Comments on: Obama, immigration and “anchor babies” http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/2011/01/31/obama-immigration-and-anchor-babies/ Tue, 31 Mar 2015 01:18:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: ARJTurgot2 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/2011/01/31/obama-immigration-and-anchor-babies/#comment-969 Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:58:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/?p=145#comment-969 Want to have an interesting change in the debate, come up with an amnesty proposal that excludes the possibility of anyone entering illegally ever having the right to vote. What support there is from the left for amnesty is tied to their hope that they can collect the votes. Obama in his little speech where he said he would ‘reward his friends and punish his enemies’ pretty well laid out the thinking in the Democratic party. It doesn’t leave him with much credibility.

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By: S_K_V http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/2011/01/31/obama-immigration-and-anchor-babies/#comment-966 Tue, 08 Feb 2011 19:27:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/?p=145#comment-966 Learn history. Uneducated mobs are the most vulnerable and inflexible part of society. They have hard time to adjust to any changes. Look who and why fueled revolutions in XIX-XX centuries. It took good part of XX for Europe & US to become Developed World and elevate own poor to middle class.

No country can benefit from influx of low educated mobs.

1. Illegals don’t compete with collage graduates, they compete with US poor deny them jobs. Look at construction, landscaping, fast food etc. NPR report impact on wages rather that percent of employed illegals.

2. Illegals don’t pay taxes while using our social services: emergency rooms, schools, police, jails etc. In my town public school student cost ~$15,000.00.

3. Illegals cause stagnation the same way as slavery. US agriculture, construction became addicted to cheap illegal/salve labor. There is reason to risk innovation when you can abuse cheap labor.

I have no problem with 10 millions illegal Ph.D :).

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By: NormanRogers http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/2011/01/31/obama-immigration-and-anchor-babies/#comment-965 Tue, 08 Feb 2011 16:02:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/?p=145#comment-965 Yes, but what is an anchor baby anyway, except for…an American citizen?

Change the law, and then we’ll talk.

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By: echobravotango http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/2011/01/31/obama-immigration-and-anchor-babies/#comment-963 Sat, 05 Feb 2011 21:57:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/?p=145#comment-963 The Wall St. Journal reported on Sept.11.01 that Hank Kissinger was to be arrested for his part in the murder of Chile’s President Salvador Allende(see Nat’l Sec. Briefing Bk. #8.) Interestingly Sept. 11 2011 will mark the 38th Anniversary of the Cia directed coup which installed Dic-tater A. Pinochet and his murderous reign of terror. H.K. was never prosecuted for this or other crimes against humanity and Shrub II will never face charges in court either for his part in the implosion of the WTC complex on Sept.11.01(see architects&engineers911truth.org) The MIC is in charge of all foreign policy decisions, including those that effect immigration on the US southern boarder. The solution to this “problem of idealogical impurity” as georgie’s ghost writer put it is stunningly simple. Share economic intell with those nations whose people are forced to flee their own countries to seek a livable wage. By raising their standards of living foreign nationals will remain in their home countries and build up their own society. This will end “illegal immigration” for all intent and purpose. Investing in education & economic opportunities would stem violence and build a sustainable economy. The drug problem Reagan imported in his “one of a kind” presidency would end in 12 months if young people on both sides of the border had any hope of a real education and self determinant employment opportunities that were based upon sustainability not the illusion of “endless growth of expanding markets.”
As American icon John Wayne once said, “Life is tough, when you’re stupid it’s even tougher.” Education is the key to any healthy republic. In case you haven’t noticed things ain’t lookin’ too good for the next generation.

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By: hexazebra http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/2011/01/31/obama-immigration-and-anchor-babies/#comment-962 Sat, 05 Feb 2011 20:43:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/?p=145#comment-962 Before talking about illegal immigration let us take a look at the legal immigration wait time, see the link: http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/statistics/Em ployment%20Based%20I-485%20Pending%20Inv entory%20as%20of%20January%2005,%202011. pdf
In my opinion, the per country limit of 2800 per year per category is too low. Some categories, it may even take 20 years to get the green card. These are the people, sincerely waiting in line and maintaining their legal status every year, paying social security taxes and not elegible for any benefits until they get their citizenship. Their kids are not elegible for any financial assistance in college studies.

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By: Eric93 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/2011/01/31/obama-immigration-and-anchor-babies/#comment-961 Sat, 05 Feb 2011 20:42:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/?p=145#comment-961 None of these desired changes will come to pass until our failed ‘democracy’ is straightened out. We are ruled by an entrenched, arrogant, corrupt ‘Gerontocracy’ in Congress whose inclinations are to serve their ‘real’ constituency – which is not mainstream middleclass Americans. I recently found on wikipedia a ‘list of members of US congress by longevity’ which showed that there are over 100 members who have ‘served’ over 30 years. This is outrageous to me! In order to have a ‘democracy’ we need to have a reasonable turnover in congress and to obtain that we must have ‘term limits’ and ‘age limits’ in such ‘elected’ positions. Instead what we have is the same sort of entrenched corruption that caused the mobs in Egypt to drive them out for change. I’m surprised that Americans aren’t fed up enough to march on Congress with pitchforks, scythes, and torches as in the past. We seem to be a country of ‘wusses’.

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By: murzak http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/2011/01/31/obama-immigration-and-anchor-babies/#comment-960 Sat, 05 Feb 2011 16:51:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/?p=145#comment-960 Brittanicus,

‘LIBERTARIAN MEDIA’? Do you even know what a Libertarian is?

whatever_dude,

Though I am not one, it is Tea Partiers, not ‘Tea Baggers’.

Until existing laws are enforced to punish the businesses using illegal labor; what is the point of enacting any new legislation which will also be roundly ignored?

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By: JackMack http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/2011/01/31/obama-immigration-and-anchor-babies/#comment-959 Sat, 05 Feb 2011 14:31:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/?p=145#comment-959 The unadulterated truth about our immigration debate is, as most truths are, simple and easily apparent: the institutions that own our government profit from the inexhaustible supply of cheap, easily exploited labor, and thus any “reform” package will absolutely assure that the supply remains open.

All of the ranting about “anchor babies,” “Hispanics conquering the US,” “border security,” and all the rest of it is designed purely and simply to keep the real issue out of public view. The hospitality industry wants this labor. The agriculture industry wants this labor. The construction industry wants this labor. There will be no reform, period.

Move along.

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By: Pete_Murphy http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/2011/01/31/obama-immigration-and-anchor-babies/#comment-958 Sat, 05 Feb 2011 12:33:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/?p=145#comment-958 “… the debate over the reform had been affected by “a blend of isolationism, protectionism and nativism …”

A large and growing number of people oppposed to excessive immigration are motivated not by irrational fears but by a common sense understanding of the dangers of overpopulation. At a time when our population has out-stripped our resources and our ability to gainfully employ our ballooning labor force, it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to continue to import enough people to fill another major city every year.

Yes, we are a nation built by immigrants, but this isn’t the 19th century any longer. We’re the 3rd most populous nation behind China and India. Keep up our rate of immigration and our living standards will soon sink to match theirs.

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By: mheld45 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/2011/01/31/obama-immigration-and-anchor-babies/#comment-956 Sat, 05 Feb 2011 03:08:23 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/?p=145#comment-956 Here’s betting that any attempt at immigration reform will not include a debate about the (wisdom of having a) minimum wage. How often do we hear that illegal immigrants do the jobs that “Americans will not do”? In reality, no one knows if Americans will do landscaping or harvest oranges or wash dishes for (random figure) $4/hour because WE DON’T LET THEM. The fact that so many immigrants do these jobs at low wages proves that value-adding jobs exist at that level. Pray tell, what would be so wrong with American teens or former inmates or inner city youth doing these jobs? If we let them, i.e. eliminate the minimum wage, we will automatically cut down on illegal immigration because there will be fewer work opportunities on this side of the fence. If we’re really feeling ambitious, we could eliminate all taxes on jobs below (again random figure) $8/hour. That would stimulate hiring at that level and put Americans on a level playing field with illegals, again cutting down on illegal immigration. But again, it’ll never happen because free-market solutions are no longer desirable.

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