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August 10th, 2006

Maybe I’ll stay at home…

Posted by: Emily Church
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Airline stocks stumbled after British police said they foiled a bomb plot on jetliners. Investors fear people are going to travel less. Cancelled flights and images of travelers pouring the contents of their carry-on luggage into clear plastic bags in U.S. and British airports may discourage even more flying.

Some analysts expect an overreaction is taking place. Are they right or are you planning to travel less on planes?

92 comments so far

I will travel to the EU and back to the U.S. later this year. Nothing will deter free nations from keeping that freedom alive.

- Posted by al

The onboard experience would be more pleasant if people didn’t insist on carrying on huge bags the size of motor homes and stuffing them into all available space.

I do wonder how parents of young children will cope without a steady supply of juice and water.

- Posted by Patrick

I will probably travel less if we are not allowed to bring on unchecked luggage. Even a regulation bag will not be able to carry on toilet supplies. Having to carry all of my medications bottles instead of the usual 7 day carriier I use for medications is impractical and means that I will have to check medications. This is risky with the poor delivery of checked bags I have experienced. There is talk about not allowing laptops to be carried on either and this will effectively kill business travel for me and most of my employees.

- Posted by Lawrence Leichtman

I am travelling to London in three weeks with a 10 month old baby and the thought of 8 hrs on a plane without toys, food, nappies, fresh clothes, books and anything else to keep her quiet and distracted scares me more than the security threat.

- Posted by Alisa

The Terrorists are caught. Flying become even safer. I am feeling better about travel despite the inconvenience of tighter security

- Posted by Bru

I have never been to europe, so to me, going to see europe is worth the risk. No one should let the terrorists win by not flying. Terrorists try to do just that, scare people into believing something, and if we give in, they have won.

- Posted by Andy

Been flying 34+ years as a means to earn a living.
This is a freedom that is earned.It is an absolute nightmare now.Security/lines/checks/double checks etc
It is time that hi-tech stepped up to the plate to help us weary business travelers out.If we can replave multiple organs/fly to the moon and back we can find a way to “segragate” the travel “regulars” I will not let these diabolical monsters run my life

- Posted by robert goodbar

I will not allow a bunch of knuckleheads with ’sacred terrorism’ in mind stop me from doing what I want. I will be grateful to them if their actions result in the banning of carry-on baggage. The travelers who routinely hassle the rest of us by dragging suitcases down narrow aisles & then attempt to stuff them into the overhead compartments, taking up half the compartment, are boorish and inconsiderate. The airlines should have never allowed it to begin with. Allow Mom’s their infant bags…easy to check for contraband.

- Posted by Tim Coogan

My mother was supposed to fly from Warsaw to NYC through Heathrow on British Airways today. Her flight was cancelled and she is now searching for a way to get home, while will most likely not happen until Sunday. My sister and I are also flying to NYC from Warsaw through Heathrow on British Monday.
If anything, I think this event has made me more confident to fly. Intelligence agencies are doing good work, as evidenced by this plot being uncovered. In addition, the extra security measures that will be in place during my flight will only serve to make me feel safer, knowing that a plot which could have very well unravelled the day of my flight on the same route I am to fly has been broken up.
We must continue with our daily lives, not letting such people scare us away from the business of our daily life.

- Posted by Kevin K

It would really be great if the genius behind the official government position wasn’t something along the lines of “Hey, if we make the whole process of flying so obnoxious that no one does it anymore, we can claim victory over teh terrorists because there won’t be any more flights for them to bomb!!1!”

- Posted by Wayne

I will probably travel a lot less by commercial airlines because of the new government mandated harrassment of passengers, time consuming searches, and the accompanying delays that will make commercial air travel unpleasant.

When I fly for business, I’ll probably go in with others and spend a little extra money to charter a General Aviation jet.

The new hassles of air travel (the implementation of which indicates that the terrorists are winning big in the so called WAR ON TERROR) will definitely hurt the airlines.

- Posted by THE__EAGLE

Even when September 11 happened, nothing would deter me from flying.
I’m actually more scared of travelling by car or train in (old) bridges than taking a flight from London to NYC. The only thing that usually deters me from flying are the ticket prices! Now that’s scary, not terrorists.

- Posted by Piper

I’m a single 30 something male. About an hour ago I just purchased a plane ticket form Ft Lauderdale to Newark to help my brother in law move. I’m also planning on visiting Vancouver, BC in October. The news of a bomb plot really didn’t effect my travel plans. Tickets have been purchased and I’m ready to fly. It’s just another day. I don’t mind waiting at the airport for longer. That’s the exact reason I purchased an airport club membership. No need to bring drinks onboard when you can get loaded for free before the flight. My biggest concern remains getting my checked-in baggage back at the other end…

- Posted by Mr. Michael

I am sick of people trying to ruin our great nation by blowing up airplanes and killing innocent people. I will never step inside a plane again, and if that means never leaving the good old USA then by golly I’m staying put and will rather drive across the country than have a terrorist try to blow me up!!

- Posted by George

I try to avoid flying these days. As a young single man I am always “randomly” selected. It is such a pain that I’d rather just stay home. Don’t people realize that the point of terrorist attacks is to alter our way of life? Mission accomplished.

- Posted by Doug

I’m scared to death to travel with all these islmamic fascists trying to kill Americans. Thank God Bush is strong and doesn’t mince words. This is a religious war, and we can’t let the evil ones win.

- Posted by Bill Tobin

I’m not planning to change our travel plans in the slightest. Out of the 42,000+ flights per day in this country alone, the chance of being in either a plane crash or on a particular plane targeted by terrorists is virtually a statistical zero. I live in Colorado and am more likely to be killed by a lighting strike according to the statistics, because Colorado has the most fatalities from lightning of any state. And traveling by automobile is far more dangerous statistically than flying! My wife got on her plane as planned today, and flew to Washington, D.C. I think we’re safer today by far than we were before September 11, when we were all in a “dream world” about believing that if we played nice-nice, that nobody would ever want to kill us for no particular reason. Well, sorry but they do. But they’re not exactly succeeding at it lately, are they? When was the last successful terrorist attack on U.S. soil? Answer: 9/11/01.

- Posted by Tim Trumble

I travel Internationally constantly as an English as a Second Language facilitator/program trainer. I am not bothered in the least by the on-board restrictions with take-on items. We shouldn’t even care if our hair gel, make-up, fingernail clippers, or drinks make it. These items can all be purchased upon arrival… The only thing that matters is safety; let’s leave such safety issues up to the experts to who make these decisions… after all, it worked this morning and on countless other flights! And if you are afraid of flying, simply don’t do it; but for the sake and sanity of those of who do, please keep your fears to yourself (or ask your Dr. for a Valium pre-flihgt)…. Flying is safer than ANY other form of transportation, even walking. So, sit back and enjoy your flight! You’ll be fine!!!

- Posted by KMC, 36

I will definitely avoid air travel in near future. Not worth it, hope I have patience for my next couple of trips already planned. These measures to not allow fluids in the carry on has no effect, terrorist will try something else. What is the limit? Next time they find explosives in the clothes and we will be standing in our underwears for security checks.

- Posted by andy

Being afraid to fly is letting the terrorist win. I dont have plans at the moment to fly but I plan on flying to Europe in the near future. It might be an inconvience to passangers to go through more security and have more restrictions, but that is what is keeping us safe. I live everyday to the fullest and live with no regrets. If I would stop flying that would not enable me to see the world and yes the USA is great and wonderful but there is too many other beautiful places to see.

- Posted by Laura

Judging by the histeria generated, the terrorists will no doubt still view this as a success. I don’t think knee-jerk airport security hysteria does any good to people - the media picks up on it and has a field day, that in turn only furthers the cause of terrorists, i.e. to create a sense of fear and terror in the general population, not to mention economic stagnation. Unfortuantely zero-risk does not exists. However, it would be far better in my view to invest more money towards intelligence than placing an excessive burden on the airline industry. Economies will loose far more if travel becomes paralysed by fear.

- Posted by Seb

I will not be deterred from flying. Bought a ticket this morning just becuase of today’s incident. Kudo’s to the people who did their job & stopped the present threat. Prayers for the TSA people who work under public pressure every day. Strength to the airlines (and a good marketing campaign to explain “what a liquid is” and help us remember to sort it all out and pack it properly). Patience to both the inexperienced and road weary experienced travelers. Freedom and commerce will prevail.

- Posted by Dianne

It is easy to be flippant from the safety of our homes as we sit behind a computer screen. I am willing to say that it scares me.I find it maddening that any wicked person can pull the curtain on my life or the life of someone that I love at anytime they please. I don’t park out in the dark secluded section of a parking lot when I go shopping at night and I don’t fly as much as I used to do. I think that there is an over-reaction by the gov and airlines in the actions they take but I don’t think that changes the reality.

- Posted by KH

My boss’s friend has to drive from Seattle to Sacramento today to pick up his son because they are not allowing any unaccompanied minors to fly. They tried to get him on a train, but a train ticket would have cost $900, but they are sold out so that doesn’t really matter. Right now the child is staying with family in Sacramento until his father can pick him up. Why can’t he just stay in California for a few days? He’s scheduled for surgery this weekend.
This is just ridiculous.

- Posted by Jeanna

What is going on here? Why are these people filled with so much hatred for American citizens? Remember the perpetrators of the 911 attack were neither Afgans or Iraqi. The majority were Saudi Arabian. In this latest incident they are Pakastani and the Madrid train bombers were Moroccans. Yet Bush continues to send more troops into Iraq and is suppling rockets to Israel to crush the Lebanese. I for one am keeping my feet on terra ferma until G.W.Bush learns his Geography.

- Posted by Padraig

I will travel more. I don’t know why carry-on bagage was ever permitted in the first place after 9/11. What are the governments thinking?

It will be an absolute pleasure to board a 747 in 30 minutes, versus 90 minutes with those hauling and “sneaking” everything on board.

If you need it that bad, send it ahead.

Cheers.

- Posted by Steve B

Ive been following the happenings of so called security based decisions since 9/11, and I have to say that although the intelligence organizations are doing a great job our lives and freedoms are being eroded. Whatever happened to the we will show the terrorists that our lives arent affected and continue as usual mentality?

Reading the BBC website I was stunned at the latest developments about security measures to and from London. Its obvious that the people making these decisions either fly on their own private jets or are exempt from these regulations.

I fly regularly, between Australia-UK, UK-US, UK-Europe for work I cant begin to imagine not even being able to take my walkman on the plane, let alone a book (because we all love reading the in-flight magazines they usually keep me occupied enough for a whole of 2 mins).

Our way of life is being eroded more and more every day under the guise of security and protection these are scare tactics designed to prime us for new and harsher measures in the future.

I was meant to fly to London in 2 weeks I have just gotten off the phone with the travel company and will instead fly into Paris and catch the train to London. The process will reverse on the outbound journey. If London doesnt want direct traffic, Ill be more than happy to fly through a civilized and level headed country like France.

Welcome to martial law you have no power to control your own lives any more.

- Posted by ratty

Comments to ratty:
You do not seem to realize what terrorist would like to do with us. Your concern for your walkman and your book seems to divert your travel to a “civilized and level headed country like France”. Bon voyage. Just be careful with the burning cars in Paris streets !!!

- Posted by Carlos

The terrorists hate us for our freedom? If that’s the case, then why are neocons so enthusiastic about taking away freedoms from Americans, to please the terrorists?!

Flying has become a nightmare domestically in the US, you’re lucky to get peanuts, and a drink anymore. Now with these so-called security measures that makes every passenger basically conditioned to be treated like a prisoner before heading to their cell/plane.

- Posted by NotaNeocon

I think I’ll fly more often and drink and smoke more too. I like to comment. I’m mad as hell over having missed my regularly scheduled TV programming, as I am now forced to share my opions with you.

- Posted by nandy

I will be traveling by plane less, no question. Welcome to the 21st version of World War III — war on civilians. I no longer feel safe. Time to move to Australia!

- Posted by Gina Smith

if the whole story is true, ie if the guys caught really were about to blow planes up, then an amazed by the achievment the british inteligence. imagine if the cia had done the same on 9/10… a question remains : if bin laden finances are being tracked (cf the swift story), and the whole organization crippled, then who financed this one ?? getting 24 guys to plan and execute this big didnt come cheap… so who could be behind this one ? anyone ? please let not blame the iranians again

- Posted by Stef

If the USA would just drop the politically correct nonsense and profile passengers it’d be a lot safer than it is now. How many airliners has El Al lost since they started profiling? Who should screeners be checking? Little old ladies who are almost too frail to walk, or young Arab men who talk loudly into cell phones and *know* that they’re not going to get singled out for a check because it’s profiling? Get real, folks… TSA stands for Too Stupid to work at Arby’s or something.

- Posted by Zig

At the moment I’m living and working abroad in S. Korea. For those who might remember,
N. Korea blew up several planes to deter people from visiting their neighbor for the Olympics in the 90s. There’s a lot of angry people out there, as we well know, who think that violent statements are the most effective statements. When I travel (and I do travel a lot), I refuse to let their actions and intentions effect or deter me. They want to change my life for their cause, and I won’t listen or react so long as they use violence for their voice. I try to hear and listen to the many voices of reason, and fortunately none have yet to convince me that air planes are the root of the world’s problems. For the issues I believe in, I try to use my money and American vote to encourage positive change. I flew on a plane exactly one month after 9/11, and I will fly again next week.

I would like to say, however, that the sources for this hate are various and complex. Some are reasonable complaints, some were once reasonable and have become distorted, and some are simple proprganda. Many of these suicide bombers are like everyday Americans who watch TV and go to church: they believe what they hear everyday and what they are told. Their virulent ideas and opinions arise from a one-sided context that leaves little room for debate. We know this is wrong, look at the destruction they cause, but from reading some of the posts above, I can see that the same sort of context also thrives in America and other parts of the ‘free’ world. Please please don’t become your enemy.

- Posted by Michelle

It’s always bugged me why people need any carry-on luggage at all. I’m a frequent flyer and experience has taught me that all I need is my passport, boarding pass and wallet. EVERYTHING ELSE can be packed in my check-in baggage. The pay-back is that I breeze through security. No having to dump all my excess nonessential junk into an x-ray tray and wait for it to go through. No trying to squeeze my flight bag (red-faced) into a pile of junk in the overhead compartments. If the flight is a short one, I read the in flight magazine and have a coffee, if it’s long haul the entertainment is provided anyway. Why anyone thinks they need a bottle of shampoo, nail-clippers or a tent is beyond me. I mean honestly, how long can your nails grow during a four hour flight anyway?

- Posted by Padraig

I just really, really hate this. I have absolutely no desire to fly right now, and NOT, let me repeat that, NOT because I am afraid. I am pissed off.

How many hoops does an average american like me have to jump through to prove that I am not a terrorist and that the bottle of water in my backpack is not a WMD?

What’s next, making us strip down in a locker room and walk onto the airplane in TSA-approved jump suits, carrying our wallets in plastic baggies?

- Posted by NJG from NYC

The first of the year, I quit my old job which involved air travel every other week. My new job requires hardly any travel, and I haven’t been to the airport since.

I was tired of the TSA’s brainless overreaction to every threat, while doing little or nothing to actually make air travel safer. They’re still a bunch of idiots, and if I never set foot on an airliner again, it’ll be too soon.

Business travel? 90% of all business can be handled with a fax machine, a teleconference and a Webex. You don’t need to actually GO there to do WORK there.

Leisure travel? Take the kids to the local zoo, or sit in the shade by the pool with a good book. Go camping, or take a walk in the country. You don’t need to fly to have a vacation. Stay home, relax, and let United and Disney go broke in peace.

- Posted by Ken Mitchell

No.It is no longer worth the hassel.

- Posted by Mike

What a boon for the airlines — now they can charge $3 for a bottle of water since you can’t bring it with you. Kids are allowed carry-on juice, but not oldsters? They stock juice on board already! You can carry cell phones, ipods, and computers on domestic flights, but not international? Where’s any common sense in this? Since it already takes me 3 hours to travel to an airport, and I have to arrive 2 hours early as is, I won’t bother nearly as often — I am hassled out. PROFILE, stop hassling grandma!!!! Target terrorists, not hand lotion.

- Posted by pat

Another plot conspired by Blair and Bush to help justify their wars on the arabs. However this conspiracy has backfired hugely on Blair according to the Brits. We have dismissed the plot as a hoax and condemn the exploitation of British citizens as means to win back support for the war against muslims.
George Bush gave it away when he claimed that he had begun a ‘war with islamic fascists’ clearly showing his objective and intensions of this hoax.
British officials have failed to scare Brits and world-wide opinion has accused the two leaders as ‘trying to justify their war crimes.’
Britain also denounced Blair’s blind support for the Bush administration and he does not act on behalf of Great Britain. We are in full support of Lebanon and freedom. We do not classify resistance of Hezbollah as ‘terrorism.’
The conspiracy has failed to win Blair support at home, and if anything has damaged his credibility as this hoax is very transparent.

- Posted by harrisofUK

It’s just a hassle anymore. Nobody gets it straight. Why not just say “No More Carry-on’s). This way, no more long lines to wait for the bags to go through the x-ray, and make domestic flying what it is suppose to be, a faster way of transportation. Well, and maybe the airlines have to supply baby formula, and juices, which could be selected as you book your flight. Hours at the airport, not for me, I rather spend hours in the car, with a nice cup of coffe, and look at the scenery.

- Posted by Denise

Job posting:
Airport Security Checker $12 / hour
Carpenter $35 / hour

wonder who cares more on how good of a job they do.

- Posted by Shari

Well… Interesting question. If it’s inland of US than I have to be damn crazy to drive an SUV from West Coast anywhere else - gas prices will KILL me… On the other hand - I can’t have a shaver, tooth paste, mouth wash, or a damn lighter with me or God knows what else. Can I Please wear my underwear next time I fly via air? What amazes me is that airlines will suffer again from loss of revenue and our government (us - taxpayers) will pay their loss!

At any rate why not just come-up with a plan not to have any friggin carry-on (it will also free-up some space for me and those obese 65% of US population flying next to me) and invest into easy-to-track luggage service expedited on the same flight. Just think about cost savings and this total hysteria ending! Now here is the kicker - California and other states will have National Guards troops in airports dispatched! What for?! That is the question! Protect from who? From a mother with her 6-months old child and a bottle of breast milk?!

by the way… Bill Tobin, you are an idiot. Mr. President stated before quite clearly - it’s NOT a religious war…

- Posted by Dennis

I have had over 200,000 frequent flyer miles in the last 15 years, and if I never fly again, it will be fine with me; not because I fear terrorists, but because the airlines are finally being forced to take security seriously, and I refuse to put up with the poorly conceived and badly executed nonsense that is the result.

In my opinion, the 9/11 horror was solely due to United Airlines not executing their responsibility to put serious security procedures in place during the past 20 years.

- Posted by Gnuut Jensen

This. Is. Ridiculous.

I bring carry on luggage because I can live out of one bag for weeks. Its always made far more sense to me to be able to carry all that I need on the plane and off the plane, circumventing many many many headaches. I’m scared and surprised nobody is yet questioning the truth behind these supposed discoveries. There is not enough evidence being shown to the public about this “discovery.” How are we to know this isnt another one of the Bush adminsitrations ways of wrapping even tighter control around us in a time of faltering hope in our president? I know you might say “Ridiculous!” but… don’t believe everything you read, and look at the past. Nothing is EVER as it seems with these things.

- Posted by Bob

Carryons are essential for a traveling person who has lost luggae on multiple stop passenger flights. Getting to a motel with no food, water toothpaste is very bad. Washing your hair with a bar of motel soap doesnt cut it.
I will definitely fly less and I am already thinking of cancelling my flight to Chicago in September, and just staying home.
Yes I am flying less, I think the emnphasis is to political and not rational.
They should be searching all arab and indian passengers not white old ladies, sorry it is just rediculous.

- Posted by Joey Trandel

I Travel quite frequently on planes and to be honest if there were a terrorist attack every day i still wouldn’t mind flying in a plane. All it means is that i will get cheaper airfare. On average a person experiences a life and death situation once in thier life,iv learned to accept death as part of being born. I really couldn’t care less about terrorists if someone is trying to hi-jack a plane get out of your seat and kill them. 5 people with probably 20 bullets each against 200 unarmed will still lose the fight. Our founding fathers fought and risked their lives on multiple occasions for us, if it becomes necessary do it for your fellow passengers.

- Posted by Ethan

I don’t fly unless I have to anymore, the marathon waits, dumping out your pockets, the shoebox-seating, prices that seem to always go up, the thrill is gone as far as I’m concerned with the golden age of air travel, you’d be better off just driving. Car travel takes longer, but what’s the real hurry, anyway? Ships can go place to place, and you can kind of have a vacation-in-transit instead of rushrushrush stand in this line, stand in that line, like I said I don’t want to fly unless I have to.

- Posted by Bert

Security measures…Ha 2 months ago i did a test. i took a colt 1911 and field stripped it. then i stuck it ontop of my x-box, the only comment i got from security is, do you have halo 2 in there too? x-ray machines are worthless and searching luggage is a breach of our freedoms. hows this for an idea. passangers are allowed to bring guns on board, loaded!!! bet you terrorists will start putting chemicals to blow up your betty crocker cakes instead.

- Posted by Josh

It won’t change anything regarding my travel habits, but I’m somewhat amazed at how much people seem to take air travel for granted.
It’ll only really be safe once we evolve wings.

The terrorists don’t only want to change our way of life, they want to isolate us from each other to amplify our already dangerous xenophobia (even between supposed allies). The global community itself is under direct threat.

- Posted by Neil

I may not directly travel less, but I will change the way I fly. In the past, I thought it was better to fly non-stop across the Atlantic and make a connection to our final destination.
Now, I think it will be better to make a connection in the U.S. to an airport where we can fly to our final destination. If there are no direct flights from a U.S. airport to Newcastle or York, then we may stop going to England. Heathrow was shutdown for air traffic control problems, then shutdown for a food service strike and now this happens. The days of
international gateway airports are over for me.

- Posted by James

People fly way too much anyway. It’s a huge waste of fuel. If people would stay home and take care of their own they wouldn’t have these worries. These problems are a direct result of globalization.

- Posted by Pete

I think that if people fly less, as Pete points out, that’s a positive for the environment. I also agree with many of the comments regarding the knee-jerkness of security responses. It seems to be all about appearance, with little real substance or intelligence, and although there is probably some small deterrent factor in the mere appearance of security screening, the determination of suicide attackers is not among those deterred by such superficial tactics.

The policies of the USA are sowing Dragon’s Teeth across the Islamic world. Instead, we should be working to make the world a place in which new suicide attackers are not created. In other words, along with intelligence, and security measures based on actual intelligent thought, there should be efforts to bring the Middle East countries and peoples into the modern era, provide for basic needs and EDUCATION, especially of women– if such were the case, there would be far fewer suicide attackers, and the support for the (despicable) terrorist practices would erode.

We need another Ghandi, while we’re at it.

- Posted by Jo

It’s not the terrorists that worry me as much as our complacence. We’ve been aware of these liquid bombs since ‘94 and have never screened for them because we do not want the inconvenience and the governments want to protect the airlines (money).
This is nothing more than a prime indicator of this generation’s failure to heed the lessons of the past.
We are at war! Not just in the middle east. Terrorists have stated that they’re main purpose is destroy this country. We must alter our lifestyles and put up with the inconveniences that the at-home patriots did in WWII.
The people who were going to carry this plan out are missing the compassion gene and there are many, many more of them already in the U.S.
There is a collective response to catching these sub-humans that we all go “whew, that was a close one.” Instead it should be viewed as a warning…..we are at war!

- Posted by Michael

We understand the increased security measures. In fact, carry-on luggage has returned to an extreme, and should have been limited long ago.
However, to limit medications to what only will be required for the flights, is stupid and dangerous. Two years ago, we flew to Hawaii and the normal 12 hour trip took 27 hours due to NWA computer problems. Additionlly, the airline lost our check-in luggage for several hours. Had we not had our full supply of medications in our carry-on, we would have been in serious jeopardy.

Will we fly again? Not as long as these types of restrictions are in place. They can limit cosmetics, hair gels, drinks, etc… but not meds, and special meals for those with diagnosed dietary restrictions (which the airlines do NOT accomodate)

We are scheuled for another trip to Hawaii in September, and will certainly cancel if these restrictions remain in place. In the mean-time we will stay home and watch our economy go down the toilet. Sadly, if that continues to be the case, the terrorists win!

- Posted by Randy Knack

Business travel is frequently necessary, despite some of the silly comments I’ve seen here. Travel with a laptop computer represents an insurmountable trouble with business air travel. Within Europe, I will now take trains, not for safety, but for reliable and reasonable travel options…because to manage a project, you must be on the ground at least some of the time, and you must have a computer.
Keeping a computer in every location I work would be a joke, and you can’t check a laptop and expect it to have an intact screen on the other end (or to even be there)…never mind the security issues about lost data!
In my mind, airline security has always been more for “image” than reality anyway…and the last few years have been more about creating public fear to enable control than anything else (albeit poorly effected in most cases).

And Pete, being an Ostrich and not interacting with the rest of the world doesn’t resolve anything…grow up.

- Posted by MilneCat

I think that we all need to reconsider our travel needs. I personally feel that your time is up when its up, no metter where you are or what you are doing. If flying is something that scares you…. then look at the death statistics compared to driving. I would be affraid to get behind the wheel if thats the scenario presented to me. Fly if needed… Enjoy life! You could get smacked by a bus today!

- Posted by Derrill

It’s definitely in the airlines’ interests to be more fuel efficient, and new airplanes are being designed with these interests in mind (such as the 787, A350, etc.). Reducing or ceasing air travel altogether to save fuel is an irrational idea, as air travel is indispensable. Get rid of air travel & we’re stepping into a time machine set for 1900, or even earlier because of the economic devastation this would cause. As far as the terrorist situation, the media does not exactly help the matter by sensationalizing everything, most often in a negative light. I see more optimism in these comments than I have seen on the news the past two days. Please do not stop flying. The airlines are so important, and so many of them are already bankrupt or having severe financial troubles. They may have made some mistakes in the past, but can you imagine the world without the freedom to travel? The media needs to cover more people w/ hope and determination than people complaining about waits at the airport. All I see are pictures of devastated travelers in long lines, but what about pictures of hope & determination?? These types of images give the terrorists hope, not the rest of us. The airlines and airports will have to find a solution to not being able to bring things on board the aircraft, but please give them time to come up with this. I believe the current situation is temporary, and will be resolved. Just be thankful no one was on planes that were bombed!

- Posted by Kristen

I fly several times a month and NEVER check anything. The last time I checked a bag, everything was stolen out of it by the time it reached my destination. Consequently, I’ve learned to travel light and fit everything I need into a small carry-on.

If I can’t bring my carry-on, I’ll either drive or renew my pilot’s license. I refuse to fly commercial if it means standing in slow moving ticket lines and checking my bag.

- Posted by Alan

This *IS* a religious war - and it will always be as we have a bible-thumper as a president.

I love to travel, but if I can’t even bring a book or my beloved iPod with me, you can count me out. I hate to hear other people’s screaming children, I hate listening to small talk, and I hate that people are defending the illegal actions of our “leader” as gospel.

Mr. Bush is a close-minded bigot and has created this global climate of fear and terror. Don’t believe me? Well, we could still take water and other creature comforts on planes before he was “elected”. We didn’t have to worry about whether our socks were clean prior to boarding a plane before he took over. Because he has treated the people of the world like the USA is superior in all ways, what do you expect? Love and peace? When your neighbor treats you with a condescending air, how do you like it?

So now, until the Bush administration pulls their heads out (not bloody likely) or someone else comes in and *fixes* things, plane travel is going to be a pain in the arse. I’ll still travel, but I’ll be bitter at the Bush supporters because they have perpetuated the unholy war we’ve waged on…well, everyone.

- Posted by Nobody

No carry on?
I won’t be flying, as I don’t check luggage, and I won’t store my clothes, iPod and laptop in checked luggage.

Easier to drive than tolerate this nonsense.
Non arab looking people aren’t doing this…take a clue TSA, from El Al.

- Posted by Nicole

You don’t really think terrorists care about our opinions, or if we are inconvenienced, or about hair gel and baby formula do you? Their brains are on one single track- kill the infidels, which happens to be us Americans. Eventually all baggage will have to be put on a separate plane. And business and vacation travel will end. Tourism will be a thing of the past. Travel will be for emergencies only. All this will be virtual- thru the internet. Sad, huh. America has got to stop coddling the world and react stronger and more seriously like we mean it.

- Posted by Italiano

I hated flying before, hate it even more now. Before it was just the inconvenience and hassle of the underpaid and poorly trained security, the little to no food, being packed into a cramped and uncomfortable flying cattle car, the strong probability of you making it there before your checked baggage, and the overall mismanagement, disorganization and perpetual screwups of our brilliant domestic carriers. Now this? Three hours to get on a flight? I can see it now… One more foiled plot and we all fly naked. If I can’t sail or take the train, I ain’t goin’. It’s just not worth it.

- Posted by Matt

Let’s make it easier to catch the very real bad guys.

Junkaholics are dangerous.

It is unfair for any one person to have to subsidize the overeating/ neuroses/ poor planning/ organization of another person.

Weigh-in bags AND passengers.
Adult ticket fees by bodyweight. Obesity costs you, so you should pay, not me.

Significant (deterrent value $) additional service fees assessed by carry-on weight.
Result is fewer objects overall= faster screening.

‘Liquids’ are heavy, i.e. expensive, medications are relatively light, i.e. inexpensive.

The ‘babies on planes’ practice has always seemed inherently implausible to me, but the tykes should have their own ticketed seat, for the sanity of Mom if nothing else.

Where possible, fly the adult to the infant.

Child ticketing flat fee.

Publicly & loudly ridicule “those people” on planes with the huge carry-on fetish. Mail the tourist junk home. They’re going to toss/eBay it anyway.

Gotta keep the Laptops- business will find the way there.

Finally, if you can afford all those extra calories for all that time, can’t you afford a bigger seat ???

- Posted by Todd

Airline stocks aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on but it doesn’t have anything to do with a terror threat.

However, if you don’t fly, they win.

- Posted by Eckert

I am terrified of flying now. After 9/11 I could barlely leave my house. I am scared to go on a bus as well. Why would people target airplanes and not buses?

These new security measures make me feel safer. I saw on the news that there are military personnel patrolling in the airport with rifiles and I think that is a good idea. We should have them on trains and buses as well.

We need to show the terrorists we have resolved. I think we shouild set up a curfew for people as well and check random cars that are going on major freeways for explosives and weapons.

I am scared that the terrorists will obtain a nuclear weapon or virus that will kill all of us. I am praying we spend enough money on defense and can hold down other counties from attacking us.

We need more troops in countries that are not our friends to make sure people don’t escape and come an attack us on our own soil.

- Posted by Richard Welch

Our reaction to terrorism is exactly what the terrorists want, distruption of our freedoms.
What we need is a globally funded effort similar to the US space program to invest in innovation around making our lives safer.
This is not just a technology issue, but needs to include multi-level education on a broad scale, security process re-engineering and standardization among other efforts.
All free people need to be active in this effort. Paying taxes to a government to handle this isn’t enough. We all need to be more involved to help our governments help us be safer.
In the short term this will involve a certain level of sacrifice on our part, but in the long term it will mean a greater level of freedom and peace for all of us. But it take years for this to happen.

- Posted by tom

Richard_Welch: you cannot be serious.

I think you seriously need to go buy or rent
V for Vendetta on DVD RIGHT now!
Please!

- Posted by Nicole

oh no! Richard, your post scares me more than the terrorists do.

I understand your fear, but you have got to overcome it. As an American (or anyone in a “free” country), it’s your duty to stay strong. I hate to be cliche, but “the only thing we have to fear is fear itself,” right?

People like you add up to the terrorists winning. Look at that! They don’t even have to bomb the planes to win…

As someone said earlier, it’s statistically VERY improbable that anything will happen to you in a plane. There are THOUSANDS of flights everyday & only a handful of incidents occur ever year & only one or two may result in deaths. Even w/ a dozen planes being bombed, the statistics are STILL low. What scares all of you into the idea not to fly anymore is that it’s SENSATIONALIZED. If you heard about every single time someone died in a car crash, you’d NEVER drive.

Also, the airlines do have a duty, as well, to come up with a way to make this less harsh on passengers. If it bothers you so much, start sending them (nice) emails with suggestions on how to make this all work better. If you think you could all do a better job, start writing!! I work in customer service, and I promise you, with enough (rational and respectful) complaints and suggestions, things WILL and DO change.

- Posted by Kristen

Dear Mr. Richard Welch,
Regarding your comment that “We need more troops in countries that are not our friends . . .”
I believe putting our troops in countries that are not “our friends” is called WAR.
If you are so scared, I assume you never signed up to serve in uniform, eh? Just want other folks to do, huh?

- Posted by Joe McAnally

Airport Threat and Security: Preparation for next elections. Scare the heck out of Americans so they will vote for Republicans to secure the country.

For my fellow Americans: Let’s tell our govt. to stop killing arabs and muslims for oil and power and they will stop hating us.

- Posted by Mark

Wait, you can’t bring a paperback book on board? That’s idiotic!

- Posted by J.D.

This is ridiculous. If the West were to disengage and stop meddling in the affairs of other nations, this would all eventually die down and we could return to normal lives. The gauntlet at airports is a vexing pain. I am old enough to remember when you just sauntered onto the plane. All of this is a tar baby of the West’s own making. We’ve shot our own selves in the foot and have ourselves to blame. Stop meddling and we will be left alone.

- Posted by Juri

We have forgotten that historically both domestic and international business was transacted without cell phones, laptops, nor airplanes. Some of those deals were indeed historical events and the written letters and documents now carefully archived as evidence that human endeavors need not be dependent on technology.

Documents were drafted, finished & polished then sent by courier(even overnighted). When meetings were necessary, we boarded a plane without stress nor luggage in hand. Perhaps the best result from the increased security regs is the return to a more sane way of doing business.

- Posted by Eva

Derrill says: “Fly if needed Enjoy life! You could get smacked by a bus today!”
I add: “Or get bitten by the right ‘wrong’ mosquito. Or gunned down by the perfectly gentlemanly neighbor next door that could ‘never ever do that kind of thing.’ As Derril says, “…your time is up when its up, no [matter] where you are or what you are doing.” Live LIFE! Tommorow, like yesterday, is not valid in today’s equation. What you hand and what you will ever have is this moment and if you throw it away, you throw yourself away. Arg you garbage, or are you human. Which ever, at least act like you had good sense.

- Posted by William C.B.

I won’t fly if I have to check my camera equipment. It would be destroyed or stolen. So I will drive or not go at all. Besides, my last trip (july to Alaska and back) was a nightmare due to small seats anyway. It used to be fun to fly, not any more.

- Posted by Barb

Can anyone explain to me how carrying an already-inspected book or magazine onto a flight presents some sort of security risk in the first place?

- Posted by ChuckD

Firstly, there should be an age limit for flying. Traveling with infant spawn is inconsiderate and about as annoying as anything I’ve ever experienced. I completely agree with the airlines in limiting carry-on luggage, and quite frankly, my hope is that it’s banned, altogether.

- Posted by Chris

It’s not the terrorist threat that has kept me from flying since 9/11, it’s the Gestapo treatment you get from the jack-asses at the airport, like stealing anything liquid because it “might” be used to make an explosive. There are many things solid which might be used to make an explosive, so shouldn’t we be prohibiting anything solid (or gaseous), too?

In fact, to really make things safe, let’s ban passengers from the airplanes. That should keep them safe.

- Posted by JD

I am worried over the no carry on luggage rule. I do not want to check in my laptop, nor do I suspect carriers want to be obligated to not crush laptops and have a claim put against them.

- Posted by Ralph

I don’t understand all these harse comments regarding carry on. Yes they should more strictly enforce size and weight limits, but ban them outright?

Sorry, I’ve seen to many family members have their check in luggage ‘disapear’ into thin air. Don’t even get me started on valuables missing from compartments. There is no way I’m trusting any of my expensive electronics to the baggage handlers.

How about those 10+ hour flights? Good luck staying entertained with the terrible inflight movies. And food, if you want to get violently ill be my guest and sustain yourself with inflight meals on a transatlantic flight.

People who behave like cowards and fear flying are not only being irrational, (flying is the safest mode of travel bar none) they are letting the terrorists accomplish their mission. To scare you & to change your way of life. In one year I’ll be travelling to Turkey, a Muslim Country on the border of Iraq. I’m not scared in the least, not of the terrorists anyway. The draconian and increasingly unreasonable measures taken by the airports is the only thing I’m afraid of.

- Posted by Joe

To all of you who just can’t ‘understand’ why anyone would need to carry such ‘useless’ stuff as books, hand sanitizer, or babies on an airplane -

hello!?! Try sitting on a plan for 5+ hours with nothing to read or having to prepare for a meeting the next day (which you weren’t able to do the night before because your kids were sick and you had to sleep so you could get up for your 6 am flight).

And with families living distances apart traveling without an infant could be next to impossible, which means bringing along such ‘needless’ stuff like diapers and toys.

Plus, some of us have special needs and can’t find just any shampoo in Middleofnowhere USA, or may need to adjust our contact lenses at 30k feet. Or may need to clean our hands because the lavatory is out of soap (I’ve seen this a lot on planes).

I’m all for better security but perhaps we’ve gone too far? The terrorist thugs will only find a way to work around this at the expense of our comfort.

The real effort should continue to focus on counterterrorism intelligence where we can track town these guys before they hit the planes. It worked this time….

- Posted by SavvyGal

This is nothing more than a plot by the nudists to force everyone to fly naked.

- Posted by DS

They didn’t find any actual bombs in London,
not even any explosive material. And now they are
confiscating our water, apparently just to punish
us travellers? I cannot read anything from this
except that it would be more convenient for the
US government if nobody travelled at all.

- Posted by rmark

The airlines will more than make up for any lost revenues by dramatically speeding boarding/exiting airplanes by banning carry-on luggage. One of the most annoying things about flying is this tendency by both the Beverly Hillbillies types and the arrogant business ass types to try to carry on their entire wardrobe and “electronic office,” cluttering the aisles for 20-30 minutes as they try to cram it all in whatever space is available anywhere on the plane.
The ban MUST include laptops, which are an incredibly obvious place to hide these undetectable explosives (think about the spare battery pack) and any electronic items which could be used to spark or remotely detonate an explosive. At least getting rid of cell phones will also get rid of those annoying personal calls one is subjected to up to the last moment and beginning at the first possible moment allowed. There’s no need to call till you get to the terminal.

- Posted by Doc

Interesting thread, lots of loonies, some considered opinions. Me I will fly any day of the week, international, domestic, care less. Am I scared? Nope, worried? Not in the least. Blowing up airplanes, cafes, busses has never won a ground war, simply annoys a great deal of people and hardens resolve. In the 3000 some odd years the Middle East has been “civilized” what have they done for themselves lately? Missed the Industrial revolution, most are missing out on the digital revolution. If you want to see religion in action review the middle ages and examine the catholic churches hold on power and what they did to maintain that hold. While the current world leading countries grew up and put that behind them the middle east continues to stay mired in corruption, greed and under the control powerful Iman’s. We can’t leave them be because they have to much money and want to tear down what they don’t believe in on the basis of religious zeal. Didn’t work in the dark ages, shouldn’t work now. I love the suggestions to “fix” it so that no more terrorists are created, how pray tell? An outside agency can not change a people, the US can depose a strong man but the rank and file folks continue to tolerate lawbreaking and mass murder. Until the people themselves decide to change their country we will just continue to pour the lives of our young into a useless war, that we shouldn’t have started in the first place.

Just my humble opinion.

- Posted by Craig

Mark, remember Munich’38?

- Posted by Alex

Chris - “infant spawn?” I suppose you are not, nor ever intend to be, a parent, nor has your employer ever moved you overseas to another job, with your family? Not like there are many international passenger liners sailing these days…and if you check your map, you’ll find it difficult to drive across the Atlantic or Pacific. There are times when those of us who have chosen to be parents wind up having to travel with our children - by aircraft.

No, I wonder if the whole thing is just to make it so hard to travel by airplane that total air hours declines, thus reducing use of scarce oil. Of course, the “trusted travellers” (any bets this program idea will soon resurface in force?) will be able to breeze on board, with a separate “small check on” luggage compartment available (for an added fee, of course) that will deliver your “carry on” to you as you walk away from the aircraft. The rest of us will have to suck up the harrassment if we want to fly. Any sign passenger rail is roaring back to life here in the USA? Nope. What about buses? Used to be two US wide companies, basically: Greyhound and Trailways. Now only one, and the dog keeps dropping routes. Get used to restricted travel, folks. It seems to be what the powers that be want to impose upon us all. (Except themselves, of course…)

- Posted by A Dad

Re:SavvyGirl: *Of course* let everyone carry whatever they want. Let Ramzi Yousef’s disciples carry their bottles of ‘contact lens solution’ and ‘hand soap’ so you can have a nice relaxing flight free from the unimaginable hassle of uncomfortable contact lenses and chapped hands. I wouldn’t bet on actually getting to your destination though.
Quit whining about minor discomforts. Do you think Palistinain mothers are reaching for their hand sanitizer when American made missiles are raining down upon their children?

- Posted by Padraig

I usually prefer driving, just to see the country and to be able to say I’ve driven from here to there, like from Tampa, Florida to St Louis, Missouri. The planes are a bit cramped when they’re seating you three across. I would really resent being frisked by airport security. When I drive, the “cabin” is roomier, and you don’t have to wait for the pilot to bank and hope you’re on the correct side of the plane for the view. Yes, flying is quicker — more time to enjoy your destination, but getting there CAN be half the fun. On July 25th 2005, I was driving through Georgia and they were playing CHRISTMAS music for their “Christmas in July” event. Kinda crazy, ( I know it would drive some people nuts ) but it was fun, too.

I know El Al has very tough security. I guess people there know what could happen and are willing to go through the third degree so their flight is safe. I guess Americans who use that airline are also willing to tolerate whatever it takes to comply with El Al’s regulations.

For me, it’s not the fear of flying, it’s the inconvenience, some of it existing BEFORE September 11th.

- Posted by Carla

I forgot to mention that once you get to your destination by air, you get to go to baggage claim and sweat out whether your luggage made it. I flew out of New Mexico in the late 70’s. Final destination was Virginia. Had to change flights in El Paso, TX. Lady at ticket counter in New Mexico asked me if I was going to El Paso. I said yes. THAT’S where my luggage was sent! Had to wear my sister’s clothes while on vacation in Virginia. Hey, she asked me if I was going to El Paso. I was. Besides, she HAD my ticket in her hand. Couldn’t she tell what my FINAL destination was?

- Posted by Carla

People who don’t travel a lot may not understand that people on flights that last for one or two days need things like toothpaste and shampoo. Airline check in luggage still does not arrive often enough to be sure of having toiletries and other necessities on arrival. Of even more concern is the fact that airlines do not stock enough water for passengers on long flights. I have a serious concern about not being allowed to pack my own water… perhaps some “security cleared” water and toiletries could be made available at airports. I travel for work and need to fly, sometimes for up to two days on planes/airports, etc. I am likely to seek other means of travel for vacation purposes, such as overland or ocean.

- Posted by CAM

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