The road just got rockier for Hillary Clinton in her battle to win her party’s presidential nomination after Barack Obama’s victory in North Carolina and her slim win in Indiana.
“It’s full speed on to the White House,” Clinton said at a victory rally in Indianapolis, with her husband, former President Bill Clinton, standing behind her. “We’ve got a long road ahead, but we’re going to keep fighting.”
But Clinton made some conciliatory noises. “I can assure you as I have said on many occasions, that no matter what happens, I will work for the nominee of the Democratic Party … and I know that Senator Obama feels the same way,” she said.
Should Clinton drop out of the race for the Democratic nomination?
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Barack Obama is, by almost every measure and by almost every unmeasurable impression, on the precipice of being able to declare victory and have his declaration be accepted by the media and his party. Hillary Clinton needed to find a way to give superdelegates their “Holy Moly” moment, and she failed. Absent an extraordinary intervening event, the question for Hillary Clinton now is how she ends the race. We had enough of Bill, Chelsea and Hillary…Hillary Clinton, show the nation, you really care, it’s time for you to drop out..It’s over for you Hillary Queen!!!! Can’t you get it…
- Posted by AliOught too, but wont!
- Posted by peter hindrupHillary is on a crusade. Driven by a vision of herself on the steps of the Whitehouse, crown awry.
No price,no sacrifice is to big, just so that she attains the dream.
Yes.
She has valiantly fought as the odds turned against her earlier this year, however it was not enough. It’s virtually impossible for her to win even by rewriting the DNC rules she agreed to.
Her party needs her to publicly acknowledge Obama has won and begin to campaign against their real opponent John McCain.
She has earned respect of many for her strength and commitment and now she has a chance to be successful by helping Barack become the next president.
- Posted by CTBut Hllary you’re smart enough..Don’t you realize the dream is over??
It’s simple, and it goes like this: Without black voters, there is no big-city Democratic Party run by pink guys in blue suits. Black voters would feel betrayed and rightly so. With Obama leading in the popular vote and the delegate count, party officials would have to be out of their minds to consider any other alternative than Obama.
Hillary must know that the Democratic bosses, who are expert in calculating gender and race, have calculated against her.
What’s left is the counting. It’s great to be determined,tough and gritty but you have to be smarter and gracious to be a president. Hillary, don’t behave like a kid, who want candy at any cost. You’re better than that. It’s over Hillary. It’s done. Come on out now.
- Posted by JohnYes, Yes, Yes….
- Posted by gkr ctHillary appears to be behaving like a kid who having realized that she cannot get what she wants, why not I spoil for my opponent. She and the rest of the Clinton family are doing John McCain a favor with all their antics. If she really cares for her party and the country, it is time she stepped away rather than go wah-wah…
- Posted by Manoj“Her party needs her to publicly acknowledge Obama has won…”
So he has won the required delegates?
No?
Should the Super Bowl have ended at the 2 minute warning, thus giving the Patriots the win?
Obama has not won, yet. To insist that he has is nonsense.
- Posted by Bob SakowskiIts clear to most people that Hillary has virtually no chance of winning….I hope she stops damaging the Democratic Party and quits the race today!
- Posted by JakeIt is abundantly clear that she has lost the race. She should do the honourable thing and rsign.
- Posted by JakeShe should have dropped out long ago! Instead of looking like she cares about the Democratic party and the Country, she’s showing she only cares about herself and the Clinton legacy.
- Posted by JosephBI definitely think she should stay in the race and fight harder than ever….and spend LOTS of MONEY now…. the more the better!
- Posted by GRIt’s come down to a tight race. The idea of super delegates is a further deviation from Democracy, it’s a bad idea. In a race too close to be decided by the delegates the decision should be left to the popular vote, and the looser should be Vice President.
- Posted by William LintsI think the time has come for Hilary to step out of the race and start working for the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party needs to start solidifying behind one candidate (which is clearly Obama) and assist him in campaigning against the Republican nominee, which is what should be happening already. The split, which is not beneficial for the Democratic Party, nor the U.S. is being escalated by Hilary’s constant refusal to acknowledge she has lost. She was a good contender and she gave a good fight, but she needs to think of something beyond her own desire for the Presidency now. John McCain already has a start on us, because he doesn’t have to work against his own party, which is what Hilary is doing. She needs to just let it go and start working for the Democratic Party and not just herself.
- Posted by BeckyClinton and her campaign people are bunch of liars..
- Posted by JohnThey made a big hype that they got $10 million after her PA win. They have no fund left now..She may loan herself another $5 million to continue…Her campaign is over..Kid..move on..
No, she shout make the way free for Sen. Obama. Fact is that:a) she won´t be able to catch up with Sen.Obama; b) she could not bring up new, important Issue so to cempete
- Posted by Jean Michel Nehmewith him; she is getting bitter, nastier & unfair towards
Obama & the Dem-party; c) she is broke; d) she is worn
out; & e) she is getting unfair towards herself, her family, her team & the Democrats. This is hurting her
& Obama´s Supporters/Voters.
So Hillary. Just say Goodbye!
The only reason Hillary won the Indiana primary was due to the votes of Republicans who were participating in “Project Chaos.” Hillary needs to drop out now for the benefit of the party/country/world. It is impossible for her to win. Her craven need for power is repulsive.
- Posted by Steve Tyle“..and the loser should be VP..”
Are you insane? You’re replacing the bad idea of delegates with an even worse one! The candidate get’s to choose his or her running mate, not the people. The people get to choose who they want running the Country. We’ve already seen what happens when common folk are allowed to vote. We get 8 years of Bush/Cheney! Forget democracy, its not working.
- Posted by JosephBYes, she must stop now. otherwise she make a fool out of her self and her party
- Posted by Peter AlbekOne notes that the focus of Clinton’s campaign has been “me” and “I”. Despite any damage inflicted by her continuation of the the campaign, she will most likely continue her run.
- Posted by Carlos G.It’s Cinderella, but Hillary has got her character wrong.
- Posted by Alfred MoeskerShe thought she was getting the part of Cinderella because she was related to the wicked king.
Instead she has not read the screenplay…. in this play she is one of the evil stepdaughters..
Obama on the other hand is Cinderella….and the North Carolina pumpkin turned into a golden carriage, which is taking him speedily to meet Prince Nomination.
Just leaves me wondering if Bill Clinton was the frog in this story…………????
Yes. Now. She shouldn’t make all those superdelegates emphasize their differences by choosing sides. Democrats need to be on one team. Does she want to pull a Nader on us? Time for her to promote the greater good.
- Posted by wYes, Hillary Clinton should drop out of the race……only when all the Democrats agree that John McCain is our next president. With all due respect to Senator Obama, he has not proven that he can win big states where African Americans constitute lower percentage of the voting population. To fellow democrats, god! stop judging and vilyfying Obama or Clinton. Focus on the issue and not on the person.
- Posted by WolverineIt is time for Senator Hillary Clinton to show she cares about her country and accept the reality that Senator Barack Obama has almost won. Changing rules of the game will hurt the Democratic Party in November. Senator clinton and her advisors need to think about the general election and at this point arrange a media confrence and declare that Senator Obama as the winner and put all of thier unconditional support behiind Obama’s candidacy. I hope they will listen to the reason.
- Posted by Bram RoumiShe should quit but she won’t. Her ego (and her husband’s) drives her campaign at the expense of all other considerations. It comes down to the super delegates and I have a question for them — that if the answer is what I think it is — should be taken into account. How many Clinton voters in Texas and Indiana were “Operation Chaos” crossovers? Please don’t discount Right Wing Radio’s influence. It is interesting that a CNN poll showed that a third of Clinton voters in both Indiana and North Carolina would vote for McCain if Obama got the nomination. Could it be that a large portion of that group will vote McCain in November no-matter-what?
- Posted by Daniel BonhamNO she is the only one who can beat McCaine. obama get 92% black vote he can not win clinton voters a good part will not vote for obama. they will go with McCain they can stand 4 more years of bad government. clinton can wait .
- Posted by denaI believe the true depth of bitterness in this race will only be appreciated later in the year, but for now — polling in the last couple of months amongst Clinton and Obama supporters suggests a non-negligible percentage in either camp will bolt if their favorite horse falters. I am a white male Clintonista and usually vote straight-ticket Democrat, but I am prepared to vote McCain and send troops to the Middle East for 100 years before I will send Obama to the White House for 4.
- Posted by Johnny C.i think she should stay in and be credited for florida and michigan…she has the record to make a great president….i feel that this race has turned into a racist mess…..if she does not win the nomination i will vote for mccain
- Posted by jessSimply said, yes. The only way she can win is by tearing Obama down. That’s no way for a Democrat to win an primary election.
- Posted by SocratesI do think Hillary has tried valiantly and was a very promising candidate. However I think she could have acknowledged that Obama was the better one in January or February. As much as she knows this is probably her only shot at running for president, I think she realises that there is only a slim chance she will get the nomination. As for being the first women president, the fact that she got this far proves that women definitely have a chance to become president.
Obama is likely to at least have a 150 delegate lead or more when getting the last primary on June 3rd. He is gaining the backing of superdelegates twice as fast as Hillary and by June will likely have the support of quite a few more superdelegates than Hillary.
The only argument that Hillary has to support her continued struggle is that a large number of her supporters won’t vote for Obama in the presidential election.
As a non-american intently following this nomination, I would have to say either candidate would probably do a good job. But Obama I think might have more of the guts to actually change the direction the US has been heading in for the past few years.
- Posted by NikoThe decision should be made right now by the superdelegates: Obama for the nomination.
- Posted by Brian PhillipsWhether we all realize it or not, the last thing this country needs is a continuation of the aristocracy we’ve had to endure for the last 20 years. No one is entitled to be our president. We forgot that for far too long.
comparing Hilary to a Kid overly simplifies the matter.
- Posted by MTThis kid is using the same type of fear tactics as
Bush, which attracts the ignorant masses (hope I do not sound elitist). Thus it puts doubts in the minds come election time.
It is a primitive tactic borrowed from a number of totalitarian countries.
If Hilary Clinton had an ounce of leadership left in her, she would bow out gracefully rather than drag her party through to what is now a foregone conclusion: Obama is going to win the Democratic nomination.
If she ewere to thrown in the towel now, I think that most people would then admire her for the pure conviction and competitive spirit she has consistently shown rather than the mean-minded and win-at-all-costs attitude that threatens her future and the legacy she hopes to leave in America.
Everyone has their blind spots; Hilary Clinton’s is not knowing when to give up and move on. Her sense of entitlement around the nomination is starting to wear on voters.
- Posted by John D.While I think it would be best for her and the party to drop out now, I can understand why she continues to keep going. It’s more than clear to eveyone that Obama will win the nomination, including Hillary. But you guys, it’s only three more weeks until all the primaries are wrapped up, so let her continue to go on so that she can finish the race. She is a fighter, this is her motto, the very thing that has driven her to continue to battle it out to the very end. She’s not going to quit. It has to be a very bitter pill for her to swallow because she really wanted to be President. She knows it’s over, and as long as she ceases to come out negative against Obama and further hurt his chances to be elected, I don’t see any harm in her continuing for the next three weeks. I do pray that she does not try to take this battle all the way to the convention and gracefully bows out after the last primary in June. She knows it’s over, and I think she just needs a little more time to let this sink in. Continuing to campaign these next three weeks will help her concentrate on other things while coming to terms that she will not be the nominee. Just let her finish the race- it was hard fought and she deserves the right to do so.
- Posted by American Military FamilyClinton’s played all their dirty politic & games to beat OBAMA but they failed. They know that, the whole world know that. Hillary now get out and let this great candidate OBAMA win the white house for us.
- Posted by shaliniABSOLUTELY
- Posted by GlenOf course she should, but then again were talking about Hillary, somehow she thinks if she changes the rules, changes her campaign slogans, slimes, cajola’s, and basically could hope for a meteor to drop on Obama she would use any means to win. Even when there isn’t any mathmatical way for her to win.
- Posted by Sue FilutzeSomeone in the DNC with some cajonas needs to take her aside and whisper, THE FAT LADY HAS SUNG ALREADY!
hillary, hillary, go away, don’t come back another day
- Posted by tomThis is Barack Obama’s appointment with destiny and Hillary Clinton should just gacefully step aside before she is swallowed up by the jaws of defeat.
- Posted by James (London England)Clinton and ‘dillusion’ team…please drop out. for the sake of democratic [party..for the sake of US…and for the sake of World. We need Obama to inspire the democrats, unite this nation and heal the WORLD…
- Posted by JohnYes, Clinton needs to drop out for the good of the Democratic party. A true politician who wants to see her party succeed would do so. Otherwise, she is just in it for her own personal glory.
- Posted by W. Gravelyfor those who cite the example of the 2 min warning at the superbowl: this is NOT the superbowl > this is more like the team selection stage > the superbowl, if you wish, is in november. You do not want to damage your own team so bad that the other side wins the finals!
- Posted by AzmatShe needs to just stop. We get it, you want to prove you’re a fighter, but every minute she stays in the race, the more damage she does to the Democratic party and the country. She needs to stop crying like a 5 year old girl and just give Obama her support and let this country repair itself in 2009.
- Posted by justinIt’s funny how it is a forgone conclusion that Obama won. We still have the matter of Florida and Michigan to resolve. So the voters of Florida and Michigan do not count. Disenfranchise millions of voter - looks to me like Bush tactic. So much for Democratic Party. If Hillary is forced by the party boss to stop the campaign, we should just name John McCain the president and get it over with.
Fight on Hillary!!!
- Posted by JoeyIt’s been a good contest, but the time has come for Hillary to step aside and get
- Posted by Rich in MN.on-board the Obama train. At this point she is no longer helping the country or her party. If she continues on, her reasoning can only be personal and elections are not about individuals.
Very simple… Obama has won! The Party will give her a day or so to gather herself, concede defeat, before forcing her out.
- Posted by EdNo, as long as Hillary is winning states and critical voters are strongly supporting her candidacy, she should not drop out of the race. She should exit the race ONLY when Obama has “on his own won” the required number of delegates. It may be inevitable but that has not happened as yet no matter how the spin is presented or how much people may dislike Hillary. This is a democracy and whether we like or dislike someone that should not dictate their actions for running for the Presidency of the US. Many races and other situations turn when we least expect it. The process will run its course and the democratic party will show it resilience and rally around the nominee. It’s so interesting the “ire” displayed with a female running for President. The emotion seems somewhat displaced given the typical turmoil that occurs in US elections.
- Posted by M BakerNope.
Clinton and Obama can and would fight all the way to the day before Election day if they were able too. I think its great and funny to watch, although it is beyond boring.
Go Republican (Not thrilled by McCain, but he’s better then these other two)
- Posted by Johnny McDreamyNo she shouldn’t drop out. The race is still too close. It would be unfair to her supporters.
- Posted by JenniferYes
She needs to drop out. Remember when both candidates agreed to go along with the DNC’s decision to have the primaries in MI and FL not count? Now she has changed her story because she is losing. Give me a break. It’s over.
- Posted by EricI think Hillary should withdraw. On the surface super delegates are clearly a bad idea and not democratic. But with the Clinton campaign you see why there are super delegates. Republicans who want a weaker democratic opponent are voting for Hillary. Republican PAC’s have been paying for advertising against and attacking both Obama and Edwards since the campaigns started. If you are an independent, a democrat or a thinking Republican, ask yourself why the Republican party and Republican PAC’s want Hillary to win?
- Posted by RobertHilary is drive by the knowledge that she can spin the Super Delegates into voting for her. Either through illegal/inappropriate methods such as bribery and threats, or through the influence of her husband. As long as she hangs in until then, she should be able to pin enough negativity on Obama that when the times come these delegates won’t have a choice.
- Posted by SaxophoneGODBarack Obama is not qualified for the job of President of the United States and if he gets the nominations, it is a very sad day. Mr. Obama talks well but America needs an experienced, grounded person with real solutions. He hasn’t actually talked about actual solutions.
Voters in Florida and Michigan should not be screwed just because party leaders didn’t follow the script to the letter.
Fight on Hillary. So many people are counting on you.
- Posted by truth diggI sincerely hope that Senator Clinton continues to fiight and let teh junior Senator form Illinois go back to work for a while. He may be rady
Ok… obviously Hillary has big plans, both for herself and the country. I seriously doubt she is malicious and evil as everyone would like to believe. Is it possible to be passionate and want to be the best leader of this country. Is it so wrong to compete. The nomination process does not include rules that state if you are losing then you need to drop out. It does not state if someone gives a better speech then you should drop out. People, Hillary has the right message for this country. She obviously disagrees with what Obama wants for this country and how to go about getting results. That is why she is fighting so hard for the nomination. She believes stongly that she’s the best choice and is fighting to make sure we get it. Hillary please don’t stop. Take this all the way to the convention. It’s part of the nomination process. Don’t listen to people who tell you to quit. I believe in you and the dream you have for this country.
- Posted by MattThe loss of what some think is her last chance is going to take a fe hours to sink in. I don’t see Hillary continuing beyond June …. by which time the maths will be impossible, the Supers would have backed Obama in large numbers, her loyal advisers would have broken the news to her ….Good job Wes Clark - a true General and man of courage
- Posted by JakeI think B.O. should drop out of the race. Hillary should stay in the race and she should keep fighting the oil money B.O. has received.
- Posted by JimWe should all think about where does B.O. get his big money? Where does his money come from? If he receives big money from the big oil company, it is the American people who will suffer.
- Posted by JimI love the country Hillary lives in ….it has all 50 states in it … if anyone cannot see how ruthless obama is by blocking not one but two states from participating in the primary then enjoy the high prices at the pump next time you pull up .. because you voted for the guy that voted for cheneys energy bill , has no intention of going up against the oil cartels ( think about that ), so if Hillary wants to spend her money to let people know there is still someone in this country who cares about the people in it then by all means I say please dont stop Hillary while she still has ANY CHANCE if helping the people of this country .. and the next time you pull up to the pump .. thank obama for the price you pay …..because it wil only get worse
- Posted by SwannieIt’s so obvious that she can not make it, I don;t know why she still sticking to the idea of going on. . I guess she is just waiting if Michigan and Florida delegates fall into her lap.
- Posted by GillBy dragging this fight on she is compromising the respect Bill has gained working so hard to attain it.
Not saying the election is a done deal for Obama, but I think for the sake of the Democratic Party HRC needs to drop. Already I see commentary of how people will vote McCain if Obama wins. Wrong answer people. Her stubbornness and ego are just making the Republican Party that much stronger and your jumping ship doesn’t help. The divisive-primary procedure has already hurt political elections in the past and it will do so now. Her “gas tax holiday” is a gimmick and her threatening of OPEC is a laugh. Nice to dismiss economists Hillary, since apparently you know more than them since you know, that’s what they’ve been doing for decades. Obliterate Iran? Do you really want to piss off the Middle East that much more? Honestly Hillary, what on Earth are you going to do to intimidate OPEC that three decades worth of presidents haven’t tried? I’ll take a man with a proposition to talk to dictators (yes it’s iffy but has a little merit) over someone who makes bold and most likely illogical threats against Iran and OPEC.
Also, numbers do not lie. Even if Hillary presses on the likelihood of her actually overcoming Obama is near nothing. Superdelegates are already casting their votes for Obama and the end seems near. So Hillary, I respect you for your accomplishments and all, but please end this torture. Whoever cited the Super Bowl is an idiot, and I’m a Patriots fan saying this. Also some of these comments saying Hillary should stay show a serious lack of logic and/or English skills.
- Posted by ColinIf Clinton continues now her drive will feed a delusion emphasisized by her inability to foresee defeat.For the sake of her party and Obamas chances in November she must drop out. A wedge is being driven between her supporters and Obamas. Hillary will lose her credibility as a Democrat where her pitiful greed is blurring the reality of Obamas inevitable victory.
- Posted by conor feeneyThe big oil companies and other special interest groups want to put B.O. in the White House so they can continue their big gain. This should be stopped!! Hillary Clinton should stay in the race. Wake up American people!!
- Posted by JimClinton reminds me of the Captain of the Titanic who ordered full steam ahead despite the obvious danger of sinking and taking the dems with her. If McCain wins in November she’ll have to take alot of heat.
- Posted by ChrisDoes B.O. get his big money from ordinary American citizens like you and me? NO!!!! He got his money from special interest groups. We should elect someone who is not willing to receive such dirty political money. B.O. has more money to spend than Hillary and McCain combined! Beware of the big oil money!! American people! Stand up again the international big oil!!!
- Posted by Jim@ Jim… 5:02 and 5:00 YOU have no idea of what you are speak. You need to do some research about the DLC and who they are - of the which Hillary and Bill (and Al gore) are all members. They call themselves the “new” Democrats. What’s new? They are all supported by big business, the oil cartels and the war machine manufacturers.
Yes, Hillary needs to stop he charade as a Democrat and go back to the Republican party where she started with Goldwater. She is what is now called a neoliberal - just as bad as a neocon.
Do some research.
By the way, Obama is not a member of the DLC. Refuses to be a part of it.
- Posted by MizuInOzListen, B.O. from Illinois! If you are sincere about changing the American politics, stop being a liar and please return to your conscience. Did you start your career as a cunning politician, that is willing to recieve dirty money from dirty oil companies? Change yourself first before talking about changing others.
- Posted by Jimyes,yes,yes and fast too
- Posted by jacksonYep…time for Clinton to come to senses..Look at the demographic she has with her..65+ older people, non-educated blue collar workers…nothing against these groups..but this shows educated people who understand what is going on here and youth who are the future of this nation are not on her side..
- Posted by JohnJim…please do a little more research. BO is not getting this money from big oil company..BO has infact revolutionise the system and getting most of the money from grass root people like us…through his website..$25 or more…That’s what Clinton didn’t learn..and when she realized the power of small contribution, it was too late for her..You dont expect much innovation from old politics..Do you?
- Posted by JohnIs this about the good of the country? Is this about the good of the party? You’ve said you and Senator Obama agree on more than you disagree about. This is, unquestionably, a very tough concession, but what is left to be accomplished by fighting on now? Please make that clear or let’s move the real process forward.
- Posted by FCPYes.
And get a smaller mouth and less bouffant hair to make herself look more presentable.
- Posted by Tom Morgan“Barack Obama is not qualified for the job of President of the United States and if he gets the nominations, it is a very sad day. Mr. Obama talks well but America needs an experienced, grounded person with real solutions.”
Do you know one?
- Posted by ChadYes, Hillary should concede for the good of the Party. She needs to concede now, in order to allow her supporters time to reconsider, and support the obvious nominee. Convincing the Party to count Michigan and Florida is a waste of time. Would Hillary really be advocating such a move if the votes did not support her? No, so it’s really not about disenfranchisement.
If Hillary takes her quest to be President to the convention floor, the Democrats will lose any post convention bounce in the polls, along with the boost in donations. This is because Hillary’s supporters will be bitter about losing the nomination, even though it has already been lost.
Since the general election will likely be close, the Democrats cannot afford to lose any potential advantage or benefit associated with having a great convention.
- Posted by RobertA big yes. No more political dynasties. They tend to turn family
- Posted by samfeuds into open warfare.
Read this interesting article:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jld3V ILFDbEY6uciu_lp_YgBnGqwD90GT09G0
Another proof Clinton and their campaign people are liar..the big hype of collecting $10 millions in 1 night after PA win are all lie. She loaned earlier $ 5 million. Now she loaned around and after PA win another $ 6.4 million. Total Debt = $ 11.4 millions..
As per this article,”A campaign aide said Clinton gave her campaign another $5 million on April 11, more than a week before the Pennsylvania primary. She then again dipped into her personal wealth for $1 million last week and $425,000 on Monday, one day before the North Carolina and Indiana primaries”
I have only one Q - How can I trust you running a nation when you can’t run your campaign??
Bill and Hillary, time for you to go for speaking assignment and writing books to get back those lost money!!!! The title of book could be, ” Race to Presidency 2008 - We almost made it till this fella showed up?”
- Posted by AliWatch DemocracyNow! today. Amy Goodman interviews Bill Moyer regarding many interesting experiences in the changes in Journalism, but more importantly asked this question:
Is Hillary staying in this race now because she wants the role of Presidency which means she must continue to attack Sen. Obama weakening the Party.
It is becoming more and more apparent that in my humble opinion she is on an ego high that has blurred what is right for her to do.
I do not want someone to be my President who thinks more of self and ego than change for us all, you, me and the billions I shall never meet…this country the USA.
Watch the Wednesday, May 7th DemocracyNow! program. It will open your eyes. Thank you Bill Moyers!
- Posted by julichvyasdiObama has as much experience as Lincoln. Learn a little history.
- Posted by samIf Mr. Obama wants to show voters he has the experience and vision to lead the country he will negotiate an exit strategy with Hillary and get it done quickly. It’s a kind of politics 101 move. If he can’t pass 101 he sure isn’t ready for Grad School
- Posted by brucePassion aside, the remaining states are Clinton’s to lose. Lots of aged voters, lots of blue-collar whites, no sizable black population, no caucuses - in other words, no chance for Obama to win. So, in the run-up to the convention, the news will be “Another win for Hillary” all the way. And then, there are Florida and Michigan that will almost surely go to McCain if not represented in Denver - and Hillary has 200+ delegates from these “big swing states” vs. 0 to Obama. And then, it’s possible to win some primaries on the strength of the black vote, but much less so general election. So there’s something for the supers to think about. “It ain’t over til it’s over” - nuff said.
- Posted by AnonymousObama has shown amazing restraint in the face of repeated Clinton attacks. I cannot say she has displayed the same grace. Is it more important to her that no Democrat wins if it can’t be her? Once again, her personal ambition is more important than the good of her party or this country. This is the same old news, brothers and sisters. We will soon see if she is capable of being a future leader by whether she is gracious enough to end her campaign and support the candidate with the most superdelegates. RE: Michigan and Florida - you can’t change the game when you are losing. Classic sign of a poor sport, which does not a good president make.
- Posted by MarieTo be honest, I am completely for Obama, but I appreciate the ideas some Clinton supporters have put forth. I am not talking about the Quislings who will simply disregard Obama as if he were a plague, I am talking about people who are educated on the issues and have spoken intelligently about their support for Hillary.
I deplore most of Hillary’s behavior, but, at least until this point, that’s politics. She was doing what she had to do to appear tough and electable, not matter how deceitful, disingenuous, or distracting. So in short, she has most certainly been a fighter, and, despite her tactics, has held tough in the face of great doubt and criticism.
So let her finish the fight. Let the voters vote, and bow out in June when the final numbers show that Obama has clearly won. At that point she will have crossed the finish line and can gracefully concede, while regaining much of the respect she has lost in this campaign.
Two things she should not do, however, is continue her negative campaign, as it helps nobody, especially the American people, and she should cease to put forward the idea that she can sway the DNC to allow FL and MI. This will only serve to destroy the DNC and create a vacuum for years to come, until new parties can establish themselves.
I understand it is frustrating for these states, but fire your politicians, not the whole democratic party.
- Posted by EdHilary should now step down and gracefully conceede defeat.
- Posted by John SaundersObama appears to be the most well-balanced and intelligent contender.
Yes, she should drop out. The Clinton’s are selfish people, so it would be refreshing to see one of them think about the best interest of the country for a change. She cannot win this (unless she uses some tricks to steal the nomination, and then I predict rioting in some of our major cities).
- Posted by GillianAs a Republican, I would like to see Clinton drop out so that Obama can be nominated. Once his left-wing, anti-free-trade, anti-tax-cut, anti-job-creation, anti-stability-in-Iraq policies become better known, Democrats looking for an experienced, moderate leader will have no choice but to vote for McCain. Democrats, when will you realize that you can’t win a presidential election by running liberals like Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, and Kerry?
- Posted by Steve“We’ve already seen what happens when common folk are allowed to vote. We get 8 years of Bush/Cheney!”
It wasn’t the common folk voting, it was the Supreme Court voting that put Bush/Cheney into office…another close race.
again I say;
- Posted by William LintsIt’s come down to a tight race. The idea of super delegates is a further deviation from Democracy, it’s a bad idea. In a race too close to be decided by the delegates the decision should be left to the popular vote, and the looser should be Vice President.
Yes Hillary should step aside now. For one, she has NO CHANCE, I mean, no chance of winning the nomination. All that she and Bill are doing is making Democrats more bitter with their divisive rhetoric. Plus, this is where the Republicans have the Dems beat. With contests left, Mitt Romney left because he couldn’t win the nomination. He could have said, I’m younger, more experienced in running a large budget, have served in the private sector with working folks and more. But, he didn’t. He dropped out for the better of his party. Hillary and Bill have to face the fact that they are not gonna win. It’s over, for now. Give their support to Barak and get about the business of electing a Democrat to the White House. Party over personal gains and glory….and, America first!
- Posted by TimObama should drop out, he uses demeaning politics of sexism to enhance his campaign (Tshirt with ” iron my shirts” to Clinton) yet Hillary has stayed above such terrible campaigning when her supporters could easily make tshirts that say ” Oh boy, clean up this mess” but then she might be accused of racism. Since when is sexism that does not respect her intelligence and position acceptable to Oboma. No doubt he will have the same tone with any women and likely will stick the boys club for real positions of power.
- Posted by Jay UlerEmbarrassing.
- Posted by MKThere you go blaming Hillary already if Obama is the candidate and loses in November. If Obama hasn’t got the merit to win then that will be his fault not Hillary’s.
- Posted by JanetHillary must stay in the race. She is the only one that can make our economi right. See how she can bend the election results and imagine how she will be able to bend our catastrophic national economy and present it as a winner.
Also in the 90′ties she promissed to change healthcare and had 8 years with Bill to do so. She only need another 8 years and we should be there.
No matter who you prefer - go out and vote.
- Posted by Richarddoesn’t matter what hill or barack do. obama has the nomination sewn up. and in the general election he’ll get pummelled by mccain, it’ll be like nixon vs mcgovern. the dems blew it, big time. what a wretched spectacle our two party system has become. when a guy like ron paul is marginalized by the party on the right; and a guy like nader is demonized on the left… well, we’re stuck with what a bunch of party bosses and oligarchs want. instead of intelligent discourse we get nonsense like “100 more years in iraq” and “i never heard a word my minister said.” geez. some choice.
- Posted by bobbyI’d like to challenge all of my fellow democrats to begin practicing the new politics: vow to vote for whoever wins the nomination. Stop saying you won’t vote at all, or that you’ll vote for the Republican if your favorite candidate doesn’t get the nomination. It’s time for us to stop acting like the other party and get behind our man or woman. Yes, I think Hillary should drop out, because I want to hear Obama start to address McCain, but if by some miracle Hillary wins the nomination, I will gladly vote for her, even though she’s not my first choice. Either Clinton or Obama would make a great president. Spread the word, spread the love!
- Posted by MinervaWhat a minute! Hillary said she “was on her way” to collecting $10mm but now she has to kick in another $6.4mm? How come the press has never asked how much she ACTUALLY collected — because it would give a TRUE indication of how little grass roots support she has — just like she has never released her grades at Yale so people could HONESTLY she how smart or dumb she really is. Be honest Hillary — we don’t want to spend another $65mm of taxpayers money later on to find out you are no different than Billy.
- Posted by J.J.Yes, she should drop out. She should have dropped out some time back, when it became obvious that Obama had the popular vote and the delegate count. All she will accomplish by staying in now is to deepen the divide in the Dem. party and hurt Obama’s chances against McCaine when Obama gets the nomination in November.
I’m a white, middle-class, middle-age male, but I truly believe that what is motivating the 1/3 or so of Clinton voters who say they would rather vote for McCaine than Obama is the fear that a black man may become president. How else do you explain such an irrational position? After all, Obama and Clinton are very nearly identical on the issues . . . so close in fact that for a long time commentators (and voters) were frustrated because there was no conflict. Are these democrats really willing to put this country through four more years of a disastrous republican administration just because of what amounts to a difference in personality between Obama and Clinton? Come on.
- Posted by JimHYou loaded sixteen tons of nonsense, what do you get
Another day older and deeper in debt ($11.425 million)
Saint Peter don’t you call her ’cause Hill can’t go
She owes her soul to the company store (list donors here)
-Modified from Tennessee Ernie Ford’s “Sixteen tons”
- Posted by PuWeiTaTo all…it’s over. Obama has won! Fair and square. For Hillary supporters, go peacefully. Someone had to lose. It could have been either of them. i hope that the “best political team on tv” were wrong when they suggested that Hillary supporters wouldn’t support Obama in large numbers. Democrats are prepared to establish a super-majority in the House and we will need mandates in order to address the serious issues we face. And, Obama isn’t sexist. His wife and daughters would resent such a comment I’m certain. Plus, he has ALWAYS supported women’s issues. I think his “bitter” comment may have been better served addressing some Hillary supporters.
- Posted by TimMizuInOz, are you an American citizen? Your English shows you might not be. B.O. got his dirty money not from the normal American citizens, but from special interest groups. No doubt about it.
Johh, you think B.O. got his big money from ordinary American citizens like you and me? You are wrong!!!! $25 or so counts nothing. Only the Big Oil companies can provide B.O. so much money to defeat Hillary and McCain.
Wake up American people!! Stand up again the Big Oil and B.O.!!!!!
- Posted by JimYes.
Hillary’s next actions will demonstrate whether she is a leader or whether she’s a self-serving politician. If she turns her considerable energy into supporting and bonding all Democrats together to join forces and bring about change in Washington, then she’s a leader. If she fights on and continues to force division in the Democratic party in order to (a) try to bully her way into the White House, or (b) force a McCain win so she can say “I told you so” and run again in four years, then she’s the well-trained political beast I fear she is.
Which of these two Democratic contenders want to bring about a better America?
Please come to your senses, Hillary.
- Posted by SharmynIs she not a democrat? - She doesn’t have the votes so it’s time to step aside. Her argument that she is of more appeal to the people of America than a black man is incredible in its viciousness and especially when the evidence of the votes in the democratic race is the opposite.
- Posted by marcDon’t waitt until you are forced out of the race…get out now and retain some dignity.
- Posted by TeresaB.O. - a senator from Illinois - and Bil Oil companies in the world. B.O. and Big Oil - we should think carefullly about the connections between them. Why B.O. does not want to do anything to affect the dirty money made by the Big Oil international companies?
- Posted by JimTic-toc-tic-toc Hillary time to face the reality- your campaign is over. Even once Florida and Michigan have been sorted out - you still can’t break Obama’s momentum. Its time to be a good Democrat and quit playing these Republican games. Do what is best for this country and lets get on with it and show your support for Senator Obama on his journey to the White House.
- Posted by Ron S.What will the international Big Oil companies do to extend their big gains and to make more dirty money? Can they simply blame China for the rising oil price? No! These oil men are very cunning. Now they find this B.O. -a junior senitor from Illinois - who did not have existing infrastructures in Washington D.C. and could support their dirty oil money agenda. We American citizens need to look into what is behind the dirty cunning politics. We should stop the Big Oil companies and B.O. from Illinois!!!
- Posted by JimI think Clinton should continue. Let the real people vote especially in Florida.
- Posted by ConstanceLet Florida Vote. Then we will see.
- Posted by ConstanceNo! She is the only one who can beat MacCain. she needs to stay in the race.
- Posted by KevinWho cares? She never will because that’s the nature of the Democrat party. It’s the same old divisive persistence, rebellion, and disregard for common sense in the pursuit of short-term, pleasurable in the moment solutions.
- Posted by BarneyThis entire parade of idiotic, misinformed, unenlightened, and politically unaware statements by a sample (small) of America’s electorate just proves why America just can’t get it right. It proves why elections in 2000 and 2004 went to George Bush and why the 2008 election may go to a republican again.
- Posted by harold“She deserves the rigth to finish,she has fougth a good battle.Besides there is still mathematical chnces if you include Florida and Michigan.
- Posted by RobertoMore so if she funds thelast days with her own money,she is entitled to.
I don`t believe in Obama,so far he has said nothing of substance,all he promisses is change, that is “politics 101″. If you want to fall for him so be it.
It is ridiculous to think he is going to end the war in 6 month.Doesn`t anybody realizes that this war is also paying for itself by getting cheap oil from Irak.Has anybody figured out how much will oil be if Irak falls under the wrong regime or there is another civil war…?
Has anybody asked our soldiers what they think of the candidates?After all they are the ones figthing the war
and their vote should also count.
Let her finish,McCain can take either one,besides we don`t have anything else to watch in TV…
There are two scenarios by which Hillary can become the nominee. 1) Obama suffers some political catastrophe making it impossible for him to run, or 2) Hillary is able to overturn the will of the primary/caucus voters/caucus attendees. If #1 happens, she’ll be the nominee whether she drops out now or not. If #2 happens it will be a disaster for the Democratic party. Since #1 doesn’t require her to stay in the race, she is basically saying she is willing to bring a disaster to the Democratic party in her quest for power. That shows that her ambition is about nothing other than her personal greed for power — at any cost. I don’t want a president who puts her personal ambition above the good of her electorate.
- Posted by AndyNext it’s Canada, Nova Scotia and then an attempt to force Bermuda to become a US state. After Hillary loses there, she’ll then place a pup tent at the White House just in case she’s needed.
- Posted by MarkYa’ll check this out….I found an interesting interactive “what if” delegate calculator on CNN’s web site, which can run various scenarios for the remaining contests and delegate allocations. Just for the heck of it I gave Hillary a 6-0 win in all the remaining state contests, projecting her to win, Oregon, South Dakota and Montana by 10% margin (very, very unlikely given the Barak is the heavy favorite in these states) and also projecting her to win West Virginia, Kentucky and Puerto Rico by 20% margin, and finally I gave her 65% to 35% (2 to 1 ratio) allocation of the remaining supper delegates. And guess what, Obama still comes out on top with 2,026 delegates and Hillary is well short with about 1,990. Point blank, it’s over, and if Hilary doesn’t concede defeat right now, than that says something about her mental state and whether or not she is even fit to hold ANY OFFICE, let alone the White House…
Check out for your self at:
- Posted by AlexZhttp://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/ 29/delegate.counter/index.html?iref=mpst oryview
Hillary should do what Mitt Romney did for the Republicans. Hillary effort for great but its time for her to look for the American future and support Barrack Obama for his campaign against John.
- Posted by MichaelSen. Clinton should definitely not drop out of the race. And why should she? Sen. Obama has not yet won. The last time I checked the “mathematical impossibility” Obama did not have 2,025 delegates. Nor have the delegates in Florida and Michigan been seated. I do not appreciate the media’s theatrics, bending over backwards to convince me of probable outcomes. When Obama has 2,025 delegates and the aforementioned states have been settled on May 31, and the final contest has been won, then we will discuss whether Sen. Clinton should bow out. The race is far too tight. We can thank the media’s probama bias for that.
- Posted by Bryan ShuckI don’t mind Hillary staying in a little longer. Of course she stands very little chance of winning, but these last few state primaries are going to be very interesting to watch. News networks get big ratings, political analysts get to feel special, everyone’s having a ball. Just keep watching till the game’s over, and stop booing.
- Posted by WarholThe Democrats are going to lose the election, and it will be their own fault. Not counting Florida and Michigan was the first huge mistake. Ignoring the votes of two big states is plain stupid, and they should have been allowed to re-run their contests. The next big mistake was pressuring for the contest to be over prematurely just because the Republicans have their nominee already. McCain can’t do anything until he knows who his opponent will be. All this stuff about how we have to end it now, it’s damaging the party etc. is rubbish. Maybe Obama will win but let him fight a fair fight to get it.
- Posted by SarahLet’s hope for change, so that we can hopefully change and hope … etc. etc.
- Posted by Peter TerzandeClinton doesn’t drop out > McCain wins.
Clinton drops out > Obama is nominee > McCain wins.
Who would ever have thought the Republicans still had a chance!! I’m so hopeful for change!
Boy, it is basically becoming embarrassing. What strikes me the most, even as a Republican, is she is hurting her party. Any candidate, Republican or Democrat, who demonstrates that they are thinking more about themselves than for the country’s good as a whole, I wouldn’t at all want that person for President and probably numerous other offices as well. I think she was just ambitious, but didn’t exactly have her heart and mind in the right place. It’s fine to run, but humiliating to not get out when it is definitely the time to get out. It was critical for her to win both Indiana and Carolina last night. Mathematically she can’t get more delegates, now she wants to change the agreed upon rules of Florida’s early election. In last night’s election, she carried the elderly vote in particular. Things could be said about that. Such as it’s been a white man’s culture and maybe they would want a white woman instead of a black man-I don’t know. I think she’s got a ton of baggage too. Obama might be relatively young, but he’s going to have a hell of a lot of experienced talent to assist him if he gets into the White House. For her party’s sake, she should get out immediately so the bigger business of taking on McCain can start. But hey, who am I to suggest, I’ll be voting for McCain even though I don’t like his history on the illegal immigration issue. I’m surprised that these are the best available people we have in America to lead our country.
- Posted by mr.anaheimPlease, listen: Obama is not trying to screw Michigan or Florida out of votes. In at least one of those states his name was not even on the ballot. The process was flawed, and not wanting the delegates to count has nothing to do with not wanting people’s votes to count. Throw blame at the Democratic parties in those states, one of which is my home.
Many of you are smart, and some of you just prove over and over why this country is in such a terrible place. I hate American politics, the entire charade is smoke and mirrors. That isn’t conspiracy theory or liberal finger-wagging; it is just the sad state of things. Just like television shows do NOT represent reality, the speeches and posturing of politicians are there to hush and coo people into living everyday life just as they always have. No evil conspirators. No Neo-con Plot of World Domination (fingers crossed). Just people in power doing what any well-established, middle-aged, trend-follower will do: fight to stay where her/she is and try to assuage angry people screaming from every corner about one thing or another.
We can’t get better until American individuals are aware of how things work. Smarter people = smarter politicians. That is what we are sorely lacking.
-sigh
- Posted by CalvinQUOTE “Johh, you think B.O. got his big money from ordinary American citizens like you and me? You are wrong!!!! $25 or so counts nothing. Only the Big Oil companies can provide B.O. so much money to defeat Hillary and McCain.
Wake up American people!! Stand up again the Big Oil and B.O.!!!!! - Posted by Jim”
Jim
I suspect you are one of the 20% of Americans who still believe BO is a muslim. You believe every ridiculous spam you may receive.
I have a challenge for you. Find ONE credible resource that even implies that BO gets his money from oil companies or any large interest groups. I bet you cant find any. When you are done do a similar search for Hilliary Clinton. If you have an iq higher than a mouse, you will figure it out!
Stop slandering and spreading defamatory remarks without proof of the facts and while you are at it educate yourself and stop reading enquirer and the random spam you receive.
jas dean
- Posted by jas deanoh no! mrs cliton should keep dreaming, you know first time it was mr cliton; this time is her turn, next time it should be the turn of chelsea cliton in the white house ho ho..
- Posted by peter ogbidiI actually was a HC fan when this race started. The tactics that she has employed has raised some questions in my mind about her character. In either case, I will still view her as an outstanding American and I am glad that she has contributed to the process.
however its time for her to leave. This eleciton and nomination is much bigger than her or her ego. She should realize that there is too much is at stake.
jas dean
- Posted by jas deanIf your state broke your party’s rules and held their primaries early in violation of party rules and you were told beforehand your delegates would be void and still CHOSE to hold your primaries early , then you should be held to that decision and it’s consequences. Hillary, drop out now, Save Face!
- Posted by Jose Sandovaljas dean, i consider your statement rediculous, because youi expect to find this kind of information by Google or something? B.O. got his money from special interest groups such as the oil companies. there is no doubt about this. jas, i do not believe B.O. is a muslim - please do not lie to me and you quit being a liar like B.O. and other cunning politicians
- Posted by JimShe is just getting warm, wait till she sets fire to Denver or riot in the streets to get the nod.
- Posted by MikeThe honorable thing for Clinton to do is to drop out. At least she still got some honor left to preserve.
- Posted by odj4realI agree with Jose, Fl. and MI. new the rules going in. Senator Obama followed the rules also by not spending any nmmoney and did not campaign unlike Hillary so it’s only natural she won under those circumstances but in fact had they both campaigned all out who knows what would have been the result. You just can’t count them because she needs the support. But she doesn’t like to follow th erules if they don’t suit her. It would be wrong. Put the shoe on the other foot and she would be totally against it too. She has lost but won’t admit defeat until she can con enough people out of some more money so she can be paid back. If her campaign was in that much trouble she should have quit long ago or called it a donation like all the other people did that made contributions. Can I call my contribution a loan? i don’t think so, how much interest will she make on this deal? It’s time for her to go before she looses any more credibility.
- Posted by james Janowski new yorkerVery good point Jose Sandoval!!
If we change the rule this time, why even have a rule? We can always find a reason to justify changing the rule. Our country’s success and dominance can at least in part be attributed to the fact that we are a country of laws and rules.
To allow anyone to change the rules after the fact to suit them, undermines our demcracy.
jas dean
- Posted by jas deanIt is just mean spirited for hilary to stay in the race now - only giving fodder to the republicans for the fall, and preventing obama from starting the very important campaign to beat mccain. I have lost so much respect for her and how nasty she has been, and I am one of those “white, female, older, working class roots” voter she touts as her own - not so. She offers nothing new and after the way she has run her campaign, I trust her even less.
- Posted by Louisa DyerIt annoys me to see such a small person, all-round, to actually beleive they are big enough and honest enough to be president.
I suggest Hilary stands down and stops making a fool of herself.
Her prescence in the race for president is now quite pointless, annoying, devisive, destructive, polarising and ultimately damaging to herself.
Now Obama won’t even consider her for vice: after her vicous campaign I toally agree with him.
Let the racists have their day - but for Hilary the party is over!
- Posted by Keith M WarwickTime for wholesale changes in the Democratic party. From Pelosi to Dean especially. Neither have done their jobs to create unity or comprise for the benifit of the whole.
- Posted by james Janowski new yorkerHillary will not leave this race until she has recovered her loans. Then and only then will she opt out. I don’t understand how she can ask supporters to donate to her campaign when she isn’t willing herself. Do we know what the terms of these loans are. Had I sent her a check I’d be asking for it back and tell her it was just a loan. There’s something wrong with this hole loan picture.
- Posted by Terry in NYGo OBAMA …GO OBAMA
- Posted by AliObama is a phoney and not quilified to run the country. Put Clinton in and get rid of him and we won’t have another four years of Bush. I won’t vote for Obama if I have to not vote at all. I also will not vote for anyone who supports Obama if they are not smart enough to see him for what he is they shouldn’t be in public office. Go Hillary.
- Posted by Barbara RobertsQUOTE “jas dean, i consider your statement rediculous, because youi expect to find this kind of information by Google or something? B.O. got his money from special interest groups such as the oil companies. there is no doubt about this. jas, i do not believe B.O. is a muslim - please do not lie to me and you quit being a liar like B.O. and other cunning politicians
- Posted by Jim”
So Jim,
Let me get this right. You admit, I wont find any credible sources that say BO gets his money from big oil Corporations. You even admit I wont find it on google. But you want me to believe this statement is true just because you say so? Give me a break.
Like I said, if you dont like BO and prefer Clinton or McCain FOR WHATEVER REASON that is fine. But you ought to be ashamed of yourself to be slandering and defaming some one without one shred of evidence to support your position. This is how false rumours get started. It is also exactly why 20% of Americans still believe BO is muslim.
I am not picking a quarrel with you. I am just challenging you to be respectful to everyone you meet in life even those you dont like. Speculating and spreading unsubstatiated defamatory information about anyone is just plain rude and disrespectful.
Have a wonderful day!
jas dean
- Posted by jas deanObama has as much experience as Lincoln. Learn a little history.
- Posted by sam
Learn some history Sam?
Lincoln served 6 years in the senate.
It would seem that ’tis you who is lacking in historical knowledge.
- Posted by Bob Sakowskino she should not drop out….if obama gets in i will vote republican…i dont want obama for president and al sharpton for vice president!!! no way this is america….keep fighting dont give up
- Posted by darleneif she needs to drop out - - NO ooooo . .
- Posted by MarkEveryone who thinks she should drop out should change the rules for 4 years from now - -The rules are there for a reason , and she and her campaign is the reason ..
QUOTE “I also will not vote for anyone who supports Obama if they are not smart enough to see him for what he is they shouldn’t be in public office. Go Hillary.
- Posted by Barbara Roberts”
Dont sweat it Barbara, Barrack can and will win without your vote.
People with your mentality are on the verge of extinction. My advice is to get with the program or you will live the rest of your life grumpy.
jas dean
- Posted by jas deanIf Hillary won’t quit - the voters need to do it for her…send her home next Tuesday. She and Bill have had their chance at the White House for 8 years. If they feel they are the only ones that can run this country - then we don’t need them. Change is what this election is all about…Obama in 2008 and 2012…and no she does not need to be on the ticket as VP. She will undermine Obama at every opportunity. Chelsea needs to go back to her cushy elite job and not even think about running for anything.
- Posted by AndreaYes, Hiliary should back down and be gracious. She is destroying the Democratic Party and ensuring McCain a spot in the Whitehouse. I know it must be hard for her…but the needs of the many, out way the needs of the one! Get it, Hiliary!
- Posted by Linda NorthcuttHas everyone decided about Florida and Michigan? Are two of the most decisive States in the Union going to be left out of this process? Is the DNC prepared to anger Florida to the point of loosing this State to John McCain in November? If Florida is left out, can Obama go in there and campaign in the Fall. Can he effectively say to the Floridians:”Look guys, we didn’t need you in the primaries, but I need you now. You didn’t count in the primaries but you do count in the general election.”
Remember, that if Florida comes into play, Hillary is ahead in delegates and the popular vote. Then what happens. There are six more primaries..Kentucky, West Virginia,Oregon,Montana, S. Dakota and Puerto Rico. Hillary is going to win four of those. Then she will continue to the convention and there she will pull out all the stops and then let’s see what happens.
DON’T TAKE THIS LADY FOR GRANTED……
Reaganite
- Posted by Reaganite-Glenn D'Abreohttp://www.hangright.org
QUOTE “Has everyone decided about Florida and Michigan? Are two of the most decisive States in the Union going to be left out of this process? ”
Reaganite
Reganite, I dont know how many democrats have decided on Flroida and Michigan, however I do know that Florida and Michigan made their decisions to not follow the rules. It was an intentional violation of the rule not a mistake. It was done to draw attention to the ridiculous primary rules. Florida and Michigan have accomplished their objective of bringing light to the ridiculous rules. However, Florida and Michigan now not only want to bring light to the problem, they also want to be treated like a rule followers. NOT so.
I am a Floridian. I am proud our state took the position it did to highlight this ridicolous primary process, and now I am willing to pay the price. I dont think any delegates from either my home state or MIchigan should be counted.
The rules are there to be followed. If we are going to start making exceptions to the rules AFTER the fact, why even have rules?
jas dean
- Posted by jas deanNot now, wait for some more months. Let her her spend some more money. It will help many people.
- Posted by A. Y.Hillary is a selfishm, self centered, petty, childish, wicked monster wearing a aged mask. She cannot be trusted and could give a crap about low class uneducated whites who are voting for her. Only the uneducated would support her for just that reason—-uneducated. Wake up and smell the sh–!!!
- Posted by trailerguestDEMS..UNITE!!!
Well, as we all know, election season is once again upon us. Our choices are, as always, a great source of controversy and strife among the American people. This is understandable as not every candidate fits our ideals of the perfect President.
However, I’ve noticed some very disturbing trends among voters and, most glaringly, the Democrats. Frankly, it’s appalling. I can’t get through a blog nor a chat room without seeing Democrats at each other’s throats, each bashing the views and private lives of one another’s pick as the Dem candidate.
You know what, people?? Knock it off. I’m not particularly wild about either Hillary nor Obama either, to be honest.. but all have a common goal here. That goal is to do everything we can to keep the GOP out of the White House.
Haven’t the GOP done enough damage already? For the past 7 years, we’ve been subjected to two recessions, the invasion of a soveriegn country with no violent designs on us, over 935 lies from this administration ABOUT IRAQ ALONE, and the blatant trampling of our civil rights such as our privacy with the warrantless surveillance and with free speech with arrests of peacful protestors and even people whose only “crime” was merely wearing an anti-war or anti-Bush T-shirt.
Both John McCain and Mike Huckabee have stated that they plan on continuining our occupation of Iraq. Senator McCain has stated that he not only wants us to stay in Iraq for 100 years, but is already planning on attacking Iran, as he so playfully reiterated in his rousing rendition of the Beach Boys song “Barbara Ann” titled “Bomb Bomb Iran.”
Obama and Hillary’s ideas are really not so different. They have similiar ideas on health care, Iraq, national security in general, etc. There are subtle nuances that make their plans slightly different but when it comes down to it, one is really just as good as the other.
It’s bothersome that people are saying things like “Hillary is a warmonger”… or “Obama is a Muslim sympathizer.” These same lines that Rightwingers were using against the two of them just a few short months ago and the Dems were scolding them for, the Dems are now using. I, personally, never chose a particular party with which to label myself. I consider myself an Independent even though I never formally even declared myself as such… and this is why. Both sides seem to go off the deep end when elections come up and I am so disappointed that Dems have allowed themselved to stoop to the level of “The Righties.”
I don’t like any party spreading lies and innuendo about any candidate, whether he or she be Republican or Democrat. It’s juvenile and ignorant. I don’t approve of McCain’s policies but I’m not going to perpetuate the rumor that he committed treason while in the service. I have no proof that he did. On the same token, I won’t perpetuate the rumor that Barack Obama is a Muslim terrorist sympathizer. We have more than ample evidence that he is not.
Let’s think about that particular rumor for a moment. George W. Bush has been more in the pocket of Muslim terrorist sympathizers than anyone else. Despite th