came by and shot it dead, would you give the hunter credit or say you might have won with your knife given more time?  Regarding &#8220;nuclear dementia&#8221;, refugee physicists Szilard and Einstein knew the Nazis were working on nuclear fission with eminent scientists (which included Nobel laureate Werner Heisenberg) and persuaded FDR to start the Manhattan Project. If Germany had not been defeated in 1945, mushroom clouds might have appeared over London and Moscow soon thereafter. Deng Xiaoping&#8217;s quote: &#8220;It doesn&#8217;t matter if it&#8217;s a black cat or a white cat. If it catches mice, it&#8217;s a good cat&#8221; referring to economic models for China.</p>
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		<title>By: pakistan</title>
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		<dc:creator>pakistan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 08:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ps
careful, sanjeev Miglani does not allow any crap comments on his article from Indians or non indians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ps<br />
careful, sanjeev Miglani does not allow any crap comments on his article from Indians or non indians.</p>
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		<title>By: pakistan</title>
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		<dc:creator>pakistan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 08:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kolea,
I am not the only one, there are also your country men from the orange brigade who have discovered that you belong to a junior club. Indians are all over the planet8every sixth person), not only in Australia where the Aussies do not wish to call prasadgo an Aussie, and in Germany too, where a prominent provincial premier declared to his counrymen , Kinder statt Inder, meaning chidren instead of allowing Indian IT specialists to enter Germany.

Rex minor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kolea,<br />
I am not the only one, there are also your country men from the orange brigade who have discovered that you belong to a junior club. Indians are all over the planet8every sixth person), not only in Australia where the Aussies do not wish to call prasadgo an Aussie, and in Germany too, where a prominent provincial premier declared to his counrymen , Kinder statt Inder, meaning chidren instead of allowing Indian IT specialists to enter Germany.</p>
<p>Rex minor</p>
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