Comments on: What happens when citizens lose faith in government? http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2011/08/05/what-happens-when-citizens-lose-faith-in-government/ Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:34:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: GusM http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2011/08/05/what-happens-when-citizens-lose-faith-in-government/#comment-1780 Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:05:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=1244#comment-1780 What happens when citizens lose faith in government is that minor acts of oppression or suppression by government become a reason for major public reactions: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/1 0/us-britain-riot-idUSTRE7760G820110810

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By: ericanthonyg http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2011/08/05/what-happens-when-citizens-lose-faith-in-government/#comment-1778 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 18:05:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=1244#comment-1778 Bill Maher appearance was outstanding, I am so glad to have found this blog (and those of your colleagues’) because of it.
451’s comments on America having seen the atrocities of the rich and powerful are only amplified by the fact that much of the younger generations are completely bewildered as to how these people are allowed to have this kind of socio-economic/political leverage over the unfortunate “masses”.
The best comment from that episode (Real Time, #220 on HBO)came from Cuban, believe it or not, when he pointed out that the Rep’s have really backed themselves into a corner politically, and I think Americans are finally opening their eyes to the abuse and neglect of the right. Even down here in Red-hot Texas the conversation concerning politics and social agenda is (finally!) beginning to bend a slightly new direction.
This is America, and there is a standard that our leaders are expected to meet…

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By: The1eyedman http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2011/08/05/what-happens-when-citizens-lose-faith-in-government/#comment-1777 Mon, 08 Aug 2011 16:18:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=1244#comment-1777 Unfortunately, the chance of anyone pulling off a ‘Ten Days that Shook the World,’ are gone.
The probability of reform approaches zero, as everyone is on a pension, either state or corporate funded and cannot afford to be without it.
Hence, all can bewail lot and soldier on.

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By: m2u http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2011/08/05/what-happens-when-citizens-lose-faith-in-government/#comment-1776 Mon, 08 Aug 2011 00:57:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=1244#comment-1776 According to Crane Brinton, in “The Anatomy or Revoluion” what follows a loss of faith in government is financial breakdown, then organization of the discontent to remedy the breakdown. I believe the individuals who lead the tea party are representative of the problem and are not the solution. Perhaps the disenchanted will seek shelter in any available port during a storm.

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By: TheCageNovel http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2011/08/05/what-happens-when-citizens-lose-faith-in-government/#comment-1775 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 18:33:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=1244#comment-1775 With all the well-known defects of representative democracy, it seems to me that the real sea-change is the fracturing of the American people. There have always been regional and class antipathies, but to say that we are growing to hate and mistrust each other on a grand scale isn’t going too far.

I think of Sarejevo, once a cosmopolitan city where diverse ethnic groups coexisted and intermarried to an extent that might be hard to fathom in the US. Then it became a battleground of civil war stoked by political gangsters.

Sarejevo illustrated that any group of people can be taught to hate one another, if the right people are consistently fed the right narratives.

For many years, opportunists and promoters in this country have forged narratives to foment hate, rage, and mistrust. Why? Because it makes money. It gets votes. Radio, cable, and other forms of media provide tools to rake in money and votes on a large scale. And we are certainly not alone.

If it continues, it may be that, as long as they have the numbers, those who hate the hardest will come out on top. But they may very well wind up on top of a pile of scrap. It wouldn’t be the first time.

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By: workwidow http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2011/08/05/what-happens-when-citizens-lose-faith-in-government/#comment-1774 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 17:35:42 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=1244#comment-1774 My husband and I now have an 11,000-mile-marriage due to this very phenomenon. After Citigroup pulled funding for the architectural project he was working on in 2008, we blew through all our savings in order to live until job offers began to come from other countries. Our family moved to Saipan (commonwealth of the U.S. in the Pacific), then to Shanghai, China, which proved just too challenging and depressing for my son and me. We moved back to the US without my husband and are maintaining two households. My husband now lives and works in Mauritius, since there is actual development happening there.
Not all workers are able or willing to exit their home countries, but for an increasing number it is what feels like the only remaining option. I only hope the US is able to pull back from the brink before total collapse.

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By: loek http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2011/08/05/what-happens-when-citizens-lose-faith-in-government/#comment-1773 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 17:12:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=1244#comment-1773 the selection-proces for new and existing USA-lawmakers is seriously flawed.
their interests in governing the nation as a balanced unit, especially internally, is very limited to the fullfilling of the whishes of the special-interest groups they represent, and that is not the general population, who has no money to pay the lobbyists.
the lawmakers now are too easily influenced by powerfull relations and money, and they like their big salaries and enormous perks and their large power is fullfilling their blown-up ego’s.
but their results are very negative for the country and for MOST of the population.
the public has indeed decided that taking silenty the exit-side is better for their own health and with less frustrations about the lack of compromise and therefor a lack of progress towards a balanced, and therefor a peacefull and trustworthy society.
and that is basicly all what most people want from the government.
it is no wonder that a vocal minority, can then block the whole political proces of give and take.and they really do not care if the external relations of the USA are getting burned, after all they where willing to burn down their OWN country first.
I do not believe that the outcome of the selection-proces will improve soon, because their is no independent central institute that weighs the open-mindness, the capabilities,the independence and the honesty etc. of the new and existing USA-lawmakers and can decide that a person is not fit for the job.
do you hire somebody that will ruin your business?
poor America, you will get what you produce and that is not something you can be proud off.
Loek, a sad American.

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By: jbrndee http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2011/08/05/what-happens-when-citizens-lose-faith-in-government/#comment-1771 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:46:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=1244#comment-1771 This is an interesting article that shows us that our history is only a cycle that comes and goes. There’s nothing new under the sun. Never-the-less, an end is coming for the sake of those who are innocent and have had to suffer because of selfish human desires. There will be a time when everyone will be challenged by unfortunate circumstances that will reveal an individuals true character. And the only thing man will have to barter with is a limited supply of food and water.

Yes this article is very eye opening. It confirms that the leaders of our world are being backed into a corner without an answer to fight their way out.

There’s one thing for sure, something will happen and the people who pay their bills and help others will suffer first.

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By: venusianlover http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2011/08/05/what-happens-when-citizens-lose-faith-in-government/#comment-1770 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:16:42 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=1244#comment-1770 What ever happened to government protesting without violence? If we cannot feel the effects of protesting on the internet, people should protest in person. What about marching on Washington? People need to be seen and heard one way or another. Ongoing peaceful demostrations will prove if our government will listen or fail to listen. I say those men and especially women concerned with where are government is headed should march! I would do it!

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By: ARJTurgot2 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2011/08/05/what-happens-when-citizens-lose-faith-in-government/#comment-1768 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 13:35:56 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=1244#comment-1768 I would remind you once again of one of the lessons from Shannon’s work in Information Theory:

“Information Breaks Down Hierarchies”

What I find more interesting is that it takes about 20 years for new concepts to work its way through to general acceptance. Consider, Vint Cerf works out TCP/IP in roughly 1973. Berners-Lee rolls out his web server in roughly 1993. We are now approaching 20 years of the web, and we are increasingly seeing the internalization of the concept.

Chrystia, you just have to recognize it’s good. You may know and somewhat admire guys like Strauss-Kahn, Jamie Dimon, et al, but the evidence is coming out that they are simply scum in suits. The world needs to know that, and is better for it.

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