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	<title>Comments on: The Middle East and the Groupon effect</title>
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		<title>By: jelpernw</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2011/02/18/the-middle-east-and-the-groupon-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-1033</link>
		<dc:creator>jelpernw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 11:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is actually what Groupon was designed for, before it was called Groupon.  See ThePoint.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is actually what Groupon was designed for, before it was called Groupon.  See ThePoint.com.</p>
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		<title>By: breezinthru</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2011/02/18/the-middle-east-and-the-groupon-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-974</link>
		<dc:creator>breezinthru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 07:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@doctorjay317

Those who are not interested will of course not have a say in these matters, but what about two very large groups approximately equal in numbers and approximately the same level of zeal?

They could each in turn shut down large portions of our business activity for several weeks to months while actually causing no permanent change.  

Is that kind of harmful chaos justified, even if you disagree with the protestors?  At some point, the government must restore order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@doctorjay317</p>
<p>Those who are not interested will of course not have a say in these matters, but what about two very large groups approximately equal in numbers and approximately the same level of zeal?</p>
<p>They could each in turn shut down large portions of our business activity for several weeks to months while actually causing no permanent change.  </p>
<p>Is that kind of harmful chaos justified, even if you disagree with the protestors?  At some point, the government must restore order.</p>
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		<title>By: doctorjay317</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2011/02/18/the-middle-east-and-the-groupon-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-972</link>
		<dc:creator>doctorjay317</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 02:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If it is only 50%, would they be morally justified in initiating a internet-coordinated assembly? Even if it was greater than 50%, what critical mass would it take to be effective in a country that ostensibly operates a government of the people, by the people and for the people?&quot;

Well, &quot;breezinthru&quot;, if the rest are not interested, then those who are will decide.

If you don&#039;t know what you want, then I guess anything will do.

Or, if you don&#039;t know where you are going, any road will do.

Get it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If it is only 50%, would they be morally justified in initiating a internet-coordinated assembly? Even if it was greater than 50%, what critical mass would it take to be effective in a country that ostensibly operates a government of the people, by the people and for the people?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, &#8220;breezinthru&#8221;, if the rest are not interested, then those who are will decide.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t know what you want, then I guess anything will do.</p>
<p>Or, if you don&#8217;t know where you are going, any road will do.</p>
<p>Get it?</p>
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		<title>By: breezinthru</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2011/02/18/the-middle-east-and-the-groupon-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-969</link>
		<dc:creator>breezinthru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article... it spawns a lot of questions in my mind.

I wonder just how popular the recent mass movements in Egypt and Tunisia actually were; what percentage of the population was not just unsatisfied in a grumbling sort of way, rather so unsatisfied with the current state of affairs that they were willing to roll the dice by taking personal action?

What was the critical mass required for people to achieve change?  Was the percentage the same in both countries?  How close was the critical mass to 50%?  

Consider then a country like Iran with large percentages of the population in direct opposition to each other.  If the ability to assemble and loosely coordinate a large group of people who are deeply committed to their position provides moral justification for doing so, how then can one side or the other ever govern effectively? 

Consider then a country like America with presidential elections decided by a very small percentage of voters.  What would it take for America to implement change?  

For example, I wonder what percentage of American citizens believe deeply that the Wall Street profiteers and corporations who benefitted the most from the recent bubble should suffer severe financial consequences and/or put in jail, rather than continue to be treated like economic demigods?

If it is only 50%, would they be morally justified in initiating a internet-coordinated assembly?  Even if it was greater than 50%, what critical mass would it take to be effective in a country that ostensibly operates a government of the people, by the people and for the people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article&#8230; it spawns a lot of questions in my mind.</p>
<p>I wonder just how popular the recent mass movements in Egypt and Tunisia actually were; what percentage of the population was not just unsatisfied in a grumbling sort of way, rather so unsatisfied with the current state of affairs that they were willing to roll the dice by taking personal action?</p>
<p>What was the critical mass required for people to achieve change?  Was the percentage the same in both countries?  How close was the critical mass to 50%?  </p>
<p>Consider then a country like Iran with large percentages of the population in direct opposition to each other.  If the ability to assemble and loosely coordinate a large group of people who are deeply committed to their position provides moral justification for doing so, how then can one side or the other ever govern effectively? </p>
<p>Consider then a country like America with presidential elections decided by a very small percentage of voters.  What would it take for America to implement change?  </p>
<p>For example, I wonder what percentage of American citizens believe deeply that the Wall Street profiteers and corporations who benefitted the most from the recent bubble should suffer severe financial consequences and/or put in jail, rather than continue to be treated like economic demigods?</p>
<p>If it is only 50%, would they be morally justified in initiating a internet-coordinated assembly?  Even if it was greater than 50%, what critical mass would it take to be effective in a country that ostensibly operates a government of the people, by the people and for the people?</p>
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		<title>By: geordie247</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2011/02/18/the-middle-east-and-the-groupon-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-968</link>
		<dc:creator>geordie247</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;we&quot; I was referring to were the people of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;we&#8221; I was referring to were the people of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: truthordare</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2011/02/18/the-middle-east-and-the-groupon-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-965</link>
		<dc:creator>truthordare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 21:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We live in exciting times, full of hope for the future if we can get this right.&quot;
Surely this is western arrogance at it&#039;s worst - these &quot;exciting times&quot; are a hope for the middle east and not the west - whether that is western style &quot;democracy&quot; or a re-emergence of a truly honest Islamic faith it will be decided by the middle east and not the west.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We live in exciting times, full of hope for the future if we can get this right.&#8221;<br />
Surely this is western arrogance at it&#8217;s worst &#8211; these &#8220;exciting times&#8221; are a hope for the middle east and not the west &#8211; whether that is western style &#8220;democracy&#8221; or a re-emergence of a truly honest Islamic faith it will be decided by the middle east and not the west.</p>
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		<title>By: scarr34</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2011/02/18/the-middle-east-and-the-groupon-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-963</link>
		<dc:creator>scarr34</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 06:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not just turn the electricity off?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not just turn the electricity off?</p>
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		<title>By: geordie247</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2011/02/18/the-middle-east-and-the-groupon-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-958</link>
		<dc:creator>geordie247</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the Russian revolution to the Orange revolution people have rarely ended up with better government after a popular revolution. Once again Ms. Freeland comes up with savvy analysis. We live in exciting times, full of hope for the future if we can get this right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Russian revolution to the Orange revolution people have rarely ended up with better government after a popular revolution. Once again Ms. Freeland comes up with savvy analysis. We live in exciting times, full of hope for the future if we can get this right.</p>
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		<title>By: WBGriffin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2011/02/18/the-middle-east-and-the-groupon-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-957</link>
		<dc:creator>WBGriffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2011 10:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AND sometimes people just can&#039;t bear any more for an oppressive regime ... which becomes very dangerous in and of itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AND sometimes people just can&#8217;t bear any more for an oppressive regime &#8230; which becomes very dangerous in and of itself.</p>
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		<title>By: anthonytung</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2011/02/18/the-middle-east-and-the-groupon-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-956</link>
		<dc:creator>anthonytung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 22:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Internet mob rule is extremely dangerous!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Internet mob rule is extremely dangerous!!</p>
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