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May 13, 2009 06:39 EDT

from MacroScope:

Economy: Getting better or just less bad?

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In much the same way that analysts have been debating whether equities are in a bear market rally or a new bull market, economists now have to deal with the question of whether the global economy is just bottoming out or is now actually recovering. The two things are obviously linked as BlackRock equities chief Bob Doll indicated when he said this week that equity markets will require the economic backdrop to actually improve rather than simply grow less bad if rises are to be sustained.

The less-dreadful-than-feared syndrome has been around for some time. U.S. markets, for example, found themselves cheering the loss of  539,000 jobs in April simply because its was the smallest since October and looked to be an improvement.

But talk of green shoots, a somewhat overused euphemism for the start of economic revival, has also been on the increase: European Central Bank President Jean-Claude Trichet spoke on Monday about the pick-up in GDP evident in certain areas; China said its efforts to boost growth were working; and a lot of institutional investors are acting as if the worst is over.

So, bottoming out or on the way up?  Comments below please.

(Reuters photo: Danish Ishmail)

COMMENT

I would say its getting less bad, decision makers like Trichet will always try to preach a positive message, they simply have to because they know that they can cause financial armageddon if they publicly lose faith.

May 8, 2009 09:21 EDT

Jobs: Bad news or good sign?

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If you’re one of the 539,000 people who lost their job last month, do you have reason to be hopeful today? The stock market seems to think so. And many of those who work in the financial sector say the April jobless report, which included an unemployment rate at a quarter-century high around 9 percent, indicates the economy is near bottom. One analyst said, “May looks much more favorable”; said another: “You can make the case that the panic layoffs that we saw at the turn of the year are starting to ease.”

Not everyone was optimistic. “The big question is has the peak in job losses hit? I am somewhat skeptical that we have seen the absolute worst of it, but you can’t rule that out,” said Jay Mueller, a senior portfolio manager at Wells Capital Management.

What do you think? When it comes to job losses, is the worst behind us?

COMMENT

A huge number of all the manufacturing jobs that have been shed will never return to the Us or to Europe. Multinationals took advantage of the recession to sack their expensive Us/European workforce and once the economy starts to recover they will create new production facilities in low wage countries.

Jan 9, 2009 10:10 EST

Jobs: How bad will it get?

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The economy lost over half a million jobs in December and shed the greatest number of workers in 2008 since the end of World War II. The grim news didn’t stop there: the unemployment rate jumped to 7.2 percent, the highest in 16 years. Many analysts say it will only get worse before it gets better.

“The job situation is ugly and is going to get uglier. There’s no reason to expect hiring anytime in the next three to six months,” said Richard Yamarone, chief economist at Argus Research in New York. Tempus Consulting’s Matt Esteve agrees. “No matter how you look at it, those are dismal numbers,” he said.

How does all this make you feel about the nation’s economy and your own personal job and financial situation? More importantly, how is the economic environment making you change your behavior?

On the wider stage, do you think the dire unemployment picture will be President George W. Bush’s legacy and will it get better under President-elect Barack Obama?

COMMENT

I have been out of work since August, 2006. All I can say is be positive about your situation and Volunteer your time. Also, consider the Peace Corps as an option.

Dec 5, 2008 08:49 EST

Reaction to shocking jobless data

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November’s job losses were the steepest since December 1974, when 602,000 jobs were shed. Analysts polled by Reuters had predicted a reduction of 340,000 jobs.

“This is a clear employment blowout. Firms are reacting as dramatically as they can to make sure they have cost structures they can survive the recession we are in,” said Joel Naroff, president of Naroff Economic Advisors.

One reader commenting on the site feels the job losses have not hit bottom. “I predict 30% unemployment by March of 2009. The retailers are gonna tank right after Christmas. Look for some really good deals!” wrote Smacktle.

Not all responses were as dire.

“Well these are pretty bad numbers. This will be a real test to see how much bad news is priced into the markets. Futures are down quite a bit, but I actually expected them to be down a lot more given these terrible recessionary numbers,” says Jeff Kleintop, chief market strategist for LPL Financial in Boston.

“It might be hard in future months to get numbers that are any worse. It might be good that we raced to some of the worst numbers we’ve had because perhaps it can’t get incrementally worse.”

Some of our readers found the data less shocking.

COMMENT

Just keep in mind that many of us are self-employed or otherwise work in small businesses that don’t report layoffs. There are, I’m sure many thousands of Americans like me who don’t show up in the government figures. I’m sad to hear about 1/2 million people losing their jobs, but on the other hand I think, “Welcome to the club.”

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Dec 4, 2008 08:58 EST

Who’s walking the line?

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AT&T is joining the ranks of companies sending its employees to the unemployment line. The top U.S. phone company says it will cut 12,000 jobs as the economic crisis bites deeper. Chemical maker Dupont added its own dash of dour news, announcing 2,500 job cuts. While there was some cause for cheer from weekly jobless data that showed the number of workers filing new claims for benefits unexpectedly fell last week, the figure was still in line with a shrinking labor market and economy. So, really, no good news there.

“We are going to see more layoffs as the economy continues to weaken,” said Barclays capital economist Michelle Meyer.

What do you think? If you have a job, are you worried about losing it? If you’re out of work, how tough is the market?

COMMENT

Came across this interesting fun site which kind of acts like a stress buster – I bashed my ex-bosses to my heart’s content ;)http://www.angstcorner.com

Dec 3, 2008 13:18 EST

Any light in that tunnel?

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Private employers are slashing jobs and the services sector, which powers most of the economy, is in its worst slump ever. “It’s impossible to find any ray of light here,” Joel Prakken, chairman of Macroeconomic Advisers in St. Louis, Missouri, said of the job losses last month.

With the government working to bail out banks, and possibly automakers, and with a top adviser to President-elect Barack Obama underscoring the need for an economic stimulus package, do you think things will get better and when?

COMMENT

You can bet on your bingle berry rates are going down(not) I got a letter yesterday in the mail wanting me to borrow money at 7.5% the way times are and how tight money is, do they think I would.Thats to high at todays standards.

Jun 30, 2008 11:18 EDT

Pinching pennies

Times are tough for Americans as their wallets take multiple blows from the housing slump, rising oil and food prices, growing unemployment, inflation fears and recession talk. Many homeowners are facing negative equity, with mortgages bigger than their property’s value.

Even as recently as November, households were going into debt to maintain spending, but new numbers show that Americans are saving at the highest rate since March 1995.

With gasoline prices topping $4 per gallon, fewer Americans will be hitting the road for holidays. Die-hard sports fans are making sacrifices even as they refuse to give up the luxury of going to the game.

What are you sacrificing to make ends meet?

Caption: A vendor sells candy to fans attending the MLB interleague baseball game between the Chicago White Sox and Chicago Cubs in Chicago June 27, 2008. REUTERS/Frank Polich

COMMENT

Lets talk turkey:

Being fat or resembling a porker is no longer an option. It’s an added expense we cannot afford – getting over-weight costs money – right?

A good healthy diet, no gorging and plenty of exercise is a recipe for tackling the money problem – in more ways than one.

It will also stave off the blues…:-)

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