Comments on: The war that changed China http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2009/02/17/the-war-that-changed-china/ Giant on the move Thu, 02 Aug 2012 12:43:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: jd http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2009/02/17/the-war-that-changed-china/comment-page-1/#comment-4297 jd Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:28:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/china/?p=1071#comment-4297 two chinas is akin to two irelands; the people of northern ireland consider themselves to be british and want no rule from dublin. political intrigue and chamberlainesque pieces of paper aside, the people of taiwan want no rule from beijing; have these people no say in their future? do those leaders who call for freedom in tibet and uyghurstan have no sympathy left for the taiwanese? two chinas is akin to two irelands; the people of northern ireland consider themselves to be british and want no rule from dublin. political intrigue and chamberlainesque pieces of paper aside, the people of taiwan want no rule from beijing; have these people no say in their future? do those leaders who call for freedom in tibet and uyghurstan have no sympathy left for the taiwanese?

]]> By: Eric Lim http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2009/02/17/the-war-that-changed-china/comment-page-1/#comment-4290 Eric Lim Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:35:42 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/china/?p=1071#comment-4290 Both sides of the Taiwan Straits and the international community recognise that there is only one China, and the “Taiwan Region” is within the internationally recognised borders of China. The China Map in the CIA Factbook records this fact ( https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ch.html ). Recently, Taiwanese President Ma Ying-jeou reiterated the one china reality as provided in Taiwanese (ROC) Constitution (http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2008/10/08/2003425320 ): “President Ma Ying-jeou (???) has said mainland China is the territory of the Republic of China (ROC) in an interview with a Japanese magazine, the first time Ma has made the official claim since he took office in May. Ma said under the ROC Constitution, the ROC “definitely is an independent sovereign state, and mainland [sic] China is also part of the territory of the ROC.” “ President Ma is right. ROC an independent sovereign state as ROC is a name of China. The other name of China is PRC (People’s Republic of China). China is still in the state of civil war (although military hostilities have ceased as the Beijing fraction has currently opted for peaceful reunification modelled on the Hong Kong precedent of one-country-two-systems). If there is a serious risk of the “Taiwan Region” becoming politically independent of China, the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) would be constitutionally bound to defend the territorial integrity and sovereignty of China. The issue before the international community as presented by both fractions is to recognise which civil war fraction as the sole legitimate government of the all China: the Taipei fraction which governs the “Taiwan Region” or Beijing fraction which governs the “Mainland Region”. Do note that the “Taiwan region” did not split from China in 1949 and that the Chinese civil war is still not concluded. Both sides of the Taiwan Straits and the international community recognise that there is only one China, and the “Taiwan Region” is within the internationally recognised borders of China. The China Map in the CIA Factbook records this fact ( https://www.cia.gov/library/publications  /the-world-factbook/geos/ch.html ).

Recently, Taiwanese President Ma Ying-jeou reiterated the one china reality as provided in Taiwanese (ROC) Constitution (http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/ archives/2008/10/08/2003425320 ):

“President Ma Ying-jeou (???) has said mainland China is the territory of the Republic of China (ROC) in an interview with a Japanese magazine, the first time Ma has made the official claim since he took office in May.

Ma said under the ROC Constitution, the ROC “definitely is an independent sovereign state, and mainland [sic] China is also part of the territory of the ROC.” “

President Ma is right. ROC an independent sovereign state as ROC is a name of China. The other name of China is PRC (People’s Republic of China). China is still in the state of civil war (although military hostilities have ceased as the Beijing fraction has currently opted for peaceful reunification modelled on the Hong Kong precedent of one-country-two-systems). If there is a serious risk of the “Taiwan Region” becoming politically independent of China, the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) would be constitutionally bound to defend the territorial integrity and sovereignty of China.

The issue before the international community as presented by both fractions is to recognise which civil war fraction as the sole legitimate government of the all China: the Taipei fraction which governs the “Taiwan Region” or Beijing fraction which governs the “Mainland Region”.

Do note that the “Taiwan region” did not split from China in 1949 and that the Chinese civil war is still not concluded.

]]> By: Eric Havaby http://blogs.reuters.com/china/2009/02/17/the-war-that-changed-china/comment-page-1/#comment-4288 Eric Havaby Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:37:14 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/china/?p=1071#comment-4288 "China abandoned its longstanding policy of “liberating” Taiwan and offered “peaceful reunification” " Garbage! China has never abandoned its policy that Taiwan is a renegade province which will be brought back - by force if necessary. “China abandoned its longstanding policy of “liberating” Taiwan and offered “peaceful reunification” ”

Garbage! China has never abandoned its policy that Taiwan is a renegade province which will be brought back – by force if necessary.

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