Afghan Journal
Lifting the veil on conflict, culture and politics
“Broken Afghanistan” hits back at Britain
New British Defence Secretary Liam Fox’s remarks describing Afghanistan as a broken 13th-century country have predictably touched off a firestorm of criticism both at home and in Afghanistan. For a moment, though, if you drove around Kabul’s dusty hillsides dotted with dirt-poor, crumbling dwellings and saw the war-ravaged capital’s ruins, you could forgive Fox for thinking he was in a medieval-era country.
Indeed the criticism against him in Afghanistan is not so much about it being a broken country, but that who exactly is responsible. Mandegar, a local newspaper, kicked off its reaction with the headline : “Our 13th century society is the result of your colonialism.” It reminds readers about the British wars in Afghanistan and how each time Afghans succeeded in driving them out of the country. “We don’t need Britain in Afghanistan,” the Arman e-Melli daily said.
Referring to Fox’s remarks that troops were not in Afghanistan to promote education, but rather to defend British streets, the newspaper said Afghans were very aware that the British involvement in south Asia throughout history was aimed at protecting its interests, often at great cost to the countries in the region. It was a pity that Afghans were fighting each other, otherwise they would have lifted the country out of the “13th century”, the newspaper said.
Fox’s characterisation of Afghanistan was raised at a meeting with Afghan President Hamid Karzai at the weekend, the Times said. It quoted an Afghan source as saying that the remarks showed Britain to be a “colonialist, orientalist and racist country.” In his defence, Fox’s office has pointed to similar remarks made by Karzai in the past about the Taliban leaving behind a 13th or 14th century country.
Some people are saying it’s Britain that’s broken and is looking for a reason to leave Afghanistan. British soldiers are horribly over-extended, taking an ever higher number of casualties and the country can hardly afford the financial costs of keeping them there indefinitely, the Independent wrote. On Monday, the British Defence Ministry announced that the army’s top bomb disposal officer had resigned , a move which the Sun newspaper said was prompted by concerns that a shortage of trained bomb disposal experts was putting troops in Afghanistan under strain.
The price of failure in Afghanistan
On the eve of Hamid Karzai’s inauguration as Afghanistan’s president, the obvious question to ask is what happens if he, or more crucially his Western backers, fail to turn back a resurgent Taliban the second time around.
Steve Coll, journalist and president of the New America Foundation, sets out four consequences of failure in Afghanistan in a blog in The New Yorker, which speak to those especially in America who question its involvement in the first place in this far-off “graveyard of empires.”
A new ABC/Washington Post poll says 52 percent of Americans don’t believe the war is worth the costs.
Coll says:
1) If the world were to give up on Afghanistan and the Taliban were to return to power, it would mean a re-run of the Civil War in the 90s, but this time on “steroids”. It is inconceivable that the Taliban could triumph in the country completely and provide a regime (however perverse) of stability and so you could have a rump Afghan government dominated by ethnic Tajiks and Uzbeks find arms and money from India, Iran, and perhaps Russia, Europe and the United States. This would likely produce a long-running civil war between northern, Tajik-dominated ethnic militias and the Pashtun-dominated Taliban.
2) Success in Afghanistan would give momentum for a Taliban revolution in Pakistan. If the Quetta Shura regained power in Kandahar or Kabul, it would undoubtedly interpret its triumph as a ticket to further ambition in Pakistan. The Pakistani Taliban would likely be energized, armed and financed by the Afghan Taliban as they pursue their own revolutionary ambitions in Islamabad.
3) Increased Islamist Violence Against India : The probable knock-on effect of a second Taliban revolution Afghanistan would be to increase the likelihood of irregular Islamist attacks from Pakistan against Indian targets as they see to extend their influence. In time, democratic Indian governments would be pressed by their electorates to respond with military force, and the world would then have to deal with a fourth Indian-Pakistan war, this time both nations nuclear-armed.
Let us talk some basic facts;
.Foreign troops have no longer any business to remain in afghanistan.
.To name a group of people or tribes in Afghanistan “Talabans” is a misquote and intended only to confuse the people of the world. The so called Talabans are Pushtoons!! George W. gave them other names and the clintonians under hillary clinton calls them good talabans and bad talabans. The Us President is trying his best not to repeat names used by the previous administration.
.NO govt. in kabul has ever been able to function without the approval of Pushtoon tribal chiefs. The Pushtoons were not subjected to compulsary military service, whereas other ethnic groups were.
.The invasion of Aghanistan by the US in collaboration with the northern alliance,i.e. the non-pusthoon groups was a deliberate attempt to disturb the balance of power which existed among various ethnic groups before the Soviets intrusion. The situation today is somewhat similar to that in Lebanon.
. The Pushtoons have a very straightforward code which determines their fate in battles. To conquer them one must defeat them. No other country have fought more battles with them than the Brits. Even Winston Churchil encountered these people during his military life and was the only survivor from his platoon.Their history shows that they have always been victorious against invaders, who despite the superior equipment lacked the fighting quality and spirit among their soldiers. They are born free and are passionately in love with their independence.
. I am distressed to see that young lads of even 18 years age in the British army are being sent to Afghanistan where the old colonial power suffered the heaviest casuaties in their colonial times. It would seem that the prime minister Gordon Brown is most likely not aware of aware of this piece of history.
. I believe that the US and the Nato armies should better withdraw from Afghanistan and obtain solid assurances from the Afghan Govt. that they will not allow in the future any facilities or training basis to foreigners or terrorists groups.
from UK News:
Drawing the line against the Taliban
Fight them there or fight them here?
Former Foreign Office minister Kim Howells poses the question in the Guardian in a piece made grimly relevant by Wednesday's shooting dead of five British soldiers by an Afghan policeman.
Howells says troops should be brought back from Afghanistan and that the billions of pounds saved should be used to beef up homeland security in Britain -- drawing the front line against al Qaeda around the UK rather than thousands of miles away in Helmand province.
He accepts that such an approach would result in "more intrusive surveillance in certain communities," a tacit acknowledgment that Britain's Muslims would be subject to greater scrutiny by police and intelligence services.
His "Fortress Britain" theory takes into account indications that a growing number of experts feel the war against the Al Qaeda's supporters the Taliban in Afghanistan is unwinnable.
It also makes the point that not all Al Qaeda training camps are in Afghanistan anyway.
Howells is Gordon Brown's intelligence and security watchdog and his theory goes counter to the prevailing wisdom in Washington and London, both of which are preparing to send more troops to Afghanistan.
I believe this is a worthwhile option.
The Patriot Act pretty much blew all our privacy out of the water anyway. How much more intrusive could it get?
Definately worth looking into for the safety of our own troops as well.



