Comments on: The US elections and pandering to Israel http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/2011/09/23/the-us-elections-and-pandering-to-israel/ Tue, 31 Mar 2015 01:18:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Brazilian1 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/2011/09/23/the-us-elections-and-pandering-to-israel/#comment-1801 Tue, 27 Sep 2011 22:15:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/?p=318#comment-1801 Ok, Bernd, would you give Afghanistan to Al Qaeda? Then why would you give a state to HAMAS?

Take Hamas out of the Palestinian government and the Palestinians will have a state.

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By: TheTruthy http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/2011/09/23/the-us-elections-and-pandering-to-israel/#comment-1798 Sun, 25 Sep 2011 13:08:26 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/?p=318#comment-1798 When Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize, proponants like myself were slapped in the face by almost everyone else. After the UN speech, we were slapped in the face by Obama himself.

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By: coyotle http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/2011/09/23/the-us-elections-and-pandering-to-israel/#comment-1795 Sun, 25 Sep 2011 08:14:03 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/?p=318#comment-1795 True that Sinbad1…

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By: StopZionazis http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/2011/09/23/the-us-elections-and-pandering-to-israel/#comment-1794 Sun, 25 Sep 2011 07:40:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/?p=318#comment-1794 “Israel” was created in the time the UN was still made up of the colonial powers, hence the “illegal” creation of this colony was made possible.
Nowadays things are different in the UN, mainly because there are more countries, and the colonial powers had to release some of their power (but NOT all, like e.g. the right of VETO !!!).
So the US is using its VETO time and time again.
What the American people should look at, is how much money is spent on “Israel”, because the lobby is SO strong.
MORE money is spent on “Israel” then there is on Afro-Americans, the difference being that Afro-Americans pay huge amounts of US taxes, while “Israel” does NOT …
Given the fact that the economic crisis has MOST effect on those countries MOST in support of “Israel”, it is only a matter of time before the “money”-sucking will. finally stop.

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By: jwlee86 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/2011/09/23/the-us-elections-and-pandering-to-israel/#comment-1791 Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:24:26 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/?p=318#comment-1791 This may sound harsh and a bit like isolationism but this fight isn’t our problem. Neither country does any significant business with the United States, and this conflict has been siphoning financial and political resources from the united states for decades. Let them figure out there own border disputes. Last time I checked Israel or Palestine aren’t sending money to the U.S. to help with drug related violence at the U.S./Mexico border. If it weren’t for lobbyists in the U.S., our involvement would be much more limited and reasonable. I don’t have a side; my side is let them figure it out.

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By: Anonymous http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/2011/09/23/the-us-elections-and-pandering-to-israel/#comment-1788 Sat, 24 Sep 2011 07:14:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/?p=318#comment-1788 I watched Pres. Obamas speech and I was struck by the exact same thing… No mention of Palestinian plight but the full laundry list of israeli suffering. So dissapointing… It was so blatant and no one is buying this gross and imbalanced approach any longer . I aso saw the full speeches today of Abbas & Netanyahu.. I was struck by the backward thinking, fear mongering and the 4000 yr approach to justify statehood, by Netanyahu. His demenor was condescending to the UN members present, and his accusations of isreal being picked on by the UN for 20+ years and, playing the victim were wholly inappropriate. All this in contrast to Abbas who came off as a more credible and honest statesman. Times are changing, the US no longer holds the same diplomatic cards.. the middle east, north africa, Arabian peninsula fledgling democracies will make this a negotiation like no other…

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By: guestvisitor http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/2011/09/23/the-us-elections-and-pandering-to-israel/#comment-1786 Sat, 24 Sep 2011 05:08:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/?p=318#comment-1786 The Israeli leadership should take this opportunity to turn the world to their side instead of against them.

Announce that they would stop all settlements and remove all settlements erected since the indefada and recognize Palestine in the UN as a nation, if the Palestinians and their leaders immediately rennounce violence and agree to honest negociations for a truly peaceful coexistence.

The baseline would be :

1) to provide Israel with the security it needs, and

2) the Palestinians can return to much of their homeland and true freedom to live their lives as any people do in all free nations

If there is a will there is a way !!!

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By: boreal http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/2011/09/23/the-us-elections-and-pandering-to-israel/#comment-1785 Sat, 24 Sep 2011 04:22:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/?p=318#comment-1785 The US administration’s command ship is hijacked by Zionist pirates and their local bible thumper NeoCon accomplices. After the successful high treason they humiliated the skipper Mr. Obama, made him a cabin boy forcing him to clean the ship’s latrines. Then they dressed him up, put a copy of the UN speech in his hand – that was composed in Israel and approved by Mr. Netanyahu – and sent him off to the UN to read it in front of the world.

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By: StevenFeldman http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/2011/09/23/the-us-elections-and-pandering-to-israel/#comment-1783 Sat, 24 Sep 2011 03:50:14 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/?p=318#comment-1783 Coming from the keyboard of the man who claimed in a previous op-ed that Israel “seized the rest of British-mandate Palestine” in the 1967 Six-Day War, this irrational rant from Debusmann is nothing if not predictable.

There is apparently something intrinsically faulty with Obama issuing a speech at the UN which recalls the centuries of persecution, pogroms, Holocausts and terrorism suffered by the Jews but no problem at all with Obama issuing a speech in Cairo which suggests that the Palestinians, who have refused all offers of statehood in favor of bloodletting, are suffering equally.

There is the insipid and false assertion of “relentless construction of Jewish settlements in the West Bank” when in fact, there has been no new growth in Jewish settlements for years.

There is the misleading reference to “1967 borders” as a basis for negotiations when in reality, there are only 1949 armistice lines — which would leave Israel a mere 9 miles wide and vulnerable to the same type of shelling and rocketing from surrounding Arab states and terror groups she experienced for nearly two decades.

There is the reference to a remark by President Truman suggesting that he supported Israel, in part, because his constituency included Jews but no mention of the fact that those “experts” who warned against partition were mainly officials from the US State Department who were rabidly antisemitic and beholden to Arab oil interests.

And underlying it all, is the pervasive and patent canard, held by all antisemites, that the Jews control American politics – along with the media, the banks, and possibly the lunar cycle.

But just remember, it was the Saudi King that Obama bowed to, not Benjamin Netanyahu.

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By: actnow http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/2011/09/23/the-us-elections-and-pandering-to-israel/#comment-1782 Sat, 24 Sep 2011 03:17:24 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/bernddebusmann/?p=318#comment-1782 America needs policies that are right for America. That may or may not mean always siding with Israel. It’s time to be an honest broker, not Israel’s pet.

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