Comments on: The corporations that occupy Congress http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/12/20/the-corporations-that-occupy-congress/ Sat, 23 Mar 2013 13:49:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: xit007 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/12/20/the-corporations-that-occupy-congress/#comment-827 Thu, 05 Jan 2012 17:30:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/?p=237#comment-827 It is all about the system that the political parties have morphed our democracy into. Of course, if you make it legal to avoid taxes and lobby – the corporations will play by that rigged game. Hmmmm – who makes these laws. This has been so in your face and defended by the most corrupt legal minds that bend our freedoms to corrupt our system of government and democracy. The corporations aren’t the real problem – a government and political system on crack is the problem. It is disgusting and in your face – on both sides of the aisle. I would be considered a conservative/independent – and government has become a swirling pot incompetence and corruption. So why do people want to pump more money into it – it only breeds more corruption. Take the money out of the lobbying and congress – and the rats will leave or vote them out. If it is the tax code – strip it out. Any power you put in their hands will be used to suck money from the system. It may be too late….how can we return to accountability and free markets with this broken system. Anyone who doesn’t see this – is insane or hooked on crack ‘$’.

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By: xcanada2 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/12/20/the-corporations-that-occupy-congress/#comment-824 Tue, 03 Jan 2012 02:00:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/?p=237#comment-824 @walstir:

And if the top 20% should be able to reduce the wages of the bottom 80% to zero, who would do the real work?

Regards taxes, would you find it surprising that the only people left making money, also are the only ones paying taxes?

You seem to miss the point that the upper 20%, or 1%, mostly make their money on the backs of the 80%, or 99%. I say “mostly”, because, since globalization, they also make a lot of money on the backs of the poor throughout the world (after having recently thrown the rest of us under the train).

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By: walstir http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/12/20/the-corporations-that-occupy-congress/#comment-823 Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:33:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/?p=237#comment-823 Missing from this article is any recognition that $0.67 of every $1.00 of all Federal Tax revenue comes from the the top paying 20% of taxpayers. The remaining 80% of the population generates the other $0.33 of Federal Tax each revenue dollar. If lobbying was effective in eliminating taxes; then the top ⅕ of the population would not be carrying 2/3 of the tax burden. http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxtopics  /currentdistribution.cfm

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By: GMavros http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/12/20/the-corporations-that-occupy-congress/#comment-822 Sun, 01 Jan 2012 05:48:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/?p=237#comment-822 History tells us that extreme greed, need of power and material possession will eventually destroy every society. These are man’s most powerful and self-destructive desires. Yet we never seem to learn, and Homo sapiens have proven to be far less intelligent than all the other animal species. Worse yet compared to the past, today it is a global reality and a global disaster. Unless there is the very unlikely event of a worldwide revolution, there isn’t much to hope for in the foreseeable future.

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By: 2cartalkers http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/12/20/the-corporations-that-occupy-congress/#comment-821 Sun, 01 Jan 2012 02:01:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/?p=237#comment-821 It is all about “The Almighty Buck.”

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By: buckaroo5 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/12/20/the-corporations-that-occupy-congress/#comment-820 Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:38:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/?p=237#comment-820 The way I see this is we have two classes of people, one group spend everything they have in spite of an adequate, opportunistic education, access to financial data, & hundreds of 501(c3) organizations with big spending budgets willing to help with educated personal attention & another group who shepherded their income to get the most out of educational opportunities, intelligent associations, aesthetic lifestyle, & respect for the unforeseen. Now big government come in and says we are going to raise taxes on your annual income because of lack of money due to poor government management. However, those who have inherited, tax exclusion, deferred wealth will not be asked to give up anything because our tax code does not recognize what they have as income to be taxed… I say that is inequitable ? What do you say ?

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By: bellhop http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/12/20/the-corporations-that-occupy-congress/#comment-819 Wed, 28 Dec 2011 22:53:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/?p=237#comment-819 the united states needs a third political party, one that does not accept corporate donations….winning just one elected seat could be the beginning of politcal reform in that country that i would say is …long long overdue.

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By: Mazer http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/12/20/the-corporations-that-occupy-congress/#comment-818 Wed, 28 Dec 2011 15:53:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/?p=237#comment-818 SanPa,
Fascism is Corporations working for the state but you are correct in the sense that America is heading toward a totalitarian government except it is/will ruled by corporations.
Sheep- You must be a lobbyist

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By: mrphilosophias http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/12/20/the-corporations-that-occupy-congress/#comment-817 Tue, 27 Dec 2011 18:40:23 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/?p=237#comment-817 David, thank you for this great article on a very important topic! As far as the role of NGOs’ in politics, lobbying, PAC’s, and the general symbiosis of corporate interests in the affairs of the nation: corporations are false corpus, they are not living persons of the same sort as Human Beings are ‘persons.’ To call corporations persons, and bequest upon them rights of the same sort as Humans, which effectively amounts to precedence over regard for Human dignity in many cases, is problematic in principle and practice to say the least.

Corporations do have one thing in common with humans however, and that is that they are trying to compete in a vicious enterprise of survival themselves. As such corporations have interests as well as people do, and because corporations are comprised of people, and because it is a ‘free-market’ so to speak, it is understandable that the individuals representing these corporations may find it necessary to seek representation at the level of Government in the same manner that citizens seek representation. This creates a conflict of interest to say the least.

An idea: what if corporations had their own representatives, and the number of representatives was increased to sufficiently satisfy statistically critical sample sizes? 535 people run the country-these civil servants are elected officials. Last I checked there were 265+ million adults in the USA. Is this a representative sample? Unfortunately this is only one such short coming to be discovered when critically considering the current state of political affairs.

There is much that corporations do that can be said to be of utility, and beneficial, to society, and the individuals which participate in it. This should never come at the expense of sound and accepted principle or practice-especially in regard to human dignity.

Allegedly we believe, as a nation, in inalienable rights which are considered to be fundamental in principle. Yet at the same time many corporations believe in profit as a first principle, as if it is an ends in and of itself, and even at the expense of regard for Human dignity and these very ‘rights’ which are called fundamental-this is an absurdity! All this is done in the name of the share holders, and for ‘increasing returns,’ or profit in other words.

It seems that when people are suffering for a cause it is either sacrifice or exploitation. To sacrifice human dignity at the altar of profits, is the love of money, and as 1 Timothy 6 reads “9Those who want to be rich are falling into temptation and into a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires, which plunge them into ruin and destruction. 10For the love of money is the root of all evils…”

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By: SanPa http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/12/20/the-corporations-that-occupy-congress/#comment-815 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 12:35:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/?p=237#comment-815 So the argument is that corporations own congress, run the White House, and that the Supreme Court has ruled that the ultimate voice in elections goes to corporations. Isn’t that by definition, fascism?

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