Comments on: The mirage of U.S. healthcare http://blogs.reuters.com/commentaries/2009/08/26/the-mirage-of-us-healthcare/ Now raising intellectual capital Sun, 08 Nov 2015 08:31:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Kirk http://blogs.reuters.com/commentaries/2009/08/26/the-mirage-of-us-healthcare/comment-page-5/#comment-6008 Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:18:25 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/commentaries/?p=3124#comment-6008 What a great example of the fringe. The irony of the previous commenter’s abortion statement is the fact that health insurance reform will actually reduce the number of abortions. Why is this? Since all Americans will be insured, all Americans will have access to affordable contraception. Logic dictates that this will reduce unwanted pregnancies and thereby reduce the number of abortions.

The previous commenter’s statistics are also wrong. Abortion has been on a steep decline since 1991 and there are far fewer abortions performed than the commenter stated.

The last comment is such a perfect example of the misinformation and scare tactics used against health insurance reform. We even had Hitler and Stalin thrown in. Most people will ignore the comment, but some won’t. This is the tactic of health insurance reform opponents. Just throw out as much false information as possible and hope one of the falsehoods will stick, no matter how ridiculous the statement is.

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By: Gerry http://blogs.reuters.com/commentaries/2009/08/26/the-mirage-of-us-healthcare/comment-page-5/#comment-5800 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:27:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/commentaries/?p=3124#comment-5800 These are simply facts. The leading cause of death in America is abortion (1.2Million/year). Obamacare is a Trojan Horse that is designed to bail out the abortion industry. While everyone is arguing about details and the impact to their own pocket book, the American government has created tax funded genocide larger than Hitler and Stalin ever dreamt of.

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By: Kirk http://blogs.reuters.com/commentaries/2009/08/26/the-mirage-of-us-healthcare/comment-page-5/#comment-5180 Mon, 28 Sep 2009 05:10:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/commentaries/?p=3124#comment-5180 Luckily, we have an excellent solution to the health insurance crisis in the United States and that is the public option that is being proposed by the White House, the House of Representatives and now the Senate.

The public option will compete with private insurance and will operate like Medicare with the exception that it will be an optional program. You don’t have to pay for the public option if you choose private insurance. This is because the public option is paid for by its participants. If you choose the public option then you will pay a premium for the coverage, just as you would with private insurance.

While the health insurance reform being proposed has many fixes for the private insurance industry – like not allowing claim denials because of a “preexisting” condition – it is the public option that really brings the reform we need. Insurance companies will no longer be able to jack up rates willy nilly since they will have to compete with the public option. In addition, insurance companies will have to provide good service to their customers since their customers will switch to the public option if they don’t.

The public option is an essential part of health insurance reform.

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By: Drew http://blogs.reuters.com/commentaries/2009/08/26/the-mirage-of-us-healthcare/comment-page-5/#comment-4786 Sun, 20 Sep 2009 15:06:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/commentaries/?p=3124#comment-4786 To quote Kirk, “I am well aware…”

You aren’t aware of anything. Get your head out of the clouds.

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By: Drew http://blogs.reuters.com/commentaries/2009/08/26/the-mirage-of-us-healthcare/comment-page-5/#comment-4785 Sun, 20 Sep 2009 15:02:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/commentaries/?p=3124#comment-4785 Wrong again, Kirk.
Big Government is not the answer, friend.

First:

The uninsured (according to CNN) are mostly young, healthy Hispanics. Many have the opportunity to work, save and keep their money for a rainy day.

Second:

This is why many of the world, unlike myself, do not sympathize with you. You work and lived in the most dynamic economy in the world. But instead of taking advantage of this mostly tax free windfall, saving for a rainy day and living within your means. You and other Americans decided to piss away that money on larger houses, the nicest cars, not very fuel efficient cars, flat panel televisions. So don’t come crying to me.

Third:

Big Government redistributes wealth. So do the insurance companies. Both redistribute. Both are technically the same. Premiums, payouts. Taxes, benefits. Insurance companies redistribute payouts from premiums (less the profit motive).

Governments too redistribute income (benefits) from taxes. There is no profit motive in government and no need to be efficient. There is graft. The result is government going back to you for more money. Again and again. Did I mention how high your taxes are going to be? You will pay no matter what. See.

Third:

You mention politicians being bribed. Wait till your Big Government dream (nightmare) comes to fruition. You will be bribed with your own money. They will take tax after tax and give you back a few crumbs.

Governments will be addicted to the cash, your friends Pelosi and Franks will be salivating over that added revenue and then decide. ‘Hey, lets get rid of all the private insurance. Lets take over everything’. This could happen and probably will. Don’t be so naive. More so don’t trust sleazy Democrats.

Fourth:

Why is that Liberals perceive Conservatives as uncaring? I do care. I care about you. And I care about me. Don’t give up your right. Don’t have a larger entity manage (take and redistribute) your money from you. Conservatives care.

Yeah you have a problem with your health care, Kirk. But Big Government is not the answer. Like most Americans, impatient, you are looking for that quick band-aid fix. One vote and your problems will be solved.

So naive, Kirk….(sigh)

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By: Kirk http://blogs.reuters.com/commentaries/2009/08/26/the-mirage-of-us-healthcare/comment-page-5/#comment-4752 Sat, 19 Sep 2009 15:57:54 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/commentaries/?p=3124#comment-4752 Yes, I’m well aware that health insurance reform opponents could care less that 45,000 people die each year from the lack of insurance. Health insurance reform opponents do not have America’s interest at heart. They only care about the profitability of private insurance companies. They also will continue spreading misinformation to try and kill health insurance reform.

Health insurance reform does not create state run healthcare. It simply creates safeguards for those with private insurance and provides an option to join a public insurance plan – the public option. The public option is paid for through the premiums of its participants just like private insurance.

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By: Drew http://blogs.reuters.com/commentaries/2009/08/26/the-mirage-of-us-healthcare/comment-page-5/#comment-4741 Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:14:01 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/commentaries/?p=3124#comment-4741 You still sound like a generated script from the Obama camp. And now you are changing your position to the Republican insurance reform idea. Hmmm. That’s interesting. I miss something here?

First, don’t tug on my heart strings (lol). 45,000 die every year in the U.S. in motor vehicle accidents. I believe twice that die from misdiagnosis in the U.S.

In Canada, (I won’t look this up), we have that comparable amount dying every year because they cannot get their needed surgery or specialized medicine in time.

Did I mention your state run care will lead to long waiting lists?

The government, your government, like my government will be addicted to that cash and will squeeze out the competition (private health providers).

A great example is your cash-for-clunkers program: look at how your government screwed this up. Did you see on Youtube, destroying all those vehicles. I thought the green-era was about reuse and recycle. But no. Your government, which nows owns GM destroyed those cars. Destroyed the competition.

The same thing will happen with your health care, Kirk. I like the U.S. and its strong economy. When you go down that road of Big Government, its a one-way street and you cannot turn around.

But I still haven’t got an apology for calling me a liar. And I still haven’t heard your experience and how you got “jerked around” by your insurance provider. And you still haven’t got off this site, like I asked you to.

Empty broken record rhetoric will only get you so far. I have refuted and counterpointed everyone of your arguments.

I like to think you are akin to a punch drunk boxer, Kirk, back in his corner, muttering the same strategy over-and-over, but already lost the fight with the spectators long gone from the building.

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By: Kirk http://blogs.reuters.com/commentaries/2009/08/26/the-mirage-of-us-healthcare/comment-page-5/#comment-4693 Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:02:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/commentaries/?p=3124#comment-4693 Few people are choosing to opt-out of insurance today, but there are many people that cannot afford to opt-in. Reuters has an article just today titled “Study links 45,000 U.S. deaths to lack of insurance”. That is the reality of our current health insurance system. People should Google that article. There is something very wrong when the richest country in the world allows 45,000 of its people to die simply to protect the profits of private insurance companies. That’s 45,000 people a year, one every 12 minutes. Those are just the people who die, many more live with debilitating conditions that could be fixed if they could afford the care. Healthcare reform, at its core, is a human rights issue.

Health insurance reform is not a government takeover of healthcare. It is simply more safeguards (regulations) on the private insurance industry to ensure that you can’t be rejected based on pre-existing conditions, you can’t be dropped if you pay your premiums, and you will know what your insurance company covers and doesn’t cover.

In addition, there will be a public option that will be a government run plan. No one is forced into the public option. It is an option that Americans can either choose or not choose. The public option is not subsidized; it is paid for through the premiums of those who participate, just like private insurance.

The only subsidies are tax credits to purchase insurance. These tax credits can be used either for private insurance or the public option. It is up to the participant to choose which plan to use the tax credits on. It is these tax credits that will ensure that every American has health insurance.

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By: Drew http://blogs.reuters.com/commentaries/2009/08/26/the-mirage-of-us-healthcare/comment-page-5/#comment-4648 Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:02:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/commentaries/?p=3124#comment-4648 At least with the insurance companies, you have the option to opt out, like your 30 – 47 million uninsured. When the government takes over your health care plan. You will have no choice. You will have given up that choice.

Don’t believe everything the government says. That’s why I know you’re just a dumb kid.

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By: Drew http://blogs.reuters.com/commentaries/2009/08/26/the-mirage-of-us-healthcare/comment-page-5/#comment-4647 Fri, 18 Sep 2009 08:58:01 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/commentaries/?p=3124#comment-4647 Got any more useful tidbits of information from that script of yours…

You will have a difficult time even finding a GP in your state run system. The government will drive out the private option. They will be addicted to money. Your money. You (I mean your parents) and the rest of the middle class will be paying dearly for this ‘free’ health care. Your leader, Obama, says its not right that people should go broke when they sick. You will all be broke! The middle class always pays the tax burden. You will be paying for everybody’s health bills and people will be paying for your high level autism. And yes I have no interest at all except the amazing challenge of drumming this into your overly dense skull. I’m right and you are wrong.

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