Comments on: China-Russia is a match made in heaven, and that’s scary http://blogs.reuters.com/anatole-kaletsky/2014/05/22/china-russia-is-a-match-made-in-heaven-and-thats-scary/ Sat, 03 Jan 2015 16:42:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Benny27 http://blogs.reuters.com/anatole-kaletsky/2014/05/22/china-russia-is-a-match-made-in-heaven-and-thats-scary/#comment-1795 Wed, 28 May 2014 20:14:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/anatole-kaletsky/?p=1091#comment-1795 Inane comments from the ignorant americans

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By: pblerner http://blogs.reuters.com/anatole-kaletsky/2014/05/22/china-russia-is-a-match-made-in-heaven-and-thats-scary/#comment-1794 Wed, 28 May 2014 18:19:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/anatole-kaletsky/?p=1091#comment-1794 Dear Mr. Kaletsky:

You are absolutely right that “A long and complex diplomatic negotiation about rewriting the Ukrainian constitution might well have produced a compromise reluctantly accepted by all parties.” However, nobody in Washington or Brussels is interested in Ukrainians a wee bit. For the mega-bureaucracies of NATO, tensions and bad relations with Russia are a goal in itself justifying their existence and multi-billion dollar budgets,

Sincerely, Peter Lerner

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By: Leftcoastrocky http://blogs.reuters.com/anatole-kaletsky/2014/05/22/china-russia-is-a-match-made-in-heaven-and-thats-scary/#comment-1791 Tue, 27 May 2014 17:25:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/anatole-kaletsky/?p=1091#comment-1791 ” This means that U.S. allies can no longer realistically rely on Washington to deter Russia and China”

U.S. allies (e.g., Germany and Japan) need to step out to the plate more frequently and vigorously on military/foreign policy issues.

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By: ClearMind http://blogs.reuters.com/anatole-kaletsky/2014/05/22/china-russia-is-a-match-made-in-heaven-and-thats-scary/#comment-1785 Sun, 25 May 2014 06:07:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/anatole-kaletsky/?p=1091#comment-1785 The arguments presented have some logic in it even though not flawless.
1)The deal will be signed just a matter of time. The demand of energy from China has been so high that anyone who can sell them will be welcomed.
2)Putin’s visit and his willingness to go ahead definitely help the pact to be signed. For a seller, one more customer is always better, simple economics. For Putin one more leverage is always better to counter the Western hostility.
3)The recent US turning up the hostility of China in Asian arena, of course, has facilitated China to find a second supplier of energy and market for domestic goods in case more serious arguing with US and US Arab allies decide to stop supplying oil and such. Basic safety measures for any state security measures.

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By: Dave66 http://blogs.reuters.com/anatole-kaletsky/2014/05/22/china-russia-is-a-match-made-in-heaven-and-thats-scary/#comment-1783 Sat, 24 May 2014 11:55:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/anatole-kaletsky/?p=1091#comment-1783 USA made numerous errors in foreign policy. The worst error was not continually reforming East European style Kissinger-Brzezinski dictated foreign policy objectives just after the fall of the Soviet Union.

Initially, Russians were eager to join with the West in mutually beneficial projects, but hardcore “crush the competition” capitalism moved into Russia like a flock of vultures, with little rational planning or reasonable guidance from Washington. The result was a free-for-all.

Reagan set the stage by promoting the idea that USA beat Russia, and Russia was there for US interests to divide up the spoils of victory. Reagan promoting this idea was a huge mistake.

Bright-eyed and hopeful Post-Soviet Russia became much like the innocent girl who initially trusts everything her boyfriend says, but is taken advantage of by him, became disillusioned with the program being sold so vigorously by the West.

The arrogant US attitude quickly changed Russian and Chinese minds about fully cooperating with USA. They quickly saw that they must always quietly preserve themselves as nations against the uncontrolled desire of the USA to dominate them completely.

In other words, USA’s initial lack of self-control bungled a historical opportunity to create global mutual cooperation of the global superpowers for the betterment of all concerned.

The second great mistake was believing that the USA won the Cold War. The USSR fell from the weight of its own top heavy corruption seeping down to every village and town, and for no other reason alone.

The Soviet authoritarian system refined and re-refined itself into a totally non-functioning entity. We can see many similar analogies occurring in the USA these days.

At the heart of USA’s foreign policy mistakes lies the idea that USA must endlessly drive forward with force at all times, or defeat will follow. This notion, and the many destructive actions that are based on this notion, are at the heart of our present day difficulties. Torture of prisoners, endless wars, ever more paranoid fear of the world and even of US citizens. Random killing of foreigners in their own nations, supporting increasingly brutal puppet leaders in allied nations. And less and less concern for the needs of main street Americans.

In the eyes of many foreigners, USA is no longer seen as the world’s shining beacon of hope, but as the global bad guy, and this is not good.

USA, and its leaders need to take a long, quiet break,and carefully reevaluate the US position in relation to the world that has grown up around them. Current outdated US policy of attempting to dominate the world’s resources with 1950s style “brushfire wars” and bringing down foreign governments with coups is not nearly as effective as it once was.

We need to take a break and reconsider our relationships with the world, and then move forward as a some sort of “honest broker,”

Rebuilding global trust of USA will take some policy changes and that will take some time and a lot more diplomatic finesse than USA has displayed in recent years.

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By: KyleDexter http://blogs.reuters.com/anatole-kaletsky/2014/05/22/china-russia-is-a-match-made-in-heaven-and-thats-scary/#comment-1782 Fri, 23 May 2014 19:22:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/anatole-kaletsky/?p=1091#comment-1782 We are witnessing the decline of US power and influence.
This trade agreement is just the beginning……

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By: rtyz34ty69 http://blogs.reuters.com/anatole-kaletsky/2014/05/22/china-russia-is-a-match-made-in-heaven-and-thats-scary/#comment-1781 Fri, 23 May 2014 16:44:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/anatole-kaletsky/?p=1091#comment-1781 Several points for this Russian apologist.

1) If Russia wants to be China’s vassal so be it. The Chinese will take eastern siberian energy fields eventually. It is not that great a deal. Gazprom has to come up with about $60B to get the pipelines built and extract the gas. Comes on line in 2020. This or Putin will be all over by then.
2) Japan is capable of going nuclear with the flip of a switch. Japan can take China now on its own. Doesn’t need USA, but I’m sure they’d pile on. By take I don’t mean occupy I mean neuter.
3) The Russian military is a joke. NATO would smoke ’em.
4)A fight won’t happen because they will be kicked out of SWIFT eventually, which will bring them to their knees. Think Iran.
5) Say goodbye to the Tartus facility in Syria. And adios Assad.
6) Say hello to Georgia, the newest member of NATO.
7) Finally, the Americans have been raised and trained to fight Russia. NATO is geared to fight the Soviets / Russia. Anyone over 30 remembers the Soviet behavior and has never liked the USSR, NewUSSR, Russia, or the PRC. The American “public” loves to kick ass. They just like to see the enemy, something difficult with terrorists and low intensity conflicts.
8) Them coming together supposedly would be the single stupidest thing they could have ever done.
9) What should we call the new alliance between China Russia North Korea and Iran? Confederacy of dunces sounds appropriate.
10) How long before a Russian oligarch gets tired of this and double taps KGB Putin? Any wagers? I say three months.

Russian should have joined NATO a long time ago and shared in the prosperity of the EU. But their inferiority complex and general insecurity prevented it. Too bad for them.

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By: gonethesun http://blogs.reuters.com/anatole-kaletsky/2014/05/22/china-russia-is-a-match-made-in-heaven-and-thats-scary/#comment-1780 Fri, 23 May 2014 16:01:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/anatole-kaletsky/?p=1091#comment-1780 “A few months ago, neither Moscow nor Beijing would have imagined a Eurasian partnership possible — or even desirable.”

Except, of course, for the fact that Russia has spent over a decade planning and building pipelines to sell China natural gas. Selling China natural gas is hardly a new development. Further, the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) has been in existence for almost a decade, showing an acknowledgement of shared military interests (and cooperation) in Asia.

To say this development was “unimaginable” is to ignore the facts and is frankly ludicrous.

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By: waryobserver http://blogs.reuters.com/anatole-kaletsky/2014/05/22/china-russia-is-a-match-made-in-heaven-and-thats-scary/#comment-1779 Fri, 23 May 2014 08:35:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/anatole-kaletsky/?p=1091#comment-1779 Enough is enough – the repeatative but stale and worn-out news that US is the good guy whereas Russia and China are evils or that US is god send whilst the other two are from hell. Basically we can see that Russia and China came together as a direct result of US encirclement. Why should US embarked on this evil path which it should not have done had it live up to its self-created moral beacon? The common man like us would like to live in a world free from US hypocrisy, deception and make to feel that US is always number 1. We know that Russia and China are not any better but they don’t do what US does.

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By: Temujin http://blogs.reuters.com/anatole-kaletsky/2014/05/22/china-russia-is-a-match-made-in-heaven-and-thats-scary/#comment-1778 Fri, 23 May 2014 07:20:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/anatole-kaletsky/?p=1091#comment-1778 Russian Siberia and the Far East will overrun by the chinese when they become strong. I guess who will come to their rescue again, that right its America. Remember who help the Russian pushed back the Nazi Germany?

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