Comments on: Don’t dismiss the Wall Street occupation http://blogs.reuters.com/anthony-derosa/2011/09/26/dont-dismiss-the-wall-street-occupation/ Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:58:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: afreshup http://blogs.reuters.com/anthony-derosa/2011/09/26/dont-dismiss-the-wall-street-occupation/#comment-198 Wed, 12 Oct 2011 00:02:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/anthony-derosa/?p=327#comment-198 The Wall Street protest has Americans struggling with just who these people are and what they represent. So, naturally, they are also questioning their true motivations. Many view OWS as a “spontaneous” extension of President Obama’s own war on the rich which seemed to have conveniently reached a crescendo just as the first protesters appeared on Wall Street.

Others suspect, along with many of the conservative pundits, that it is a George Soros-backed conspiracy to stoke the anti-capitalist flames. And, there are others who see it as a ploy by the unions to build up their stature and their ranks.

Due to the lack of a coherent message or rational demand out of this largely disjointed association of activists, Americans are having trouble accepting it as a pure, grass-roots movement with legitimate intentions. The circus like, and borderline violent atmosphere, as opposed to the serious Tea Party demeanor, raises skepticism that the Wall Street protest is nothing more than a ploy to distract the American public from the abyssmal job performance of the current administration.

Having spread from Wall Street to main street it has garnered much more media attention, but the focus is as much on its unruliness and non-conformity as it is on any cogent message it is trying to convey.

Whether it is real or not, opportunistic or sincere, it is bringing to a much brighter light what most Americans are already sensing – that the country is sinking further into economic distress and the last drops of optimism have evaporated into a dark cloud of uncertainty. That a small number of people, although misguided and largely misinformed, would stand up to fight for jobs and their share of influence over policy making decisions, doesn’t seem so extreme or radical to the average American.

No one would argue with the need for more urgent action to turn the economy around. And, you won’t find too many people siding with the very institutions that, through their incessant hunger for profits, were willing accomplices to one of the worst financial calamities in our history.

In fact, at their core, the grievances that form the basis of many of its demands are shared by people on both sides of the aisle. Even Tea Partiers find little to fault with OWS’s assault on crony capitalism and lack of accountability of Wall Street’s complicity in the financial crisis. They just believe that their anger is misdirected.

The Tea Party see’s the government and its designs on the people’s liberties as the root of all evil, while the OWS crowd sees Wall Street, the banks and corporate America as the evil doers. While there is enough blame to spread around, the reality is that, by targeting the private sector, the protesters are biting the hands that feed them – literally.

True, many of the protesters are recipients of government handouts – many are unemployed and a good number are receiving some sort of welfare. But, the government isn’t going to give them a job, and it certainly doesn’t produce the many products and technological innovations that they are now enjoying even as they mount their assault on capitalism. By disrupting the thousands of local businesses, the wall street protest are hurting the economies of dozens of cities which will only exacerbate the financial distress of their communities.

If instead, they joined hands and marched, peacefully, on Washington and targeted the politicians who perpetuate the crony capitalism they abhor, and who have broken their promises to “fix” Wall Street and get the lobbyists out of the White House, and who, through their actions or in-actions, are suppressing the ability of businesses to generate more jobs, they will have a much greater impact.

Instead of coalescing around an unpopular campaign (1% versus the 99%) to pit the rich against the middle class, it is only going to stoke the fires of the President and other leftist politicians who have been trying the same strategy without success. The people don’t want to hear it.

The problem for OWS, is that, with no clear leadership and no clearly articulated message, they have been, and are still in the process of being hijacked by every activist group or whacko cause out there, and now the unions, the Marxists and the politicians are co-opting the movement for their own purposes.

While all of the added support and encouragement from these groups has emboldened the movement and made its voice louder, all it has really done is made it more shrill and even more disjointed. Add to the soup, the infiltration by every homeless person, drug addict, ageless hippie and teen in search of a rave party, and you have a spectacle that few Americans can relate too, which is unfortunate.

Everyone from the Fed Chairman to Warren Buffet, from Hollywood liberals to conservative talk show hosts, from Tea Partiers to the President, agree that the anger is real, the outrage is justified, and that Wall Street and the politicians need to be held to account for the malaise in which we find ourselves. But the assault on the private sector and capitalism is misguided.

Capitalism has done nothing but create prosperity for all who actively participate in it. It’s the Washington politicians who, throughout history, have tried to control capitalism that have inflicted the damage. That’s where OWS needs to go right now. 

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By: 3d60 http://blogs.reuters.com/anthony-derosa/2011/09/26/dont-dismiss-the-wall-street-occupation/#comment-193 Sat, 08 Oct 2011 11:30:03 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/anthony-derosa/?p=327#comment-193 I’m sitting in my comfortable house in bristol in the uk, this is all news to me, I have spent the last two hours researching and discovering for myself what is happenning in america. It’s amazing spectacular and I hope not too late, in terms of media coverage I wouldn’t have known it was happening, but I gave up on mainstream media after 911 anyway.

The one thing I want to say is, for me all this can be summed up in one phrase ‘what democracy?’ we wage war to bring it to the middle east, we keep people poor by sanctions for those who don’t sign up for it. But in it’s heart land the burning flame of of its inception, it counts for nothing.. Democracy has become a sham a shadow play to manipulate us.

I call on all who read this to wake up and start taking action because your vote means nothing, your voice and your heart are the only things which will cause change. All our poloticians do is what they are told to do, our control has long gone…. wake up speak out and you will not walk alone.I and many others will march with you.

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By: bryanX http://blogs.reuters.com/anthony-derosa/2011/09/26/dont-dismiss-the-wall-street-occupation/#comment-190 Wed, 28 Sep 2011 20:37:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/anthony-derosa/?p=327#comment-190 “There are very real ways to work to change the system, legislatively. And most of us who care deeply about the country, the workforce, and the economy are hard at works where it matters — with our Senators and Representatives and lobbying efforts.”

Really?

Our current dysfunctional Legislative Branch and Impotent Executive Branch, both which seem to be captured by crony capitalist lobbying interests, are some of the major reasons why people are taking it to the streets.

Lack of credible representation is precisely what leads to this sort of thing.

Not that there aren’t a lot of credible and competent people within the system trying to hammer out something workable. But a minority of extremists within government have managed to deadlock and corrupt the process.

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By: AmericanLady http://blogs.reuters.com/anthony-derosa/2011/09/26/dont-dismiss-the-wall-street-occupation/#comment-189 Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:44:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/anthony-derosa/?p=327#comment-189 I haven’t been able to find the protests mentioned on Google News, my major source for what are considered important news items these days. Because I typed in “Wall Street Protests” I found out that another protest is starting in Boston. The Tea Party was everywhere when they started, but this appears to be willfully suppressed by the media and I would like to know why? I realize these protestors are disorganized (unlike the Tea Party, which appears to have been funded by business interests), but as time is going on, they’re getting better at organization. And most important, they have been nonviolent. If violence were to break out, could I trust the media to do its job and make sure that the culprits weren’t from the outside trying to discredit the protestors? I have sympathy for people being inconvenienced by the protest, but this seemingly willful media silence only risks increasing my sympathy toward the protestors. Is that what the media wants to do? I don’t think that shutting our eyes and plugging our ears is going to make it go away. Nor should it. They have an important point to make.

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By: Acetracy http://blogs.reuters.com/anthony-derosa/2011/09/26/dont-dismiss-the-wall-street-occupation/#comment-188 Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:06:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/anthony-derosa/?p=327#comment-188 I live in NYC and for years I roll my eyes at the coverage the NYT, FOX News, NY1, etc. will give to a small group of 5 protestors about bike lanes, yet completely ignore coverage or dismiss groups of 1000s when it doesn’t fit the agenda of their respective corporate owners.

The protest down on Wall STreet, and for those who do not know NYC downtown – it is a maze of small streets much like the Left Bank of Paris but of course with skyscrapers. It is usually completely empty outside of business hours except for the lines of tourists boarding ferries. EVen before the protests, Bloomberg has created a bunker situation all around the stock exchange – even tens years after 9-11!! It is a disgrace to NY history. Right across the street anarchists tried to blow up JP Morgan in the 1920s – yet NY didn’t back then to block off entire streets to the public afterwards.

Thank god for internet coverage of the protests, and esp. of the horrible police behavior in NYC. Most of NYC police live in the suburbs – not the city – and have a strong hatred for the city and its inhabitants.

I was in the march against the Iraq war before we invaded. There were 10,000s of people marching down 1st avenue on a weekend with a permit yet the police behaved much like you see in Syria, Egypt and Libya (well at least they didn’t use live ammo). So let’s hope this ad hoc group against Wall Street greed and government incompetence starts to get traction.

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By: ZGHerm http://blogs.reuters.com/anthony-derosa/2011/09/26/dont-dismiss-the-wall-street-occupation/#comment-187 Wed, 28 Sep 2011 02:45:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/anthony-derosa/?p=327#comment-187 It is convenient to dismiss this protest, as it has been largely non-violent, the numbers are not as high as expected, and they are lacking leadership or a well structured demand.
But if we look at it in view of the other street protests all over the globe, we could see a trend appearing: more and more people, especially the younger generation are unhappy, and they are rightly so. The unemployment in the younger age groups is higher than ever in most of the developed countries, most of the young people do not have any secure future prospects, and in the deepening global crisis they do not even have hopes for quick recovery. The layers of society affected by the crisis are widening day by day.
They might not know how to articulate their unhappiness yet, but they feel that they cannot expect solutions from present day leaders, who only seem to be interested in their positions, re-elections, or in satisfying the lobbies supporting them.
I think these worldwide demonstrations are signs of a much deeper dissatisfaction, desperation which is worth paying attention to.
Today we have to look at everything considering the complete, global picture as we are interlocked in a mutual network, we cannot take incidents out of the world wide context.

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By: aliciamitchell http://blogs.reuters.com/anthony-derosa/2011/09/26/dont-dismiss-the-wall-street-occupation/#comment-186 Tue, 27 Sep 2011 20:11:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/anthony-derosa/?p=327#comment-186 It’s amazing that Wall Street is surpirsed by all the activists, which I am referring to as “We the People Occupy” because they are representing me and 99% of the rest of America. I am behind them, and am glad to know people are handing out pizzas and other food for them. I can’t wait until I can get there to join them. The activists are not crazzy, they are just pissed off like the rest of us. They are not anti-corporation, they are saying they want a job and to live the American Dream. America is tired of the greed, but national news is trying to tag a negative connotation behind the activists.

http://detectingpolitics.blogspot.com/20 11/09/we-people-occupy-activists-not-ant i.html

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By: tovangar2 http://blogs.reuters.com/anthony-derosa/2011/09/26/dont-dismiss-the-wall-street-occupation/#comment-182 Tue, 27 Sep 2011 11:00:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/anthony-derosa/?p=327#comment-182 Dear @AngelFace Do you know which of your legislators are ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Council) members? Because if they are I fear you’re not going “to change the system”. ALEC is a secretive, Koch Bros-backed organization of 300 of the most powerful corporations and 2,000 state legislators. Corporate-approved “model bills” are introduced into state legislatures by compliant ALEC-member legislators in return for campaign contributions and other perks. These bills get voted into law and benefit corporations at the expense of the public. This conspiracy has been wildly successful and has gone a long way towards undermining the United States through state law. Many ALEC alum (including Boehner & Cantor) now are in Congress and have brought ALEC sensibilities with them. Others (like Scott Walker) have become state Governors.

Unless your legislators are free from ALEC influence, you are wasting your time trying to work with them, Check the ALECexposed web site for a list of known ALEC members. Look at the corporate members too and please boycott their consumer products. Thank you.

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By: cynthanny http://blogs.reuters.com/anthony-derosa/2011/09/26/dont-dismiss-the-wall-street-occupation/#comment-181 Tue, 27 Sep 2011 04:28:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/anthony-derosa/?p=327#comment-181 Though it may seem this group is disorganized, they should be appalled! It is about time people took to the streets to send the Banks and the Politicians a clear message! Obviously by voting out our last congress wasn’t enough to get our corrupt government to CLEAN up!
I haven’t seen anything on the nightly news, or my local new covering this story, since it began. As the crowds get bigger, it would seem they aren’t going to just go away. We need real reform and we need it yesterday!
The NYPD are out of control! The unnecessary brutality must be stopped and does that NY cop with his little video camera think he and his co workers look better to the public? Get a grip NYPD, stop the beatings and unjustified arrests!

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By: ONEMORE http://blogs.reuters.com/anthony-derosa/2011/09/26/dont-dismiss-the-wall-street-occupation/#comment-180 Tue, 27 Sep 2011 01:24:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/anthony-derosa/?p=327#comment-180 AngelFace you are very wrong when you think this people do it for their 15 minutes of fame. You should go with them sometime, in a safe environment, to make sure you do not have your 15 minutes of fame and will fill ashamed of your way of thinking know.
This is told you by a 72 years all man that when ever possible am with them avoiding only when I can expect violence, this only because of my age, I do not need a broken bone. I need health and vitality to continue the struggle for you, your children and grandchildren, against the evil you see and do nothing, you wait for voting a a way to exert your right to change.
Sorry the vote will not give you the desired results, the Congress people with the Corporations have taken care of that.

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