Comments on: Is China ready for the Olympics?

By: philippe

philippe — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:31:32 +0000

I amnot anti-english or anti-US. Where can you get this impression? Ok. please stop the debate between us two.

The tropic of the debate is Tibet, China and the Games.
It is not French version, it is another article: an interview. If you would like to, please try to find an interview in the site of socio13.wordpress. The interview named “Tibet : Réponses sur l’Histoire, la religion, la classe des moines, les problèmes sociaux, la répression, le rôle des USA…” It is an interview with a French-speaking scientist (more or less) who worked 3 years in Tibet. After reading it, first, I didn’t entirely believe it, only considered it as her own view. However, when I see what is happening now and the article written by Engdahl, I believe this interview.

My logic is here: who has gains (qui gagne) from what is happening now? Tibetans? Not really. China, surely no. So should there be someboby gain something, n’est-ce pas? Who? Who is behind all these? With what political or/and economical purpose? Do you really believe all these happened in Tibet without organisation?

By: Conscientious Observer

Conscientious Observer — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 03:25:06 +0000

Since when hasn’t there been various organisations in collarboration with a government trying to remove or destabilize the power of a larger country’s government? Since when hasn’t the various entities, secret or otherwise, within the USA government been playing ‘chess’ on a global scale with other countries / regimes etc.? Ok, yes, before the existence of the US, 300+ years ago, but then it was various European countries. What else isn’t new? The ‘Tibetans’ outstide China have obviously got a lot of time on their hands. Then there are the questions, how many are really Tibetan, how many of these protesters are really ‘professional protesters’ that get paid to do so (by NED/welfare), or are career criminals looking for an opportunity to steal, burn and/or assault as many police as possible. NED isn’t necessarily supporting these ‘Tibetans’. F. William Engdahl has put forward a few very interesting ideas. However, unless you are within those riots yourself, check and confirm everyone’s nationality, you cannot rely solely on the media reports for such specific information. On reading the French version, one day I will make time for an excercise in reading French or determining what may be lost in translation. Dear Phillippe there is the impression that you may be anti US, now anti english… Is this how you ‘win friends and influence people’? (faire les amis et influencer d’autres personnes).

By: philippe

philippe — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:35:46 +0000

Conscientious Observer and all other writers here, would you please search an article named “Risky Geopolitical Game: Washington Plays ‘Tibet Roulette’ with China” in the site globalresearch.

I am considering how many Tibetains outside China… They don’t need to work? How can they follow the torch relay everywhere of the world? Who is behind them? All documents in this article answer my question: who is behind all these turmoil: the US.

I have another link in French. However, I think most of you can’t undertand french, so ..

By: philippe

philippe — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:59:53 +0000

I started to suspect how many Tibetans in the world and they don’t need to work? How can they follow the Torch relay all the time? Who is behind them? With what kind of political agenda?

I have just got a mail from one friend from London. It proved something I am suspecting. Here it is:
I went to see the torch relay on 4 th of Apr?one of western pro -tibet supporter came to chinese student to ask a bottle of water,They don’t want to give to him. and he said ,come on.Don’t be like that, They said why we have to give to you one? he said. for work! oh oh? funny.is it? who is those people? Do they really want to be the free tibet group or they just came for something else? for example,6 pounds per hour like working in supermarket? who knows?

By: From India

From India — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:11:13 +0000

Hey.. stop belittling china.. they are trying their best to do well.. and we are first hand witnesses of China’s determination to do well in all spheres of development. We were amazed to see that despite all the negative publicity, China is actually trying to build itself to be better that Europe or singapore. So what if you have to toe line to the Chinese government.. everybody does that in every country and anyone falling out of line in their own ‘free” countries get to go to G. Bay in Cuba..Give them a bit of credit..-Indian

By: New Jersey Tom

New Jersey Tom — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:31:25 +0000

Communist China is not ready for the Olympics and never will be. It was a grave mistake by the IOC to hold the summer games there. The gov’t is oppressive, definitely not inidcative of what the Olympics are suppossed to represent. I disagree wholeheartedly with the mistaken view that the Olympics are apolitical. They are by their nature inherently political, otherwise why would an athlete be representing a country which is a political entity. Anyway, I oppose the Communist Chinese regime period. We should give the U.N. seat back to Nationalist China as far as I am concerned. I actively boycott products made in/having content from mainland China whenever possible. The international movement against Communist China is in its infancy, but will only grow until there is siginifcant change, e.g. a free and independent Tibet.

By: Da6d

Da6d — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:10:31 +0000

I am in support of the olympics and am eager to see China do well. I think it is highly appropriate that as part of China’s “coming-out party” as a world power, they are now being forced to feel the wrath of world opinion that has plagued major world powers for the last several centuries.

Anyone in the West who has not been to China, and who has not really studied it has no place to speak about its internal policies. There’s alot to be done better over there, but the progress has been astounding. Pressure from the outside world is a great force for change, but the venom with which many individuals attack the CCP is unfair, to say the least. Running a country of over 1 bil people with a six-thousand year history of looking to strong central leadership is not an easy task. It’s doubly hard when admitting failure to the rest of the world on issues like Tibet or Darfur would be welcomed with condescension, not approval.

The Chinese people are increasingly well-educated, well-connected, and more politically-minded than most westerners are able to give them credit for. If things were really so intolerable, there’d have been more uprisings already, but that’s not how things are done in China, and it’s not likely to change because a few thousand protesters get their knickers in a twist.

Best wishes for the games.

By: WALLEY

WALLEY — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:08:16 +0000

WHO CARES!!!! not me Ill not be wacthing any of these shame games except to to see what atheletes to boycott TO shame THEM. they Should all be asshamed of themselfs the chi-coms wanna keep the politics out of it their the jacka%&’s who bring politics in to it in the 1st place they get what they deserve

WELCOME TO THE CHINA SHAME GAMES now I like the sound of that

By: Travis

Travis — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:25:19 +0000

Can you imagine how hard it would be for China to have a voting system? Florida couldn’t manage it a few years back, imagine a country with 1.something billion.
Actually, there is voting here, small towns do have the right to choose who they think should lead them, and they can pick from a list (in the same way the Russians did as well, social pressure from work etc)
And is China a communist country? I think not, I have never seen a more socialist one.
In which communist country do Hospitals, Schools charge, advertise for money giving patients and students?
If you want to look how communism works, look at England. Free health care, free schooling, and government welfare to anyone who wants it (Educated, Skilled people not apply)

By: An

An — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:11:09 +0000

Politic in China not objective. How much money you got? Hope Games goes well. When I go to Beijing I watch out for smog. If Chinese want to see website they can go another part China - Hong Kong la.