Comments on: You see what you want to see… http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2008/08/12/you-see-what-you-want-to-see/ Giant on the move Thu, 02 Aug 2012 12:43:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: ben2345 http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2008/08/12/you-see-what-you-want-to-see/comment-page-1/#comment-1769 ben2345 Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:37:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2008/08/12/you-see-what-you-want-to-see/#comment-1769 And there're tanks and "killers" where is not safe,so many people want to see the sport game.you brainless. And there’re tanks and “killers” where is not safe,so many people want to see the sport game.you brainless.

]]> By: Jason http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2008/08/12/you-see-what-you-want-to-see/comment-page-1/#comment-1593 Jason Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:37:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2008/08/12/you-see-what-you-want-to-see/#comment-1593 Neal is obviously someone who falls into what the media wants. Neal has probably never left the country or has been to China. I was not born in China but I have been there, there is poverty in some places the wealthy in others, some places blow the mind. But to say they are a brutal dictatorship is completely inaccurate. Sometimes the truth falls in the middle. Obviously China has some bad stuff that leads them to this view but they miss the good that the Govt. does. But to say the Govt. controls the people is completely inaccurate. People do as they want, but there are a few restrictions. That is like saying the SEC, IRS, and other regulatory boards are US's dictatorship. and the US is a bunch of controling hypocrates. Neal is obviously someone who falls into what the media wants. Neal has probably never left the country or has been to China. I was not born in China but I have been there, there is poverty in some places the wealthy in others, some places blow the mind.

But to say they are a brutal dictatorship is completely inaccurate. Sometimes the truth falls in the middle. Obviously China has some bad stuff that leads them to this view but they miss the good that the Govt. does.

But to say the Govt. controls the people is completely inaccurate. People do as they want, but there are a few restrictions. That is like saying the SEC, IRS, and other regulatory boards are US’s dictatorship. and the US is a bunch of controling hypocrates.

]]> By: Neal http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2008/08/12/you-see-what-you-want-to-see/comment-page-1/#comment-1556 Neal Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:14:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2008/08/12/you-see-what-you-want-to-see/#comment-1556 Of course the safety of the Games is most important but China has to be careful not to portray themselves (unless they are deliberately wanting to) as overbearing, heavy handed dictators. The authoritive, wooden like, goose stepping soldiers handling the flag at the opening ceremonies, the massive display of manpower all in unision to pull off the ceremonies, the control of the internet, the independent Chinese handling of doping, all of these things say to the western world that China is a non tolerant, brutal dictatorship. "One World, One Dream" even seems to be saying... "One China, One Communist World". Of course the safety of the Games is most important but China has to be careful not to portray themselves (unless they are deliberately wanting to) as overbearing, heavy handed dictators. The authoritive, wooden like, goose stepping soldiers handling the flag at the opening ceremonies, the massive display of manpower all in unision to pull off the ceremonies, the control of the internet, the independent Chinese handling of doping, all of these things say to the western world that China is a non tolerant, brutal dictatorship. “One World, One Dream” even seems to be saying… “One China, One Communist World”.

]]> By: John C Abell http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2008/08/12/you-see-what-you-want-to-see/comment-page-1/#comment-1517 John C Abell Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:31:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2008/08/12/you-see-what-you-want-to-see/#comment-1517 Trouble is disembodied facts can be connected in many ways, like a random pattern of dots. It's the obligation of a journalist to try to impose some order on these disorderly collections. In the absence of some reason to assume a benign premise a journalist must assume the benign. That doesn't mean the premise shouldn't be tested, but any old theory won't do, unless you are a wacky conspiracy buff for whom selective fact-choosing is positively required. Take your question, and these pictures, and here are three facts: the Chinese government is denying unfettered internet access to Olympics journalists. The journalists complained loudly. There is now a tank in front of the press center. Coincidence? You be the judge ... or, should you be? Trouble is disembodied facts can be connected in many ways, like a random pattern of dots. It’s the obligation of a journalist to try to impose some order on these disorderly collections. In the absence of some reason to assume a benign premise a journalist must assume the benign.

That doesn’t mean the premise shouldn’t be tested, but any old theory won’t do, unless you are a wacky conspiracy buff for whom selective fact-choosing is positively required.

Take your question, and these pictures, and here are three facts: the Chinese government is denying unfettered internet access to Olympics journalists. The journalists complained loudly. There is now a tank in front of the press center.

Coincidence? You be the judge … or, should you be?

]]> By: Hunter Green http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2008/08/12/you-see-what-you-want-to-see/comment-page-1/#comment-1515 Hunter Green Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:28:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2008/08/12/you-see-what-you-want-to-see/#comment-1515 I quite agree with Stephan. It is the same story everywhere. Every news channel / site reports their 'opinions'. It is individuals who report them and as individuals are not always balanced, it is not always that we get the so called 'true picture'. As a result, what is reported feeds into the preconceived notions and ideas of the rest of us. I see an attempt to make the Games safe. In today's insane world, not taking precautions is foolhardy in the extreme. I quite agree with Stephan. It is the same story everywhere. Every news channel / site reports their ‘opinions’. It is individuals who report them and as individuals are not always balanced, it is not always that we get the so called ‘true picture’. As a result, what is reported feeds into the preconceived notions and ideas of the rest of us. I see an attempt to make the Games safe. In today’s insane world, not taking precautions is foolhardy in the extreme.

]]> By: Stephan http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2008/08/12/you-see-what-you-want-to-see/comment-page-1/#comment-1507 Stephan Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:27:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2008/08/12/you-see-what-you-want-to-see/#comment-1507 and to 'even more confused': did you ever see a 'tank' before? i found this one painted quite friendly. do you remember the massacre 1972 at the olympic games in munich? and to ‘even more confused’: did you ever see a ‘tank’ before? i found this one painted quite friendly. do you remember the massacre 1972 at the olympic games in munich?

]]> By: Stephan http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2008/08/12/you-see-what-you-want-to-see/comment-page-1/#comment-1505 Stephan Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:19:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2008/08/12/you-see-what-you-want-to-see/#comment-1505 to 'confused'. sorry, but reporters don't report facts anymore. they report what they think their audience wants to hear or what their superiors wants them to report. there are no 'facts' in this world anymore, just opinions. the 'fact' that this picture was choosen amongst the millions of other facts tells you the truth: it's a naked provocation. selection of so-called facts can be (and today mostly is!)a lie...... to ‘confused’. sorry, but reporters don’t report facts anymore. they report what they think their audience wants to hear or what their superiors wants them to report. there are no ‘facts’ in this world anymore, just opinions. the ‘fact’ that this picture was choosen amongst the millions of other facts tells you the truth: it’s a naked provocation. selection of so-called facts can be (and today mostly is!)a lie……

]]> By: Tammy http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2008/08/12/you-see-what-you-want-to-see/comment-page-1/#comment-1502 Tammy Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:04:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2008/08/12/you-see-what-you-want-to-see/#comment-1502 The american got killed by a man that was unstable, I am sure china is very safe. The american got killed by a man that was unstable, I am sure china is very safe.

]]> By: Even more confused http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2008/08/12/you-see-what-you-want-to-see/comment-page-1/#comment-1501 Even more confused Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:36:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2008/08/12/you-see-what-you-want-to-see/#comment-1501 It is the first time in my life I have seen a tank guarding a sports event. Quite an alarming image, that's all... It is the first time in my life I have seen a tank guarding a sports event. Quite an alarming image, that’s all…

]]> By: Confused http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2008/08/12/you-see-what-you-want-to-see/comment-page-1/#comment-1497 Confused Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:00:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2008/08/12/you-see-what-you-want-to-see/#comment-1497 "Which is right? Are both? Are neither?" Why don't you ask the Chinese authorities and get an answer from them and report it? Isn't that what reporters do? “Which is right? Are both? Are neither?”

Why don’t you ask the Chinese authorities and get an answer from them and report it?

Isn’t that what reporters do?

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