Comments on: The taxpayers’ burden http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/12/04/the-taxpayers-burden/ Sat, 23 Mar 2013 13:49:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: TeeTime http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/12/04/the-taxpayers-burden/#comment-722 Mon, 05 Dec 2011 20:07:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/?p=214#comment-722 Based on this information, the best solution for the U.S. is a Justice Dept break-up of the mega-banks (ala AT&T) into banking (local) and non-banking institutions (long distance) so that clarity in the social contract between what our government backstops, bank deposits and a stable financial transaction environment and what it “should” not – normal capital market activities and financially engineered speculative bets placed by mega financial institutions. Such a break-up will clear the air, and return the cost of capital for a more focused, less risky banking sector to where it should be. Today the sector is trading more like a gambling casino than a regulated utility which is very unhealthy for bog standard business activity. This leaves major incongruities in the market between very large credit-worthy businesses that can make their own market for credit, and small businesses that cannot – strangling the economy leading to major income inequality. Add a Federal Reserve that thinks it is curing the problem by buying all the U.S. Treasuries off the market that Obama can get Congress to allow him to issue, and you have the formula a financial catastrophe as money dis-intermediates what should be a stable regulated banking sector due to distortions in the markets for bank deposit rates (too low – savers are required to subsidize risky financial instruments they should not have to) and bank equity capital (to high for a normal bank – equity capital is being withdrawn from the sector due to the added risk in the bank capital structure). If our government does not do this soon, it will find itself in the catastrophic position of trying to backstop the entire equity market – not a possibility. The only practical direction will be to carve out the clear banking assets that belong in the regulated utility world that provided great stability from the 1930’s until the 1990’s – and return the riskier capital market activities to where they belong so that the market can get rid of these government induced price distortions. We all we be better off when this happens.

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By: alanchristopher http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/12/04/the-taxpayers-burden/#comment-721 Mon, 05 Dec 2011 18:09:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/?p=214#comment-721 The author is correct about the problems of deregulated financial institutions in the West. This criminal creed continues to be spread by Republicans and the Tea Party. Watching this approaching disaster for over a decade, I have been moving assets to other countries, most of whom are communist or former communist nations because there has been a breakdown of law and order in the democracies. In addition, the returns are better because the leaders believe in plans, so investors have some ideas of goals and objectives that allow measurement of progress. As a former Special Forces soldier, it seems bizarre to aid the economic development of countries that I once prepared to infiltrate to sabotage their economies and reduce their ability to support their armed forces. One can only hope that, one day, the democracies will regain the courage to arrest, try, and punish corporate thieves with the same zeal that they use against muggers and armed robbers. Until then, it looks like I will help the communists and former communists to dominate the world because the West cannot be trusted at this time. I will warn the West to change, but I will invest my money where the returns are best, and it is the West’s fault if it fails.

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By: SanPa http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/12/04/the-taxpayers-burden/#comment-720 Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:39:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/?p=214#comment-720 A rehash of Nouriel Roubini et al. in a single page. In short, Reaganomics was the conservative response to Johnsonian Great Society Policy, and failed just a miserably.

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By: DavidCayJ http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/12/04/the-taxpayers-burden/#comment-719 Mon, 05 Dec 2011 16:35:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/?p=214#comment-719 @ breezinthru,

there is no reason we cannot manage the debt we have or even a larger debt, as I have explained in other columns. To get historical perspective please read

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/2 6/column-dcjohnston-norquist-idUSN1E76P0 MH20110726

That said, governments should levy as much as they spend over the long run. We ran modest deficits, fully explainable by long-term capital investments in commonwealth goods like roads and harbors, before Reaganism began in 1981.

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By: breezinthru http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/12/04/the-taxpayers-burden/#comment-717 Mon, 05 Dec 2011 09:04:01 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/?p=214#comment-717 I am one of the lucky taxpayers who still has a good job. If the government took my house, my car and sold everything I own except one change of clothes and a warm winter coat… and did the same for all of the “middle class” taxpayers in America, they would still not have enough money to pay off our debt.

At some point, creditors might be forced to seek repayment from the people who are capable of paying, but it might take a crisis like the one the Eurozone is experiencing to make it happen.

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By: TheUSofA http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/12/04/the-taxpayers-burden/#comment-716 Mon, 05 Dec 2011 03:25:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/?p=214#comment-716 ContagionEx

http://youtu.be/WA7rGotO-oI

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By: anon9254 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/12/04/the-taxpayers-burden/#comment-715 Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:48:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/?p=214#comment-715 As far as I can understand it, it seems to me the policy that Angela Markel and Nicolas Sarkozy support are against the the methods used described in the article- i.e. the banksters. No, to the creation of money, no to Eurobonds, etc.

I can remember 4 years ago of so when Paul Krugman warned the German austerity would only put them in a worse position but that has not proved to be the case.

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By: TheUSofA http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/12/04/the-taxpayers-burden/#comment-714 Sun, 04 Dec 2011 20:01:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/?p=214#comment-714 The damage is now done. The price must be paid.
WHO WILL PAY?

The answer is simple, anyone but those who caused the damage to being with. This is capitalism today. Those who made the risky bets have diverted the risk to others: taxpayers or the general public who holds currency. The gains from the bets are private, and theirs to keep, but all the losses are distributed to the public via government bailouts or money-printing. The first shifts the losses to the taxpayer, and the second shifts the losses to everyone holding the currency being devalued.

The bankers and Wall Street have accumulated even greater wealth thanks to deregulation, allowing the rigged casino to take hold. They will exert even more influence via lobbyists and donations going forward. Too big to fail means the public, the taxpayer is left to genuflect before Wall Street.

The global CB moves are propping the system up temporarily, a short term liquidity fix but the fundamental and structural issues of course are still there. It amounts to a band-aid. There’s still Greece (we forgot about Greece, became a sideshow), Italy, Spain and maybe France (which from I read is a little bit unclear) to contend with. Defaults on the horizon. I don’t know what sort of financial alchemy can be created this time to save the bankers.

One thing to note about the piece. Financial crimes are brazen, they’ve become systemic. Judge Rakoff slapping down the SEC/Citibank settlement was a welcome crumb but a lone crumb nonetheless. We’ll see if the powers that be get the case moved to a different court.

The plundering and pillaging of the national treasury by criminal Wall Street bankers continues, non-enforcement of existing laws against those who committed the largest crime in history is status quo. Market fundamentalism reigns.

Meanwhile young people across the country are getting beaten, bludgeoned, shot with tear gas and pepper sprayed by police. That’s where the enforcement seems to be happening.

Some tragic irony here.

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By: TheUSofA http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/12/04/the-taxpayers-burden/#comment-713 Sun, 04 Dec 2011 19:33:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/?p=214#comment-713 @scarr34

Please tell me that is not your only take away from this piece. What you are implying is correct though, modern day Conservatives/Republicans have little principles left and their hypocrisy has no bounds.

Newt Gingrich is another prime example. Newt made between $1.6 million and $1.8 million in consulting fees from two Freddie Mac contracts.

“Political corruption undoubtedly played a huge role in the collapse of Freddie Mac and its counterpart Fannie Mae, which has left U.S. taxpayers potentially on the hook for trillions of dollars. In 2009 Judicial Watch obtained internal government documents proving that members of Congress (such as the disgraceful Barney Frank) were well aware that Fannie and Freddie were in deep trouble due to corruption and incompetence and yet they did nothing to stop it. JW continues pursuing Freddie and Fannie records but the Obama Administration (the most transparent in history?) engaged in a legal battle to keep each and every one them secret. Ironically, President Obama, the man who Gingrich is seeking to oust from office, is keeping secret public documents that could shed light on Gingrich’s relationship with Freddie.”

http://tinyurl.com/7ddd4gu
http://tinyurl.com/7o8jwca

Yet Newt is now in the lead for the Republican nomination. The voters have put on their uniforms, pulled out the pom poms and turned off their minds. Much easier to cheer than to spend time to look at the facts and the context and see what’s right in front of you.

That being said Glass-Steagall was repealed under Bill Clinton. Democrats have done their part. He is loved on Wall Street still. Alan Greenspan’s tenure was spread across administrations. Economic teams too have been handed down. Greenspan was once considered a god who fervently ascribed to deregulation and also felt that fraud needn’t be investigated. How far he has fallen. The damage he is responsible for is immeasurable. He is not alone.

This was a good Frontline piece: http://tinyurl.com/yfttz9j

So I would say not to simply vote for anyone. Instead, it’s time we stop fighting with each other and look at the facts, the context. It’s time to demand accountability from all party’s. It’s time to put away the uniforms, stop the cheering and the coddling of our leadership simply because they’re wearing our colors/uniform.

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By: scarr34 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/12/04/the-taxpayers-burden/#comment-712 Sun, 04 Dec 2011 18:55:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/?p=214#comment-712 So…we should all vote Democratic? Because they’re the party of the “people”?

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