Comments on: Don Graham: For-profit school plan hurts poor kids http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2010/11/04/don-graham-proposes-for-profit-school-solution/ Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:34:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Professor-Blake http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2010/11/04/don-graham-proposes-for-profit-school-solution/#comment-865 Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:28:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=422#comment-865 Interesting comments by CHEMTCHR – I wonder if this person (assuming chemistry teacher) has ever taught economically disadvantaged students?

We need to remember that education is not a constitutional right – it is a choice. Individuals from anywhere in the world have the right to choose attending a US University – if they can afford it.

An educated society is an economic advantage in our global world – and it is good to have advanced knowledge in all citizens.

I was in 1873-The Society to Encourage Studies at Home is founded in Boston by Anna Eliot Ticknor, daughter of Harvard professor George Ticknor. It’s purpose is to allow women the opportunity for study and enlightenment and becomes the first correspondence school in the United States.

In find this interesting:
1917 – The Smith-Hughes Act passes, providing federal funding for agricultural and vocational education. It is repealed in 1997 during Clinton’s Administration!

If the internet were in place – do you think these would have passed or would online/at home education be the norm? (Even though for K-12 it sets precedence)
1919 – All states have laws providing funds for transporting children to school.
1939 – Frank W. Cyr, a professor at Columbia University’s Teachers College, organizes a national conference on student transportation. It results in the adoption of standards for the nation’s school buses, including the shade of yellow.

Our Education system is an open system allowing anyone to better themselves – there is no guarantee of jobs from any school – not the state schools – nor the Ivy league schools.

And does anyone thing for one moment that schools like John’s Hopkins, Carnegie Mellon, MIT, Northwestern, Cal-Tech and others DON’t receive large Federal Funding in the form of Grants?

It is time to start separating our Universities between Research Orientation – and Teaching Schools. Just as Community Colleges were first founded as SKILLS colleges – they should return to this mission.

Don’t listen to the Politics – Talk to the Students – ask the Kaplan Students who are working full time and taking a program to better themselves, or ask the unemployed why they are unemployed (Due to not having a degree) – So why would a degree from McNeese State, Eastern Washington, Grambling, or Carolina College, be any different than an earned degree from Kaplan?

Why would Kaplan be required to guarantee a job – when state schools are not required to do the same?

Too many people who don’t have a clue about student initiative and learning are stereotyping online schools. This prejudice will only hurt opportunity for American citizens to better themselves.

And if the public doesn’t want future students to have access to Government backed funding – then take away federal government funding to all schools.

And one more consideration – If online education is to be argued – then why are a majority of US state universities starting online offerings?

Slap the schools for false advertising – but don’t take away the only opportunity for millions to improve themselves. Isn’t the “pursuit of happiness” written somewhere important (yes I know – but do critics of online education?)

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By: thisisnuts http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2010/11/04/don-graham-proposes-for-profit-school-solution/#comment-466 Tue, 09 Nov 2010 02:23:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=422#comment-466 Public schools hurt poor kids!!

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By: Janeallen http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2010/11/04/don-graham-proposes-for-profit-school-solution/#comment-464 Tue, 09 Nov 2010 00:49:03 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=422#comment-464 Mr. Graham distorted the biggest threat to our educational system.
The educational system, where, in its ideal state, should provide future leaders, innovators, our brightests hopes a worry-free environment to develop their talents and potentials, is threatened by institutions like the ones Mr. Graham runs. Instead of choosing the schools that will mold students into the best citizens of our country, students have to settle with Mr. Graham’s institutions that satisfy the minimum requirement of being able to issue a diploma, without providing the higher level of nurturing, developing, and most importantly, opening up of students’ minds to greater and better things than just minimum standards.

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By: jo5319 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2010/11/04/don-graham-proposes-for-profit-school-solution/#comment-463 Tue, 09 Nov 2010 00:23:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=422#comment-463 Despite being a supporter of separation of state and religion in general, I believe that American education system has languished behind many developing countries because of the severing of truly altruistic and self-sacrificing religious teaching staff from government funded or assisted educational institutions.

Most governments in the world are realistic about the contribution of religious nuns and volunteers towards the education of extremely impoverished children. Examples include the opening of education to the aboriginal people in Australia, to cooperation between British colonial government in their colonies( irony yes: at a time when catholics were still discriminated against as more or less outcasts or rebels in Great Britain for their historical opposition to Henry VIII, catholic nuns were nonetheless always welcomed, and not infrequently given high respect in their colonies, such as Mother Theresa in India for charitable work. Quite practical and successful. ) The United States developed one of the most expensive and less effective system at the early educational stages because over-separation of religion and state.

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By: BHOlied http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2010/11/04/don-graham-proposes-for-profit-school-solution/#comment-459 Mon, 08 Nov 2010 19:01:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=422#comment-459 Public education is doomed bc:

1) Unions run the show. Unions are anti-competitive and protectionist by nature and do no allow the removal of poor performing members.

2) The Public Education system rewards teachers who have served longer rather than those who teach well. There is the exact opposite of performance based payment that would turn the teaching world upside down and improve results immediately.

Until these things change our education system will continue to falter.

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By: chemtchr http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2010/11/04/don-graham-proposes-for-profit-school-solution/#comment-422 Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:54:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=422#comment-422 So Graham uses his entire media empire to attack the funding base for public education, then pleads there’s no option left for our young people, but to feed our tax dollars into his worthless for-profit “education” cash cow?

This is a slimy, dishonorable business. Look at the sickening details of Kaplan’s fleecing of veterans, in this story the Reuters reporter didn’t mention. http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/con tent/10_46/b4203026910225.htm

What a mealy-mouthed poverty pimp Graham is! If he cares about the poor, why hasn’t he thrown his whole schedule behind congressional appearances and interviews demanding funding for the community colleges, then? He cares nothing for the “poor kids” he rips off.

Instead, his editors and columnists rail against the cost of admitting “unqualified” urban students into public community colleges, and demand restricted admissions. All this time, his Kaplan sales force is cold-caalling these same victims, lying to get their signatures on government-guaranteed loans for the vastly more expensive, useless crap he peddles to them.

Graham plays the same game when he goes ofter tax dollars meant for younger poor children, too. His newspapers, TV stations, cable network, and magazines demand that urban schools be shut down out from under their communities, so Kaplan can exploit the displaced children, who have no place else left to go. In his newspapers, he call this “choice”. The funding for Kaplan’s secret “virtual in-district charter schools” is coming out of our packets.

http://www.kaplanonlineschools.com/distr ict/solutions

People don’t even know about his aelf-serving rip-off
of DC schoolchildren, because his press won’t report it, and apparently Reuters also thinks he needs a bigger platform to spread his deceit.

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