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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 07:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Albert o , realy, such a comment from a Ghanaan living in Canada who clearly is not familiar with Africa&#039;s history nor the causes of its current difficulties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Albert o , realy, such a comment from a Ghanaan living in Canada who clearly is not familiar with Africa&#8217;s history nor the causes of its current difficulties.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert  O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert  O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Zuma will be a great leader if we all give him the chance and One day we will be very surprised to see how great a leader he will be.
South Africa need such a leader that will unite the nation especially in a time like these with economy,crime, poverty, industries and commerce are key issue at hand. South Africa will need Black, White and all races together. I am from Ghana and leaves in Canada, I can assure all South Africans to be united and serve their country deligently without holding back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Zuma will be a great leader if we all give him the chance and One day we will be very surprised to see how great a leader he will be.<br />
South Africa need such a leader that will unite the nation especially in a time like these with economy,crime, poverty, industries and commerce are key issue at hand. South Africa will need Black, White and all races together. I am from Ghana and leaves in Canada, I can assure all South Africans to be united and serve their country deligently without holding back.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas  Wertheim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas  Wertheim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 04:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CRIME AND CORRUPTION INCREASED UNDER THE PREVIOUS ANC GOVERNMENT,but this will not happen now as we have a DA Opposition that will keep the ANC honest to fulfill their election promises that, and many other policies that are on paper,will have to be kept</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CRIME AND CORRUPTION INCREASED UNDER THE PREVIOUS ANC GOVERNMENT,but this will not happen now as we have a DA Opposition that will keep the ANC honest to fulfill their election promises that, and many other policies that are on paper,will have to be kept</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas  Wertheim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas  Wertheim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 04:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The DA  is now a strong opposition party,and will keep the ANC  honest and their aim to make South Africa a Black ruled country.So thank you Helen Zille democracy will for sure  bde retained for all South Africans,not only for Black Africans and Afrikaners as such,but for all the others that Zuma ignored in his quest for votes,the so called Coloureds ,Indians and other ethnic people that Zuma treated with contempt when he canvassed for votes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DA  is now a strong opposition party,and will keep the ANC  honest and their aim to make South Africa a Black ruled country.So thank you Helen Zille democracy will for sure  bde retained for all South Africans,not only for Black Africans and Afrikaners as such,but for all the others that Zuma ignored in his quest for votes,the so called Coloureds ,Indians and other ethnic people that Zuma treated with contempt when he canvassed for votes</p>
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		<title>By: Diehard democrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diehard democrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 01:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both Paul and Lovell have a point - let&#039;s be grateful SA&#039;s demnocracy works as smoothly as it does, even if the ANC&#039;s origins as an autocratic, heirarchical organisation keep showing through. What else should anyone expect from an organisation founded to overthrow a nasty, tough and oppressive system?  It was never going to produce a bunch of gentle idealists focused on nurturing a pluralist social democracy.  That&#039;s something a country evolves in that big learning process called the school of hard knocks.  It doesn&#039;t come from the barrel of a gun or from Communist agitators, at least we haven&#039;t seen it yet on this planet.

The ANC never did encourage dissent or criticism when it was a liberation organisation: it crushed such &quot;problems&quot;, often ruthlessly, even torturing and sometimes killing its own members &quot;when necessary&quot;, notably in its so-called armed wing, Umkhonto we Sizwe (&quot;Spear of the Nation&quot;) - one of the world&#039;s most useless fighing forces ever seen.  It is an unpalatable truth, but it happened - it can&#039;t just un-happen.

So its myopic attitude to dissent, which we see all the time now, is understandable.  Its change from liberation organisation to political party involved a lot of crashing of gears, so to speak: hardliners were pitted against liberalisers.  And the internal struggle goes on ... as it must in all political parties.  But many in the ANC also reckon their long years in the wilderness, with the self-imposed poverty and hardship, &quot;deserved&quot; to be rewarded when they got into power.  It was payback time.  

And so it has proved to be - often to the detriment of the millions in shanty towns, or the majority of the country who are not Xhosa, who got almost every key job going, large or small. (For those not familiar with SA demography: Zulus are the largest ethnic grouping; Xhosa next; Tswanas third; and several small groupings making up minorities - of which &#039;coloureds&#039; meaning mixed race, whites and Asians are the best known).  But Xhosa&#039;s, like Mandela, ran the show - so Xhosas brushed other &#039;tribes&#039; aside.  So much for non-racial politics.  No comment is needed.

So the ANC was never perfect: but who said it was? Its mixed constituency of communists, trade unionists, socialists and academics never claimed to be anything they weren&#039;t, such as cosy suburban liberals, like me.  But it remains a fact that as SA&#039;s ruling party, they have a lot to learn, and a lot to teach, about free speech, dissent, and yes, non-racial politics.  One day even the Xhosa stranglehold on the party may be loosened, perhaps even in Jacob Zuma&#039;s time, since he&#039;s a Zulu.  But I&#039;m not holding my breath. It has been what it is for many long decades, and change comes slowly everywhere in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both Paul and Lovell have a point &#8211; let&#8217;s be grateful SA&#8217;s demnocracy works as smoothly as it does, even if the ANC&#8217;s origins as an autocratic, heirarchical organisation keep showing through. What else should anyone expect from an organisation founded to overthrow a nasty, tough and oppressive system?  It was never going to produce a bunch of gentle idealists focused on nurturing a pluralist social democracy.  That&#8217;s something a country evolves in that big learning process called the school of hard knocks.  It doesn&#8217;t come from the barrel of a gun or from Communist agitators, at least we haven&#8217;t seen it yet on this planet.</p>
<p>The ANC never did encourage dissent or criticism when it was a liberation organisation: it crushed such &#8220;problems&#8221;, often ruthlessly, even torturing and sometimes killing its own members &#8220;when necessary&#8221;, notably in its so-called armed wing, Umkhonto we Sizwe (&#8220;Spear of the Nation&#8221;) &#8211; one of the world&#8217;s most useless fighing forces ever seen.  It is an unpalatable truth, but it happened &#8211; it can&#8217;t just un-happen.</p>
<p>So its myopic attitude to dissent, which we see all the time now, is understandable.  Its change from liberation organisation to political party involved a lot of crashing of gears, so to speak: hardliners were pitted against liberalisers.  And the internal struggle goes on &#8230; as it must in all political parties.  But many in the ANC also reckon their long years in the wilderness, with the self-imposed poverty and hardship, &#8220;deserved&#8221; to be rewarded when they got into power.  It was payback time.  </p>
<p>And so it has proved to be &#8211; often to the detriment of the millions in shanty towns, or the majority of the country who are not Xhosa, who got almost every key job going, large or small. (For those not familiar with SA demography: Zulus are the largest ethnic grouping; Xhosa next; Tswanas third; and several small groupings making up minorities &#8211; of which &#8216;coloureds&#8217; meaning mixed race, whites and Asians are the best known).  But Xhosa&#8217;s, like Mandela, ran the show &#8211; so Xhosas brushed other &#8216;tribes&#8217; aside.  So much for non-racial politics.  No comment is needed.</p>
<p>So the ANC was never perfect: but who said it was? Its mixed constituency of communists, trade unionists, socialists and academics never claimed to be anything they weren&#8217;t, such as cosy suburban liberals, like me.  But it remains a fact that as SA&#8217;s ruling party, they have a lot to learn, and a lot to teach, about free speech, dissent, and yes, non-racial politics.  One day even the Xhosa stranglehold on the party may be loosened, perhaps even in Jacob Zuma&#8217;s time, since he&#8217;s a Zulu.  But I&#8217;m not holding my breath. It has been what it is for many long decades, and change comes slowly everywhere in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Lovell</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/africanews/2009/04/23/zuma-sweeps-in/comment-page-1/#comment-3099</link>
		<dc:creator>Lovell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck South Africa! At least one country in Africa knows how to stage a free and fair election with almost a 75% turn-out. Instead of carping about Zuma and the ANC, let&#039;s celebrate a new,peaceful era for RSA with a capable opposition and a well-run economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck South Africa! At least one country in Africa knows how to stage a free and fair election with almost a 75% turn-out. Instead of carping about Zuma and the ANC, let&#8217;s celebrate a new,peaceful era for RSA with a capable opposition and a well-run economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear Phillipe , populism means exactly what you suggest it does not mean. It is an emotional selection and disregards maturity and wisdom. Will Zuma ultimately leave as peacefully as Mbeki, after changes are made to the constitution and the instuments of democracy are filled with die hard supporters, yielding those institutions vulnerable ? There are many parallels to suggest even a DRC scenario</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear Phillipe , populism means exactly what you suggest it does not mean. It is an emotional selection and disregards maturity and wisdom. Will Zuma ultimately leave as peacefully as Mbeki, after changes are made to the constitution and the instuments of democracy are filled with die hard supporters, yielding those institutions vulnerable ? There are many parallels to suggest even a DRC scenario</p>
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		<title>By: John Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, let me say this loudly, NONE of what happened here is SURPRISING!!!. The reason Reuters seems surprised is because they have been dishonest. They have been trying to lie that people dont like Zuma, that they have grown tired of the ANC and that the DA is now the darling in South Africa.

If you notice at every election since 1994, Reuters have always predicted a &#039;reduced&#039; majority for ANC and an increase in support for the DA. You know why? Because Reuters like all others in the western press sympathize with white South Africans only and get their views only from this minority. The reason for this is that most of these journalists are themselves white.

Most of us Africans were dismayed as we watched the western press spew what was essentially white South Africa  propaganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, let me say this loudly, NONE of what happened here is SURPRISING!!!. The reason Reuters seems surprised is because they have been dishonest. They have been trying to lie that people dont like Zuma, that they have grown tired of the ANC and that the DA is now the darling in South Africa.</p>
<p>If you notice at every election since 1994, Reuters have always predicted a &#8216;reduced&#8217; majority for ANC and an increase in support for the DA. You know why? Because Reuters like all others in the western press sympathize with white South Africans only and get their views only from this minority. The reason for this is that most of these journalists are themselves white.</p>
<p>Most of us Africans were dismayed as we watched the western press spew what was essentially white South Africa  propaganda.</p>
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		<title>By: Philippe Mandangi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philippe Mandangi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though controversial figure, Mr. Zuma will try to keep the investments flowing in South Africa to starve off the unemployment. As it is suggested that the famous finance minister will retain his department, Zuma knows that he has got a country, which need continuity if the economy has to recover and he will rely upon those who know best to deliver. Failure to deliver will just ignite opposition againt him by the same people who voted for him; populism does not mean lack of maturity and wisdom. South Africa should be proud that democracy is settling contrary to other african countries where competition is not on the menu when it comes to the election. President Mbeki was ousted without driving the army behind him as it is the case in DR Congo, Zimbabwe, Angola, Rwanda,Uganda, Madagascar...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though controversial figure, Mr. Zuma will try to keep the investments flowing in South Africa to starve off the unemployment. As it is suggested that the famous finance minister will retain his department, Zuma knows that he has got a country, which need continuity if the economy has to recover and he will rely upon those who know best to deliver. Failure to deliver will just ignite opposition againt him by the same people who voted for him; populism does not mean lack of maturity and wisdom. South Africa should be proud that democracy is settling contrary to other african countries where competition is not on the menu when it comes to the election. President Mbeki was ousted without driving the army behind him as it is the case in DR Congo, Zimbabwe, Angola, Rwanda,Uganda, Madagascar&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ANC will certainly win this one, probably with a majority, however hollow promises will again not be delivered. In 1994/1999 the ANC promised a reduction on poverty and more housing for the underprivileged (amongst countless other assurances) - These were not delivered and poverty has become significantly worse since 1994. Couple this with poor and ever-worsening border control, social support, infrastructure, racism and job opportunities - one finds that the rational equilibrium of achievement is sliding further and further away from reality. 

With the recession enviably about to slam South Africa&#039;s economy into dire straits, one wonders how a man without a formal qualification and who chants &#039;bring me my machine gun&#039; is possibly going to manage the sort of composure and intellectual fortitude required to weather the storm. 

This is going to be a disaster. Good luck SA, I am praying for you all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ANC will certainly win this one, probably with a majority, however hollow promises will again not be delivered. In 1994/1999 the ANC promised a reduction on poverty and more housing for the underprivileged (amongst countless other assurances) &#8211; These were not delivered and poverty has become significantly worse since 1994. Couple this with poor and ever-worsening border control, social support, infrastructure, racism and job opportunities &#8211; one finds that the rational equilibrium of achievement is sliding further and further away from reality. </p>
<p>With the recession enviably about to slam South Africa&#8217;s economy into dire straits, one wonders how a man without a formal qualification and who chants &#8216;bring me my machine gun&#8217; is possibly going to manage the sort of composure and intellectual fortitude required to weather the storm. </p>
<p>This is going to be a disaster. Good luck SA, I am praying for you all.</p>
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