Comments on: S&P states the much-needed obvious on U.S. debt http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/2011/04/18/sp-states-the-much-needed-obvious-on-u-s-debt/ Mon, 26 Sep 2016 03:26:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: yoda4President http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/2011/04/18/sp-states-the-much-needed-obvious-on-u-s-debt/comment-page-1/#comment-7101 Wed, 20 Apr 2011 16:28:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/columns/?p=5800#comment-7101 What aggravates me the most is that Clinton fixed this problem. Our only worry was what to do with “the Surplus.” For 8 years I watched the surplus turn into a growing deficit. I cannot remember a single day that I didn’t hear Dick Cheney utter the words “we’ll just tack it onto the deficit.” What aggravated me the most was all my conservative friends and the lame stupid excuses I kept hearing when I pointed this out and expressed concern about the growing debt. “Other countries owe us more than we owe them” or “we don’t really owe that money” and my favorite: “the world depends on us too much to let us fail.”
It is scary how many educated people seemed to think that somehow the country was getting money for free. That this could just go on and on without consequence just because the GOP told them not to worry about it. Now that a democrat is in office of course the debt suddenly matters and is a problem.
We’ve been through this before people! Clinton balanced the budget. Go back and look at 1994/95. It’s the exact same story – same lines – new faces.
Either Obama will balance the budget again and then the next GOP president we get will cut taxes for his rich friends and family and give us another deficit. The GOP has promised to provide us with eternal deficits. They insist that cutting taxes (on the rich of course) raises revenue. So they will always give us a bigger deficit.
Reagan cut taxes. The economy recovered and revenue increased. Revenue always increases when an economy recovers. Reagan then raised taxes three times in the coming years to restore lost revenue for concern over the growing deficit.
Clinton raised taxes. The economy recovered. Revenues increased as they always do. One could just as easily argue that raising taxes fixes an economy. It worked for Clinton. Right?
Cutting taxes on the working poor always helps the economy because almost all that money goes into consumption and debt reduction. Cutting taxes on the wealthy could only have this same effect if all that money were either spent towards consumption or invested in job creation in this country. In reality most of that money goes to finance public debt or is invested in job creation somewhere in the world (not likely in this country).
The GOP policy of shifting the tax burden off of the rich onto the working class is sending more money into creating jobs overseas and less into feeding our economy. And as long as the GOP exists this will only get worse.

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By: breezinthru http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/2011/04/18/sp-states-the-much-needed-obvious-on-u-s-debt/comment-page-1/#comment-7086 Wed, 20 Apr 2011 02:47:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/columns/?p=5800#comment-7086 Precisely, johnlewisgrant!

Bernanke has already indicated that the Federal Reserve will continue reinvesting dividends as QE2 draws to a close.

He knows that QE2 has been masking and mediating some very unpleasant market forces. Now that we are only several weeks away from the end of QE2, Bernanke, Obama and anyone else with an interest in the health of the American economy must be worried.

Reinvesting Federal Reserve dividends won’t provide anywhere near the economic lubrication that QE2 provided.

If the economy doesn’t hit its stride as the QE2 mask falls away, we’ll finally see just how ugly this situation has become.

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By: AdamSmith http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/2011/04/18/sp-states-the-much-needed-obvious-on-u-s-debt/comment-page-1/#comment-7084 Wed, 20 Apr 2011 01:01:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/columns/?p=5800#comment-7084 Quote: “the United States will soon look measurably sicker in financial terms than other AAA-rated sovereigns”

There was news today that Greece’s deterioring payments condition this week is worrying many observers that the contagion may yet spread to Spain, as earlier feared. And if so, the very existence of the Euro is in doubt.

So, my QUESTION is: When you say the United States will soon look measurably sicker than other AAA-rated sovereigns, exactly which AAA-rated sovereigns are you talking about?

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By: AdamSmith http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/2011/04/18/sp-states-the-much-needed-obvious-on-u-s-debt/comment-page-1/#comment-7082 Tue, 19 Apr 2011 20:42:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/columns/?p=5800#comment-7082 johnlewisgrant – Well said.

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By: arron http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/2011/04/18/sp-states-the-much-needed-obvious-on-u-s-debt/comment-page-1/#comment-7077 Tue, 19 Apr 2011 16:33:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/columns/?p=5800#comment-7077 This is the breakdown of America, buying into this propaganda is pressure to tax unfairly, just like the inflation tax by the fed, people must default on this illusive debt and bring these users to justice.

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By: KnutSchumacher http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/2011/04/18/sp-states-the-much-needed-obvious-on-u-s-debt/comment-page-1/#comment-7075 Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:54:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/columns/?p=5800#comment-7075 Haha, and this people call them self still great Nation. I would call them broke Nation. They should stop meddling in other countries affairs and concentrate on their economy but I think their ego is to big for that.

History told us that any Empire or World-Power will come to an end. The same thing will happen to America. I wish that I’m still alive to that.

To the American people: Wake up and tell your Government what top do. How comes that a President choose the same people who brought this financial crisis in 2008 to the World as their financial advisers. It must be a big joke. No prosecution nothing. It shows clearly that the USA is the same way corrupt like any other State in the World. This big fishes eat always the small once.

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By: anarcurt http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/2011/04/18/sp-states-the-much-needed-obvious-on-u-s-debt/comment-page-1/#comment-7074 Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:53:25 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/columns/?p=5800#comment-7074 The government has become unable to govern. There is no longer a common good. I truly don’t know how much longer the union can survive. I would be shocked if the current 50 states were still a cohesive political entity by the end of the century.

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By: Fishrl http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/2011/04/18/sp-states-the-much-needed-obvious-on-u-s-debt/comment-page-1/#comment-7072 Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:48:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/columns/?p=5800#comment-7072 S&P gave AAA ratings to junk bonds because the issuers paid for them. They should be in prison. They should not be dictating U.S fiscal policy.

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By: charliethompto http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/2011/04/18/sp-states-the-much-needed-obvious-on-u-s-debt/comment-page-1/#comment-7071 Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:48:25 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/columns/?p=5800#comment-7071 The Tech Bubble, The Housing Bubble, and now the US Equity Bubble. All were there in plain sight. All were ignored. We were told each time why messengers of doom were crackpots.

Ugly results all around.

So will we commit our nation to fiscal responsibility? Would we dare pass a Constitutional Amendment mandating balanced budgets?

Probably not. And when the bubble bursts, who will bail us out this time?

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By: lhathaway http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/2011/04/18/sp-states-the-much-needed-obvious-on-u-s-debt/comment-page-1/#comment-7070 Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:21:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/columns/?p=5800#comment-7070 S&P should be downgraded itself to such a low status that no one pays attention to them anymore. If they could rate sub-prime mortgage backed securities as AAA, then how can you trust their recommendation, or their motives, and they certainly showed they had motives in their derivatives ratings, ever again? They should not be in business anymore, neither should Goldman or any of the others who brought about this fiscal crisis which is causing the huge run up in the US debt. They were criminal in their actions and here we are running around panicked because of their ‘recommendations’. If they were so completely wrong about the sub-primes, maybe they’re wrong about the US debt as well. Maybe they are only acting in their own best interests again.

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