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		<title>By: John C Abell</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/blog/2007/09/14/is-the-ipod-gasp-doomed/#comment-317498</link>
		<dc:creator>John C Abell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anybody say "Palm?" 

The revolutionary device -- out-doing even Apple, whose Newton was vastly inferior -- was king for only a few more years than the iPod has been (and literally had no competition). But wireless convergence killed the classic PIM, and the company, while publicly acknowledging the threat at the time, was unable to neatly dominate the transition, Treo notwithstanding (can anybody say, "Blackberry?")

Among the genius strains at Apple is their ability to turn disruptive change to its advantage, and to see opportunity in the flaws of existing products. When the iPod was introduced, the flaws in existing products were usability and seamless integration with the means of fulfillment (enter iTunes). The coming flaw presents a new opportunity to converge into a device that has already absorbed a host of single-purpose devices: PIM, camera, phone, Internet, email. The iPhone is the new standard, and guess who is best positioned to take advantage of iPod fatigue? And guess who is better positioned to continuing to make every last penny from stand-alone sales as the market turns? Let's just say I'm not shorting AAPL.

Meanwhile, Palm continues its sad sack afterlife by first pre-announcing the &lt;a href="http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palm-foleo-hands-on/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Foleo&lt;/a&gt;, a device which would have served no known niche, and then &lt;a href="http://blog.tmcnet.com/wireless-mobility/tag/discontinue" rel="nofollow"&gt;killing it&lt;/a&gt; before launch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anybody say &#8220;Palm?&#8221; </p>
<p>The revolutionary device &#8212; out-doing even Apple, whose Newton was vastly inferior &#8212; was king for only a few more years than the iPod has been (and literally had no competition). But wireless convergence killed the classic PIM, and the company, while publicly acknowledging the threat at the time, was unable to neatly dominate the transition, Treo notwithstanding (can anybody say, &#8220;Blackberry?&#8221;)</p>
<p>Among the genius strains at Apple is their ability to turn disruptive change to its advantage, and to see opportunity in the flaws of existing products. When the iPod was introduced, the flaws in existing products were usability and seamless integration with the means of fulfillment (enter iTunes). The coming flaw presents a new opportunity to converge into a device that has already absorbed a host of single-purpose devices: PIM, camera, phone, Internet, email. The iPhone is the new standard, and guess who is best positioned to take advantage of iPod fatigue? And guess who is better positioned to continuing to make every last penny from stand-alone sales as the market turns? Let&#8217;s just say I&#8217;m not shorting AAPL.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Palm continues its sad sack afterlife by first pre-announcing the <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/30/palm-foleo-hands-on/" rel="nofollow">Foleo</a>, a device which would have served no known niche, and then <a href="http://blog.tmcnet.com/wireless-mobility/tag/discontinue" rel="nofollow">killing it</a> before launch.</p>
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		<title>By: RJ</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/blog/2007/09/14/is-the-ipod-gasp-doomed/#comment-316729</link>
		<dc:creator>RJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ipod will still be around for a long time because people are forgetting the media.  Currently it's mostly a music device, but in a few years, video and communications will dominant the ipod.  Imagine 100's of videos and movies in your ipod.  As memory goes up, we will figure out more uses for that memory.  Plus, as a device with wifi, the ipod will have allot more uses as well.  And there could be a new killer app for the ipod in the future that we haven't thought of.  True, the phone will take more share, but there will a future for the ipod if it becomes a communicator and external extension of the computer.  It will be around for many years to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ipod will still be around for a long time because people are forgetting the media.  Currently it&#8217;s mostly a music device, but in a few years, video and communications will dominant the ipod.  Imagine 100&#8217;s of videos and movies in your ipod.  As memory goes up, we will figure out more uses for that memory.  Plus, as a device with wifi, the ipod will have allot more uses as well.  And there could be a new killer app for the ipod in the future that we haven&#8217;t thought of.  True, the phone will take more share, but there will a future for the ipod if it becomes a communicator and external extension of the computer.  It will be around for many years to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Levi</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/blog/2007/09/14/is-the-ipod-gasp-doomed/#comment-314167</link>
		<dc:creator>Levi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 06:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iphone. its the new ipod.

really it is, or at least, in time it will be.
Apple has foreseen this as you say. Does that mean the iPod is dead?

far from it.

Music player phones currently on the market lack the functionality and ease of use of the ipod.
The iphone was released to combat these phones and challenge them.

The iPod itself will eventually just become part of the iphone software rather than a seperate unit, and its every bit as easy to use, and as innovative (ie- coverflow album art) as a dedicated ipod.

so why are Apple still releasing iPods?

because at the moment, the best ipod is an ipod, not an iphone... 
The iphone has limited storage capacity due to cost. In time the cost of flash will dive and larger capacities (such as 80gb and 160gb now seen in current ipods) will be released.

The iPod is not dead, just, it will eventually live in the iPhone instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iphone. its the new ipod.</p>
<p>really it is, or at least, in time it will be.<br />
Apple has foreseen this as you say. Does that mean the iPod is dead?</p>
<p>far from it.</p>
<p>Music player phones currently on the market lack the functionality and ease of use of the ipod.<br />
The iphone was released to combat these phones and challenge them.</p>
<p>The iPod itself will eventually just become part of the iphone software rather than a seperate unit, and its every bit as easy to use, and as innovative (ie- coverflow album art) as a dedicated ipod.</p>
<p>so why are Apple still releasing iPods?</p>
<p>because at the moment, the best ipod is an ipod, not an iphone&#8230;<br />
The iphone has limited storage capacity due to cost. In time the cost of flash will dive and larger capacities (such as 80gb and 160gb now seen in current ipods) will be released.</p>
<p>The iPod is not dead, just, it will eventually live in the iPhone instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/blog/2007/09/14/is-the-ipod-gasp-doomed/#comment-314044</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 04:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your article. The cell phones are increasingly displacing the iPods and other multimedia players.

Steve Jobs is also wrong in thinking everyone wants to watch video on little screens. We don't. We want to listen to music and audio.

The iPhone as a phone is a bad product. Steve Jobs will not meet his arrogant prediction of selling 10 million iPhones during the first year.

Why do you think the iPhone prices were slashed so quickly?  Why was the 4GB iPhone discontinued? iPhone sales have dropped considerably. Steve Jobs knows it and is in trouble.

The iPhone will follow the same shameful future of the Apple Newton; some good technology, poorly executed by an arrogant company with too much greed.

The iPod demise is not Steve Jobs direct fault as an increasing number of inexpensive and affordable cell phones begin to eat up iPod market share as multgimedia players.  It's Steve Jobs fault in that he has focused too much on video and failed to make a good iPhone that is actually smart and decent at making telephone calls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your article. The cell phones are increasingly displacing the iPods and other multimedia players.</p>
<p>Steve Jobs is also wrong in thinking everyone wants to watch video on little screens. We don&#8217;t. We want to listen to music and audio.</p>
<p>The iPhone as a phone is a bad product. Steve Jobs will not meet his arrogant prediction of selling 10 million iPhones during the first year.</p>
<p>Why do you think the iPhone prices were slashed so quickly?  Why was the 4GB iPhone discontinued? iPhone sales have dropped considerably. Steve Jobs knows it and is in trouble.</p>
<p>The iPhone will follow the same shameful future of the Apple Newton; some good technology, poorly executed by an arrogant company with too much greed.</p>
<p>The iPod demise is not Steve Jobs direct fault as an increasing number of inexpensive and affordable cell phones begin to eat up iPod market share as multgimedia players.  It&#8217;s Steve Jobs fault in that he has focused too much on video and failed to make a good iPhone that is actually smart and decent at making telephone calls.</p>
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		<title>By: mcogilvie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/blog/2007/09/14/is-the-ipod-gasp-doomed/#comment-313856</link>
		<dc:creator>mcogilvie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 04:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only mobile phone that is a great music player is the iPhone. People don't like other music-playing phones because they want to play their own music which they already have paid for. They don't want to pay ridiculous prices for the right to play musics on one limited device.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only mobile phone that is a great music player is the iPhone. People don&#8217;t like other music-playing phones because they want to play their own music which they already have paid for. They don&#8217;t want to pay ridiculous prices for the right to play musics on one limited device.</p>
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		<title>By: don</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/blog/2007/09/14/is-the-ipod-gasp-doomed/#comment-313854</link>
		<dc:creator>don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 04:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I thinks it's all been said. I can sum up everyones comments. Fienburg is an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I thinks it&#8217;s all been said. I can sum up everyones comments. Fienburg is an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: John Walton</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/blog/2007/09/14/is-the-ipod-gasp-doomed/#comment-312064</link>
		<dc:creator>John Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 08:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As iPods and other devices become more portable computers it will be cell phones that become obsolete.  A wireless voice technology is rather old fashioned at this point next to computer wireless technology such as WiFi where voice can be just a small part of what it can do.  Of course that is quite limited now at least until the old analog TV signals become available at the end of January 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As iPods and other devices become more portable computers it will be cell phones that become obsolete.  A wireless voice technology is rather old fashioned at this point next to computer wireless technology such as WiFi where voice can be just a small part of what it can do.  Of course that is quite limited now at least until the old analog TV signals become available at the end of January 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, whatever the future, Apple will likely dominate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, whatever the future, Apple will likely dominate it.</p>
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		<title>By: LexM</title>
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		<dc:creator>LexM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"[M]obile phones will rapidly rise as an option for consumers desiring media-on-the-go, eventually supplanting the iPod and all hardware based music devices. That is, once problems with battery life, ease of use, and consumers magnetism-to-all-things-Apple are overcome."

Apple has already delivered the device that does all that - without having to overcome "consumers [sic] magnetism to all-things-Apple." Great prediction, Brion. Your future is already here.

I predict that in the future people will figure out that analysts at The Diffusion Group named Brion Feinberg have nothing worthwhile or interesting to say. Oh, no! My future is already here, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;[M]obile phones will rapidly rise as an option for consumers desiring media-on-the-go, eventually supplanting the iPod and all hardware based music devices. That is, once problems with battery life, ease of use, and consumers magnetism-to-all-things-Apple are overcome.&#8221;</p>
<p>Apple has already delivered the device that does all that - without having to overcome &#8220;consumers [sic] magnetism to all-things-Apple.&#8221; Great prediction, Brion. Your future is already here.</p>
<p>I predict that in the future people will figure out that analysts at The Diffusion Group named Brion Feinberg have nothing worthwhile or interesting to say. Oh, no! My future is already here, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Firestone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Firestone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your example may be flawed.

To the extent that we don't like carrying things around with us, combining things seems to be a trend.  

Of course, when they are combined like that there are problems.  If you phone needs repairing, you have to do without your phone, camera, texting and e-mail device and your mp3 player.

When you lend your phone, you lend everything.  So, there will probably be competing trends.

We'll have to see how this pans out.  It's possible, that like the simm card, you will have camera cards and mp3 cards.  Then, you can just transfer them to another phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your example may be flawed.</p>
<p>To the extent that we don&#8217;t like carrying things around with us, combining things seems to be a trend.  </p>
<p>Of course, when they are combined like that there are problems.  If you phone needs repairing, you have to do without your phone, camera, texting and e-mail device and your mp3 player.</p>
<p>When you lend your phone, you lend everything.  So, there will probably be competing trends.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll have to see how this pans out.  It&#8217;s possible, that like the simm card, you will have camera cards and mp3 cards.  Then, you can just transfer them to another phone.</p>
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