
November’s job losses were the steepest since December 1974, when 602,000 jobs were shed. Analysts polled by Reuters had predicted a reduction of 340,000 jobs.
“This is a clear employment blowout. Firms are reacting as dramatically as they can to make sure they have cost structures they can survive the recession we are in,” said Joel Naroff, president of Naroff Economic Advisors.
One reader commenting on the site feels the job losses have not hit bottom. “I predict 30% unemployment by March of 2009. The retailers are gonna tank right after Christmas. Look for some really good deals!” wrote Smacktle.
Not all responses were as dire.
“Well these are pretty bad numbers. This will be a real test to see how much bad news is priced into the markets. Futures are down quite a bit, but I actually expected them to be down a lot more given these terrible recessionary numbers,” says Jeff Kleintop, chief market strategist for LPL Financial in Boston.
“It might be hard in future months to get numbers that are any worse. It might be good that we raced to some of the worst numbers we’ve had because perhaps it can’t get incrementally worse.”
Some of our readers found the data less shocking.
“This is not a big surprise, really. One has only to observe how many fewer cars are on the road shortly after rush hour, how many empty seats are on the planes into or out of major hubs, how many fewer people are in front of you in any line for services from movie theaters to tire stores, how much more quickly you are seated in a restaurant,” writes Jaime Simmons.
What you think about today’s unemployment numbers?
(Pictured above: A member of the Laborers Union Local 89 waits outside his local union hall after placing his name on the job list in San Marcos, California November 7, 2008. REUTERS/Mike Blake)

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This is not a big surprise, really. One has only to observe how many fewer cars are on the road shortly after rush hour, how many empty seats are on the planes into or out of major hubs, how many fewer people are in front of you in any line for services from movie theaters to tire stores, how much more quickly you are seated in a restaurant. I am always bemused at how the pundits are so shocked. Sometimes we over think things. The signs of slowdown in most sectors is all around you.
- Posted by Jaime SimmonsNaroff said “perhaps it can’t get any worse”. Apparently he hasn’t been following congress lately, the majority of whom would be perfectly willing to let the Japanese have our entire auto industry, and much of the many jobs in it, and in related industries. If that happens, it will get much worse. Good thing we pumped hundreds of billions into banks (which we have too many of).. NOT.
- Posted by Mark TThe numbers are bad, but the unemployment rate still is not nearly as bad as it was in 1981. When I graduated from college in 1981 there was only one job available for my field, and 25,000 people applying for it. Even minimum wage jobs were difficult to get.
With commodity prices dropping, it will help the economy recover much quicker then most people think. In the 1970’s we had recessions because the middle class wages didn’t keep up with inflation. People would just stop buying like they did before. History repeats itself.
- Posted by Dave‘….U.S. employers axed 533,000 jobs in November, the most since 1974, the Labor Department said on Friday. The unemployment rate rose to 6.7 percent from 6.5 percent in October…’
If I am correct, it means an increase of 533 000 lost jobs correlates to an increase of .2% in the unemployment rate. This means 1% of the US job market is equal to 2 665 000 people. So the TOTAL US job market employees 266.5 million people (in a country of just over 300 million total residents). That leaves very few kids and retirees. What gives? The unemployment ratio seems way too low…
- Posted by blackbeanI predict 30% unemployment by March of 2009. The retailers are gonna tank right after Christmas. Look for some really good deals!
- Posted by SmacktleThat’s right about on track. What is currently happening is the Fed is trying to boost the economy by putting the country deeper into debt.
- Posted by ChrisEvidently they didn’t realize that the reason the mortgage crisis occurred is due to a combination of people overextending themselves with too much debt, and also loss of jobs.
In 2005 both parties in Congress joined with the administration to change the Bankruptcy Code to make it difficult for consumers to discharge credit card debt. This statute, largely written by MBNA lobbyists, was enacted into law over the protests of lawyers and judges across the nation. The statute also made it much more difficult for people to reorganize their mortgage debt so that they could keep their homes.
There is no doubt that closing off of the “fresh start” and making the US Trustee’s office an attack dog had contributed to the current financial crash.
Our present members of Congress have done nothing about this. Let them know what you think of them, with their taxpayer-funded salaries, social life and parties, while thousands lose their jobs and homes and cannot use the bankruptcy law to get a fresh start and keep their homes.
- Posted by Rosemary WilliamsCan’t someone express this as a percentage of available workers? Today’s number is obviously distressing but it would feel so much more relevant if it could be compared to numbers from other years if all we expressed as a ratio. Also, it shouldnt be forgotten that the jobless number from 1945 represent a downshift in war related manufacturing.
- Posted by ChrisMy dad dropped out of the workforce in the mid 70s. He was a laborer and never found another job. I lost my job a few months ago. I anticipate the worst. Hang onto your hat folks!
- Posted by RobWI think a lot of this is to do with corporate budget cycles. They know 2009 will be bad, and they want to shed staff and pay severance this year (because the markets are low and aren’t expecting much). Then they can go into 2009 lean and ready for more (bad) stuff and not overweight.
So although this is terrible, and December could be worse, I suspect the early parts of next year will be much better.
When it comes to corporate cash-flow, and that’s important when there’s such a credit shortage, you don’t want to run out of money, unable to pay wages. So you plan for the worse, and shed one of the least flexible costs (employment) so you don’t hit the wall by running out of cash.
- Posted by Nic FultonI think it will get considerably worse. The current administration is trying to push the string of credit as an almost exclusive way of dealing with an economy that doesn’t want more credit. This simply isn’t working. Consumers don’t want more credit but instead want to have less debt. Most of the consumer goods sold on credit are not necessities. As such, this could get a lot worse as regular folks hunker down and take their lumps.
I don’t see this turning around until quite a bit more debt is retired or destroyed. That will take years if the current methods are continued. Too bad the folks handing out the billions don’t understand that easy credit isn’t the answer this time around. Giving bailouts to banks and credit card companies doesn’t keep a roof over people’s heads or feed people who are hungry, it only perpetuates the status quo, which is currently downhill. It is amazing how too many houses are making more people homeless.
This issue goes way back to the response to 9/11 - when the response to “what can you do for your country now?” was “Go to the mall and shop”. Perhaps a more compassionate and conservative approach this time is feed and house your neighbor.
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
- Posted by JoeBThe markets reflect the future. I believe that the markets and jobs are moving downward because they are anticipating the new Marxist, socialist governmet that will be taking office on Jan. 20.
This new government will do even more harm to our country than most can even anticipate. I believe that this new goverment will not only destroy our economy even more but they will use the constitution as toilet paper. Not only will our financial future be at great risk but also our constitutional rights. This, I believe, is the major cause for our markets’ destruction.
- Posted by SteveI am thankful that both my husband and I still have jobs. But we are more thankful that we started living below our means (budgeting) in February and paid off all our debts in August before this crisis really began. This has allowed us to sleep easier at night and not fear the next day’s bills or pink slips.
- Posted by leeIf you want to bring back 1.2 million high tech jobs, Get rid of 1.2 million H1-B workers that were brought to this country. It is bad enough that Jobs are being sent overseas, it is worse when this country brings workers from overseas causing Americans to lose 1.2 million jobs. The H1-B program needs to be stopped and these jobs be given back to Americans.
- Posted by Rich RatajIn my opinion the situation is going to be worse in next one year.Stats are just numbers,but we are dealing with lives and livelihood.As we have seen no amount of bailout or financial aid have benefited the industry.May be this is the right time to think about the path that we are following where we count each life as a digit in database.Main thing that people have lost confidence in the system.We are paying more emphasis in creating billionairs rather than valueing each life and environment.More important are small scale industry and enterpreunership than creating financial giants who get too lazy and stop serving the system.Executives in these giants earn/spend just too much.The corporate greed has given place to lies.To hide a lie,the corporates have invented 10 lies and hence the crisis.
- Posted by Saurabh mathurUnemployment will go to 9%
And low interest rates will not change anything.
Frank
- Posted by FrankWhat do you expect when our administration is filled with incompetant people and greed hit its zenith with the wall street firms. It think the FBI needs to start prosecuting CEOs of these firms.
May you live in interesting times….
- Posted by DaveNumbers sound high relative to numbers announced daily. This 20,000 per day. Have not seen these kinds of numbers
- Posted by CalvinJust keep in mind that many of us are self-employed or otherwise work in small businesses that don’t report layoffs. There are, I’m sure many thousands of Americans like me who don’t show up in the government figures. I’m sad to hear about 1/2 million people losing their jobs, but on the other hand I think, “Welcome to the club.”
- Posted by Ron FrazerMake that 199,001 jobs lost, I just axed 10 minutes ago
- Posted by Unemployed199,001