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Are new security screenings affecting your decision to fly?

November 12, 2010

Stepped-up security screening at airports in the wake of foiled terrorism plots has provoked an outcry from airline pilots and travelers, including parents of children who say they are too intrusive.

Industry officials, travelers and pilots have complained bitterly to the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) and Department of Homeland Security (DHS) about new full-body scanners and more rigorous patdown checks begun recent weeks.

Security officials have defended the measures as necessary after foiled plots by al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, which has tried to hide bombs in clothing and parcels that have made it aboard a U.S. passenger airliner and two cargo planes.

With the busiest holiday travel season nearing, fliers face long security lines and new rigorous patdown checks aimed at discovering hidden explosives. As a result, some travelers are questioning whether to fly at all.

Are you less likely to fly because of stepped-up security procedures such as full-body scans and patdowns?

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My husband and I are taking the auto train to Florida next week. It will cost us a total of $300 more, and take about 14 hours longer, over going by air and renting a car, but we feel it’s worth it to avoid these invasive “security” measures.

Posted by Marla | Report as abusive
 

After the first pat down I got at OAK on September 9th, I became annoyed, and the other people in line were all visibly affected, from upset to livid. I sent an email to TSA and my Representative and Senators, but never received any replies. I decided to limit my flying as much as possible, and have done so. I am supposed to fly twice a month for business. In addition I generally fly 3-4 times per year for vacations. From Sep 9 to yearend, I will have skipped six trips that I otherwise would have taken. Ironically, on the two trips (four flights) I did have to take, the scanners were not being used, and no one was being patted down! Go figure….

Posted by wasguy | Report as abusive
 

To answer Montpassat’s question Do any politicians have a financial interest in the installation of Scamming machines at Scareports the answer is……wait for it…..Yes….
Heir Chertoff aka Commandant of Security Uberland under the second Shrub administration. Chertoff is one of the owners of company that is making the X-ray scammers and selling them to scareports and making millions.
I’m not flying anymore in protest. Let your spending habits reflect your demand for freedom and protection of American’s IV Amendment Rights against illegal search and seizure.
Speak Up, Stand Up, Opt Out.

Posted by echobravotango | Report as abusive
 

Cost of the scanner program: $6,000,000,000 over 10 years

Claimed risk of getting a cancer from X-ray scanners: 1 : 30,000,000 scans

Annual air travelers: 600 million

Ratio of X-ray scanners: half

Number of people TSA will likely give cancer: 10/year

Number of terrorists caught by TSA: 0

Getting groped by a federal agent every time you fly: priceless

Posted by solidstew | Report as abusive
 

Our government wants U.S. to accept them as “big brother”. Their last big assault was after 911. This is a conditioning process. The Truth is “We the People” must completely reverse this mentality and let Our “public servants” learn to accept U.S. as “big brother” over them.

We must condition them – Starting NOW!

They want to see how much “We the People” will allow them to dis-respect U.S. Its all about Power and Control! Will Our government control U.S. or will “We the People” now use Our rightful Constitutional Authority to stand firm and tell them “HOW IT IS”?

What happens now will decide many issues in the future. Enough is Enough!

This issue must be the “line in the sand”. Our Personal Freedom and Personal Liberty must Not be compromised. In fact, “We the People” must move that line way back.

“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” –Benjamin Franklin

I value ALL my God-given Freedoms and Liberties, Our Great Constitution and Our most very important National Sovereignty. I am more than happy to take more risks in life to preserve my maximum share of Freedoms and Liberty.

“It is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or pretended, from abroad.” –James Madison

“It’s time for the American people to stand up, shrug off the shackles of our government and TSA at the airport.” -Ron Paul

http://www.tomdavidd.com/blog/?page_id=1 65

Posted by thomdd1959 | Report as abusive
 

T.S.A obviously an acronym for Terrorist Score Again. Class lets open our History books to the Chapter where they tell us the majority of the German people opposed the Turd reich but the minority who submissively complied gave the Furor the idea that the majority could be controlled by compelling the minority to cower in fear. First they intimidated the old and infirm. Then stepped it up once encouraged by the complacency of the younger adults. When they come for you no one will be left to oppose them and you’ll wonder how it happened. Totally Stupid Americans you want to blame someone look in the mirror. Damn it just when everything was going so good!

Posted by echobravotango | Report as abusive
 

I think that while people are protesting TSA “patdowns” and full-body x-ray scanners they should be protesting the systematic rifling of passengers’ luggage that is being engaged in by TSA employees. While I agree that luggage inspection is necessary, the employee searching the luggage should be 100% identifiable and linkable to passenger complaints. The agencies hand-inspecting luggage should also be liable for loss or damage. Even when items are not simply stolen from the luggage, the re-closure of luggage is often careless, which can itself lead to loss or damage to the contents or to the bags themselves. The need for security cannot be used as an excuse for damage, harassment or assault (sexual or otherwise). The public is now funally catching on the the fact that “security” is a multi-billion dollar business, in which the government officials mandating the procedures have a stake. We must kill off this crime and corruption; time for investigations and arrests.

Posted by mikjall | Report as abusive
 

I just returned from one of my twice annual visits to the corporate office in Boston. Instead of flying (Cincinnati to Boston) I got my boss to agree to one extra night in the hotel and them paying for my gas & tolls) so I took the extra time and drove (1,700 miles round trip). No more flying for me. I simply refuse to be treated as a criminal in my own country.

Posted by pbsi | Report as abusive
 

I live in Europe, and now I wish I had gone to the US before 9/11, I have always wanted to see NY. Except back then I couldn’t afford to, now I can but there is no way I’ll pass trough an airport in the US. The crazyness began with fingerprinting and extended background checks, then came stories of tourists being mistreated and humiliated in US airports. These days your socalled security seems to have degenerated into humiliation for the sake of humiliation. Abolish the TSA and go back to letting the airport handle security, maybe then I’ll come.

Posted by hurin | Report as abusive
 

This is a disgrace to human dignity. I for one, refuse to be herded and prodded like cattle. I am Canadian. I don’t travel to the US. End.

Posted by jointventure | Report as abusive
 

I am a homophobic male and I respectfully request a youngish female attendant for my patdown. I will take my viagra before getting in line. But if she squeezes too hard…it might detonate.

Posted by jointventure | Report as abusive
 

You are so right, NotScientific, very few people really object to the new procedures. I’ll bet that people get through the screening and run back to get in the line again just like a ride at Disneyland. Jeez, does anybody like them who isn’t somehow making money off the deal?

Posted by Luxomni | Report as abusive
 

The 4th Amendment states “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized”. This to me means that unless you are a suspect in a criminal investigation, it is unlawful for your person to be searched. TSA employees, as employees of the US government, are required to take an oath…the same oath taken by the military, to “…preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States”. Consequently, these persons are, either knowingly or unknowlingly, breaking that oath every time they search a person as a part of airport screening. Unless the TSA comes out and states that all travelers are suspects in an ongoing criminal investigation regarding domestic terrorism, they must cease and desist. Congress needs to act.

Posted by almostasenior | Report as abusive
 

We see what happens but likely the TSA will get away with its unlawful searches. Expect for that one guy in LA, who else had the guts to walk away without being search? Bet that dude isn’t getting a refund on plane ticket either.

Posted by Skylor | Report as abusive
 

The government can not protect you. They’re supposed to protect Constitutional rights which LIMIT WHAT GOVERNMENT can do, not the people. We have ALL the rights, not what they’ve been telling us over and over.

It was true then, and it’s even truer now…

“Those who would give up Essential Liberty
to purchase a little Temporary Safety,
deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

Ben Frankilin

Posted by whiskeywagon | Report as abusive
 

Wow, in less than 10 years the US went from “911 – Never Forget” to “Don’t touch my junk!”

Ummmm…errr…it appears you’ve forgotten…

Posted by Budbc | Report as abusive
 

Well, on some trips. I can drive a few hundred miles and in some cases take a train. But face it, we have to fly sometimes, and that is why I want the TSA gone. They add nothing to my safety, they cost money and are a real annoyance.

Posted by motorguy | Report as abusive
 

WHY DO WE PUT UP WITH THIS AND ALL THE OTHER GARBAGE FROM OUR GOVERNMENT? THIS IS OUR COUNTRY AND WE NEED TO TAKE IT BACK. VOTE FOR POLITICIAN’S THAT WILL WORK FOR THE PEOPLE. GET OBAMA AND ANY OTHERS LIKE HIM OUT OF OFFICE. STUDY WHO YOU ARE VOTING FOR.

Posted by ramsglen | Report as abusive
 

WHY DO WE PUT UP WITH THIS AND ALL THE OTHER GARBAGE FROM OUR GOVERNMENT? THIS IS OUR COUNTRY AND WE NEED TO TAKE IT BACK. VOTE FOR POLITICIAN’S THAT WILL WORK FOR THE PEOPLE. GET OBAMA AND ANY OTHERS LIKE HIM OUT OF OFFICE. STUDY WHO YOU ARE VOTING FOR.

Posted by ramsglen | Report as abusive
 

WHY DO WE PUT UP WITH THIS AND ALL THE OTHER GARBAGE FROM OUR GOVERNMENT? THIS IS OUR COUNTRY AND WE NEED TO TAKE IT BACK. VOTE FOR POLITICIAN’S THAT WILL WORK FOR THE PEOPLE. GET OBAMA AND ANY OTHERS LIKE HIM OUT OF OFFICE. STUDY WHO YOU ARE VOTING FOR.

Posted by ramsglen | Report as abusive
 

WHY DO WE PUT UP WITH THIS AND ALL THE OTHER GARBAGE FROM OUR GOVERNMENT? THIS IS OUR COUNTRY AND WE NEED TO TAKE IT BACK. VOTE FOR POLITICIAN’S THAT WILL WORK FOR THE PEOPLE. GET OBAMA AND ANY OTHERS LIKE HIM OUT OF OFFICE. STUDY WHO YOU ARE VOTING FOR.

Posted by ramsglen | Report as abusive
 

Unless there is absolutely no other way, I refuse to fly. It is that simple. Since 9/11 I can count the number of times I’ve flown on one hand – and I have hundreds of thousands of miles under my belt in aircraft. The ironic thing is that all these rules and crap do nothing to enhance my safety. Every credible danger to an aircraft has made it through security – which is always ready to catch the last threat they missed, never anything new. The reality is that 9/11 changed the dynamic. Now, no terrorist will be able to pull anything off, the passengers will stop them rather than being passive – as they did with the underwear bomber. Dispense with the TSA. Dispense with all the intrusion. It is inane and meaningless.

Posted by majkmushrm | Report as abusive
 

How about offering some real choices in the poll:

- Yes, it is likely that I will fly less as a result of the security measures.

- Yes, I will fly less, but for other reasons.

- No, I will continue to fly the same amount. The security measures are justified.

- No, I will continue to fly the same amount, despite the fact that the security measures are unjustified.

- I do not fly, and never have.

- Undecided.

Posted by CanyonLiveOak | Report as abusive
 

In most of the world, freedom is free. In America, freedom ain’t free.

Posted by bao | Report as abusive
 

In March 2011 I drove ~1,800 miles for work to avoid the TSA body scanners and intrusive patdowns.

This cost me Time and Money. I prefer to fly. It is cheaper, faster, and safer, but I prefer even more to not be molested and not have a digital image of my body saved or seen.

I plan to avoid flying until the body scanners are not used and the intrusive patdowns are eliminated.

To be legal, the TSA must have a warrant or probable cause and arrest the suspect before a patdown. Currently the TSA is operating illegally.

It is clear the TSA efforts are not about making the USA safer. Janet Napolitano said the US-Mexico border is secure, which it is no.

I can only pray for God’s help and for good elected officials who will correct the problems and wrong doings in the TSA. Protect The People from the TSA.

Posted by Law2001 | Report as abusive
 

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