Comments on: Equal rights and the U.S. economy http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2012/05/18/equal-rights-and-the-u-s-economy/ Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:34:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: basilbeshkov http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2012/05/18/equal-rights-and-the-u-s-economy/#comment-3448 Thu, 24 May 2012 21:56:37 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=1633#comment-3448 ‘Inclusive economies are successful economies’, Why Nations Fail, Acemoglu and Robinson.

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By: seanblanton http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2012/05/18/equal-rights-and-the-u-s-economy/#comment-3403 Tue, 22 May 2012 15:06:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=1633#comment-3403 An important article, Chrystia. It’s been known for 100 years that economic freedom leads to higher personal income and that political and economic freedoms are tightly linked. Most of us are pretty ignorant about the thinking and events that got us to our current economic system. I just read Sylvia Nasar’s “Grand Pursuit” – a fun read about history, biography and economics.

Competition leads to increased productivity. Higher productivity should lead to higher real income. In the slightly longer term, white males’ incomes should eventually increase faster than they would have without competition from women and black males.

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By: ahms http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2012/05/18/equal-rights-and-the-u-s-economy/#comment-3400 Tue, 22 May 2012 14:06:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=1633#comment-3400 When we allow people to be individuals, not just another part of some stereotyped group (be it women, men, race, whatever), we’re essentially letting them grow. You take off the shackles of having to act/be a certain way, outgrow your biology, limitations, cultural expectations, etc., then you start to grow.

And that’s why a lot of people/countries try to keep select groups of gender/whatever down- they want to sustain their egos over those they can control. It happens to men as well, when they have to be fearful of being scorned for doing something more typically ‘feminine’ – they’ve lost control over natural parts of themselves, that have been taken over by adhering to stereotype.

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By: Lissandreau http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2012/05/18/equal-rights-and-the-u-s-economy/#comment-3399 Tue, 22 May 2012 12:05:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=1633#comment-3399 Very interesting piece – what the article however ignores is the role of government action in producing this major change. Without policies favoring women and racial minorities, the figures for Income gains they have experienced would be much lower. This may explain why the feeling that government is too big and powerful today is most often articulated by white men.

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By: Parker1227 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2012/05/18/equal-rights-and-the-u-s-economy/#comment-3379 Mon, 21 May 2012 04:11:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=1633#comment-3379 This kind of politicized and uninformed desire for “fairness” can wreak destruction in the work place.

Quotas have caused immeasurable harm in government agencies.

Short of a certain sex, race or ethnicity? Don’t fire anyone who falls in these groups (no matter have egregious their behavior), and be ready to pass over the most qualified applicants if your “rainbow” statistics are too out of sync.

Equality of opportunity is a great goal. Statistically enforced parity is leftist totalitarianism.

There are MANY jobs which will never attract a perfectly balanced pool of applicants and never will.

Most supposed imbalances in our work force these days are about natural differences, affinities, choices and proclivities – not unfairness or discrimination.

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By: crownsjtu http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2012/05/18/equal-rights-and-the-u-s-economy/#comment-3373 Mon, 21 May 2012 02:24:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=1633#comment-3373 I want to know how to understand the new form of discrimination.

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By: leslie20 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2012/05/18/equal-rights-and-the-u-s-economy/#comment-3348 Sat, 19 May 2012 18:34:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=1633#comment-3348 Their preliminary results are consistent with what I’ve observed in my working life (since the late ’70s). It will be very interesting to see the final result after they’ve completed their analysis of the data.

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By: beofaction http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2012/05/18/equal-rights-and-the-u-s-economy/#comment-3347 Sat, 19 May 2012 18:15:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=1633#comment-3347 You are correct Ms. Freeland, but the world you are describing, one where the best person is hired, is not the economic world we live in. Those are great intentions, but when the government is tasked with creating a “fair” economic world, anything but that is accomplished. Report the truth, Ms. Freeland. In reality we have quotas in almost every facet of our economy-especially where the government is most involved: Mortgage loans, student loans, the banking industry in general, our education system, the military, and every other civil government entity. Of course, “technically” they are not quotas because most often hard numbers are not required. One just has to carry the burden of proof of compliance with any number of “parameters” the government “suggests”, or incur substantial fines and legal action. To paraphrase and improvise the famous Clinton statement, it depends upon what you mean by “quotas”.

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By: Still_Here http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2012/05/18/equal-rights-and-the-u-s-economy/#comment-3346 Sat, 19 May 2012 15:01:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=1633#comment-3346 You have made a great case for fairness, but, much, most of this modern world was handed off to these other gender, races after our world of high tech was created by white men. True this new generation is thriving in this new modern world of technology, however, what percentages of the population, other than white men have displayed true innovation of invention that creates out of a thought process, not just an innovative twist on known technology?
I have worked for years in a corporate high tech environment that was populated by true genius of many races, but mostly men and a couple of women. This environment was charged by hiring the truly gifted and always on the look out for talent regardless of race or gender. I personally think that a high tech environment will decline over time now that the playing field has been massaged to allow those less mentally gifted to push out white men. Be careful what you wish for; you might just get it.

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By: phantom51 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/2012/05/18/equal-rights-and-the-u-s-economy/#comment-3345 Sat, 19 May 2012 14:23:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/chrystia-freeland/?p=1633#comment-3345 Sounds like more of the same old university poppycock that continually gets so many companies in trouble. While I applaud the greater acceptance of minorities into the upper levels of mgmt, I don’t know how anyone can quantify productivity gains without also taking into account the losses caused by mgmt stupidly promoting under qualified minorities and destroying moral within the workforce. I had a front row seat while the Big Three auto companies generated thousands of little cancers throughout their organizations because a masters degree from the U of Calcutta was more important than competency, hard work and success on the job. Ultimately, Chrysler and GM went under and Ford came mighty close. In the end they had so many boobs in positions of authority that no one was left to right the ship, the few that could took buyouts whenever they were offered. Toyota and Honda never put diversity over competence, the results are clear for all to see. So go measure that before you claim all these productivity gains.

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