Comments on: Summit silence on Greece is best option for now http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/2012/05/24/summit-silence-on-greece-is-best-option-for-now/ Mon, 26 Sep 2016 03:26:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: scythe http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/2012/05/24/summit-silence-on-greece-is-best-option-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-9270 Sun, 27 May 2012 10:17:25 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/?p=11697#comment-9270 essentially yes, however … there was nothing they could add to match IMF Lagarde`s blistering injection of truth into greek corruption and dishonesty

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may  /25/payback-time-lagarde-greeks?INTCMP= SRCH

(quote) “The International Monetary Fund has ratcheted up the pressure on crisis-hit Greece after its managing director, Christine Lagarde, said she has more sympathy for children deprived of decent schooling in sub-Saharan Africa than for many of those facing poverty in Athens.

“In an uncompromising interview with the Guardian, Lagarde insists it is payback time for Greece and makes it clear that the IMF has no intention of softening the terms of the country’s austerity package.”

“Using some of the bluntest language of the two-and-a-half-year debt crisis, she says Greek parents have to take responsibility if their children are being affected by spending cuts. “Parents have to pay their tax,” she says.”

no reform, no money

stay corrupt, stay with the drachma

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By: Agenda1789 http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/2012/05/24/summit-silence-on-greece-is-best-option-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-9260 Fri, 25 May 2012 13:49:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/?p=11697#comment-9260 Cometh the hour, cometh the woman? Please stand up “Angela Merkel the European”

Make no mistake, Europe is facing its darkest hour since World War II. The fallout from the demise of the Euro will affect all of us to some extent. Jobs and homes will be lost, savings and pensions will be damaged and the resultant social breakdown will undoubtedly lead to disorder and chaos, with who knows what other repercussions.

“To be Europe, or not to be Europe,” that’s the fundamental question.

Today’s European project was founded quite rightly after WWII by a desire to wipe away the legacy of a divided and war-ridden Europe, and to build a new continent of like-minded citizens, bonded together by a mutual rejection of Fascism’s divisive philosophy. “The family of Europe” was meant to supercede and protect against the distortion and abuse of national identity politics.

Undoubtedly great progress has been made over the intervening 67 years, and in many ways the Euro itself has come to symbolise that transformation.

Where once we had 17 different countries each with their own border controls and monetary systems, we now have open highways and just one currency that is equally viable and valuable in Dublin, Berlin and Athens.

But as with all families, there are undoubtedly going to be times when the bonds are threatened by the differences between the members.

Some of the siblings will be better at certain skills than others. Some will find it hard to let go of historical abuses. Some will be bullies and some will be martyrs. Some will cry wolf, and some will take advantage of their fellow siblings while happily pointing the finger at anyone else.

And yet, just as with families, it’s how you resolve these differences that define whether the family stays together and lives happily ever after, or fractures and experiences the torrid emotional, financial and physical impact of a messy family breakup.

Because being in a family, just like being in any sort of relationship, requires commitment, flexibility, forgiveness and an acceptance of your responsibilities.

Right now, Greece needs to accept its responsibilities and pay its debts or leave the family. And equally, Germany needs to accept that if it wants to be in the family, it has to exhibit flexibility and if necessary, a portion of forgiveness.

No relationship is ever going to be perfect, and we should all evolve a little more every day. But without the commitment – as mandated in this case by an election or a referendum – there cannot be a family unit.

Either we’re in Europe together – with all its associated historical and future baggage – or we’re not: it’s as simple as that.

So where does that leave us today?

As at all great crossroads in history, we need a hero, or in this case, perhaps a heroine. Stand up, Angela Merkel. But, and this is the crux of the whole issue, don’t stand up “Angela Merkel the German”, stand up “Angela Merkel the European”.

The whole debate over the Euro crisis is being argued and fought from behind national lines. Should the Germans help the Greeks? Should the Dutch agree with the Irish and the Italians, etc, etc, etc?

And yet that very positioning is missing the whole point. This is not a financial crisis. This is a political crisis, and the crisis is over our identity. Either we are Europeans first and Germans, Italians, Finns, Portuguese, French, Latvians, etc second, or vice versa.

And that is why “Angela Merkel the German” shouldn’t be standing up in Brussels telling the Greeks to sort their house out. Instead, “Angela Merkel the European” should be standing up in Athens saying: “We still want you to be in the family and we’ll help you, but you need to accept your responsibilities.”

Then if the Greeks still want to be Greeks first and Europeans second, so be it. Either you’re European first and foremost and you take all the responsibilities that come with it, or you leave the family.

Therefore, can “Angela Merkel the European”, or frankly anyone else who can stand up for all of Europe, please do so very quickly.

– A citizen of Europe

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By: Agenda1789 http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/2012/05/24/summit-silence-on-greece-is-best-option-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-9259 Fri, 25 May 2012 13:48:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/?p=11697#comment-9259 Cometh the hour, cometh the woman? Please stand up “Angela Merkel the European”

Make no mistake, Europe is facing its darkest hour since World War II. The fallout from the demise of the Euro will affect all of us to some extent. Jobs and homes will be lost, savings and pensions will be damaged and the resultant social breakdown will undoubtedly lead to disorder and chaos, with who knows what other repercussions.

“To be Europe, or not to be Europe,” that’s the fundamental question.

Today’s European project was founded quite rightly after WWII by a desire to wipe away the legacy of a divided and war-ridden Europe, and to build a new continent of like-minded citizens, bonded together by a mutual rejection of Fascism’s divisive philosophy. “The family of Europe” was meant to supercede and protect against the distortion and abuse of national identity politics.

Undoubtedly great progress has been made over the intervening 67 years, and in many ways the Euro itself has come to symbolise that transformation.

Where once we had 17 different countries each with their own border controls and monetary systems, we now have open highways and just one currency that is equally viable and valuable in Dublin, Berlin and Athens.

But as with all families, there are undoubtedly going to be times when the bonds are threatened by the differences between the members.

Some of the siblings will be better at certain skills than others. Some will find it hard to let go of historical abuses. Some will be bullies and some will be martyrs. Some will cry wolf, and some will take advantage of their fellow siblings while happily pointing the finger at anyone else.

And yet, just as with families, it’s how you resolve these differences that define whether the family stays together and lives happily ever after, or fractures and experiences the torrid emotional, financial and physical impact of a messy family breakup.

Because being in a family, just like being in any sort of relationship, requires commitment, flexibility, forgiveness and an acceptance of your responsibilities.

Right now, Greece needs to accept its responsibilities and pay its debts or leave the family. And equally, Germany needs to accept that if it wants to be in the family, it has to exhibit flexibility and if necessary, a portion of forgiveness.

No relationship is ever going to be perfect, and we should all evolve a little more every day. But without the commitment – as mandated in this case by an election or a referendum – there cannot be a family unit.

Either we’re in Europe together – with all its associated historical and future baggage – or we’re not: it’s as simple as that.

So where does that leave us today?

As at all great crossroads in history, we need a hero, or in this case, perhaps a heroine. Stand up, Angela Merkel. But, and this is the crux of the whole issue, don’t stand up “Angela Merkel the German”, stand up “Angela Merkel the European”.

The whole debate over the Euro crisis is being argued and fought from behind national lines. Should the Germans help the Greeks? Should the Dutch agree with the Irish and the Italians, etc, etc, etc?

And yet that very positioning is missing the whole point. This is not a financial crisis. This is a political crisis, and the crisis is over our identity. Either we are Europeans first and Germans, Italians, Finns, Portuguese, French, Latvians, etc second, or vice versa.

And that is why “Angela Merkel the German” shouldn’t be standing up in Brussels telling the Greeks to sort their house out. Instead, “Angela Merkel the European” should be standing up in Athens saying: “We still want you to be in the family and we’ll help you, but you need to accept your responsibilities.”

Then if the Greeks still want to be Greeks first and Europeans second, so be it. Either you’re European first and foremost and you take all the responsibilities that come with it, or you leave the family.

Therefore, can “Angela Merkel the European”, or frankly anyone else who can stand up for all of Europe, please do so very quickly.

– A citizen of Europe

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By: MediocreFred http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/2012/05/24/summit-silence-on-greece-is-best-option-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-9250 Thu, 24 May 2012 18:00:56 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/?p=11697#comment-9250 Whistling past the graveyard?
No silence is not golden, it is deafening.
It is WAY past time to acknowledge that you can’t starve the EuroZone into prosperity.
Germany is wrong, France is correct.

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