Comments on: Come down from the mountain, Mr. President http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/2012/10/04/come-down-from-the-mountain-mr-president/ Fri, 31 Jul 2015 03:37:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: malnute http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/2012/10/04/come-down-from-the-mountain-mr-president/#comment-2073 Mon, 08 Oct 2012 20:33:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/?p=1248#comment-2073 I think Mr. Obama played it brilliantly, he is ahead in the polls- Let the other guy stick his neck/ass out!

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By: Lissandreau http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/2012/10/04/come-down-from-the-mountain-mr-president/#comment-2061 Sat, 06 Oct 2012 21:53:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/?p=1248#comment-2061 Obama’s vanity and egoism was such he could almost not be bothered to debate. Any reasonable person who watched the debate has to admit Romney is smarter, can think on his feet and is quick. Obama just a plodder, should be teaching law at SUNY.

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By: LysanderTucker http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/2012/10/04/come-down-from-the-mountain-mr-president/#comment-2060 Sat, 06 Oct 2012 16:33:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/?p=1248#comment-2060 @ paintcan

If you have to legislate that a thing is so, it only stands that it never was so in the hearts of men. It is nothing more than forcing some standard, moral or otherwise, on others. Where would I start? Ending legislated monopolies of all kinds, including currency, land, tariff, and patent/copyright. Without these four, there is no power held over any community or body of people. Where would I end? With the idea that if a thing is necessary to be done, it will be done out of necessity. Regardless of, and without need of, taxation or force. Everything else is not necessary.

When you say “Many urban areas have larger budgets and employ more people than some of the smaller countries.”, I read “There is enough concentrated power there to tax, rob and enslave enough people by ‘legislation of gunpoint’ to support a massive group of plunderers who claim to do what they do for everyone else’s own good” These are the most vile of criminals. A mafia who extorts money through threat of death and claims it’s for their own protection.

Like Plato and his 10,000 member Polis, I’ll remind that Thomas Jefferson eventually saw the folly also and wanted to break it all down to Wards of 100 (I believe) people. Not that any larger should be illegal, only that, that idea (illegal) inevitably means that it is already large and powerful enough to declare, and enforce, what is, or is not, “illegal” regardless of the mindset of any given people in any given region.

The point is, if a group of people want something, they will voluntarily support it, or associate in numbers to accomplish it. I have no problem with a governing body, as long as there is no such thing as involuntary financial support of it by threat of gunpoint, or, as we all call it, taxation.

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By: 4ngry4merican http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/2012/10/04/come-down-from-the-mountain-mr-president/#comment-2059 Sat, 06 Oct 2012 14:29:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/?p=1248#comment-2059 “The incumbent was cautious, tired and on some level – it seemed – turned off by the manipulation of facts that is the ugly heart of politics. Mitt Romney, on the other hand, seemed to relish it.”

Am I the only one who doesn’t believe that being the better manipulator of facts does not constitute “winning” a debate?

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By: eleno http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/2012/10/04/come-down-from-the-mountain-mr-president/#comment-2058 Fri, 05 Oct 2012 19:05:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/?p=1248#comment-2058 So funny reading the comments on the Obama debate fiasco: it was the moderator; it was Romney’s rudeness, it was Obama’s politeness, it was (from Gore) the altitude.

Everything was mentioned except the most obvious: Obama’s incompetence.

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By: ofilha http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/2012/10/04/come-down-from-the-mountain-mr-president/#comment-2057 Fri, 05 Oct 2012 13:37:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/?p=1248#comment-2057 Amen,
The man disappointed me after he was elected. He seemed too focused on compromise and allowed the Republicans to humiliate him, obstruct any progress and were public about their intent on obstructing in order to make him a one term president. Obama allowed the Republicans to define him and in the end just left many of his supporters desilusioned. I was hoping the debate would be his opportunity and he went back to his aloof, above the frey attitude and once allowed Romney to define him in this debate.
The only hope i have is that he is holding his fire for the second debate where pointing out Romney’s chameleon appearance will be more effective. If the second debate is going to be a second rehash of his first inept debate, then my question is: if he did not fight during the first term, if he did not fight during the debates, why should i expect that he would fight on his second term, and then i might as well either vote for Romney or then sit out of this election.

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By: explorer08 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/2012/10/04/come-down-from-the-mountain-mr-president/#comment-2056 Fri, 05 Oct 2012 02:31:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/?p=1248#comment-2056 Here’s an email I sent to the Commission on Presidential Debates:

To Whom It May Concern:

To many of us in the Denver area the presidential debate last night was an embarrassment to the greater Denver area and to the University of Denver in particular. Jim Lehrer did an absolutely horrible job of moderation. It’s like he left the stage as the so-called debate began. For an institution of higher learning such as the University of Denver Lehrer’s performance was strictly grade school level. Forget the debaters and forget politics for a few minutes and just consider how poorly you folks designed and implemented the debate. We learned nothing!

I, and many others, sure hope you don’t continue this embarrassment in the other cities yet to come.

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By: AZAnnie http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/2012/10/04/come-down-from-the-mountain-mr-president/#comment-2054 Thu, 04 Oct 2012 22:43:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/?p=1248#comment-2054 Disclosure: I am an independent who is voting for President Obama.

As I was watching the debate last night, the following quote from H.L. Mencken (1880-1956) came to mind:

“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

It was painful to watch the President trying to maintain his professionalism and intellectualism, while struggling
with the “ugly heart of politics.” Romney’s behaviour was rude and disrespectful, not to mention arrogant. Sadly, Obama will have to ‘suit up’ for the next debate, in spite of his ideals and honorable intentions.

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By: paintcan http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/2012/10/04/come-down-from-the-mountain-mr-president/#comment-2053 Thu, 04 Oct 2012 20:21:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/?p=1248#comment-2053 “frustrated by Romney’s deft shift to the center and audacious effort to portray Obama as the extremist:”

In other words style is everything and the candidates don’t have to be more that programmable dolls? His “deft shift to the center” suggests that the candidate doesn’t believe a word he says.

I thought that was the case since Reagan. Or maybe it was since Kennedy/Nixon?

The only thing the voters need now for that “feel good” glow of participation is to be able to stick their fingers in a bottle of blue ink.

In a way, I’m glad I wasn’t that interested in politics until I got this computer and started to really read the news and not just listen to it.

@LysanderTucker – What on earth do you think will replace it? “Little house on the Prarie” is being fracked. And there isn’t a single level of government in this country that someone couldn’t complain is too large. Many urban areas have larger budgets and employ more people than some of the smaller countries. Where would you like to start disassembling big government and where would you stop?

Plato figured the ideal Polis was about 10,000. Any municipality in excess of that figure should be illegal?

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By: eleno http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/2012/10/04/come-down-from-the-mountain-mr-president/#comment-2052 Thu, 04 Oct 2012 20:00:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/?p=1248#comment-2052 Is that you David with you two feet sticking out of Obama’s ass?

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