Comments on: Why intervening in Mali was the right thing to do http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/2013/01/17/why-intervening-in-mali-was-the-right-thing-to-do/ Fri, 31 Jul 2015 03:37:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: jrpardinas http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/2013/01/17/why-intervening-in-mali-was-the-right-thing-to-do/#comment-2486 Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:54:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/?p=1452#comment-2486 Is this going to be another three-part Tag Team act by France and the USA?

That is, something like what they rehearsed in Vietnam:
1). France gets its ass kicked.
2). The USA steps into the ring to offer relief.
3). The USA gets its ass kicked.

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By: giorgio411 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/2013/01/17/why-intervening-in-mali-was-the-right-thing-to-do/#comment-2485 Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:51:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/?p=1452#comment-2485 How can you call the rescue of 685 Algerian and 107 foreigner workers “botched rescue attempt”.

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By: Samrch http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/2013/01/17/why-intervening-in-mali-was-the-right-thing-to-do/#comment-2483 Sat, 19 Jan 2013 02:05:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/?p=1452#comment-2483 Unless one kills teachers or bankrupts the schools of violence. Staying in an area infected by that is a losing cause. Killing some bad guys to show those same instructors they will have losses and getting out is the best idea.

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By: usagadfly http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/2013/01/17/why-intervening-in-mali-was-the-right-thing-to-do/#comment-2481 Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:24:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/?p=1452#comment-2481 In the first place, not all devout Muslims are “Jihadists” any more than all devout Jews are “Jewists”. Whatever a Jewist is. But a Jewist is just as well defined as a “Jihadist”. Both are religious people absolutely convinced of their own superiority. Both seek to rule others different from themselves.

Mostly, any thinking that even considers a “Jihadist” category of Muslims is ignorant and prejudiced. Certainly as prejudiced as thinking all Jews are “Jewist” or perhaps more misleadingly as “Zionists” or “Israelis”. Does anyone who promotes the new Crusade against Islam deny the right of religious Jews to make their own laws in Israel? Or the right of Christians to make laws in lands majority Christian?

Mostly American thinkers would do well to understand that at base one’s own ethnicity or religion produces a bias in explaining the world. The thinking of Jewish intellectuals needs to be understood as seeing non-Jews and non-Jewish interests in their own, different light. We are all bound to our culture. American culture, historically, is not devoted to the obliteration of Islam as a religion or as a political force.

Let us solve our own problems and stop bankrupting America with Crusader wars around the Muslim world. Let us pay for our own promised insurance benefits for our own people instead of squandering almost all of the FICA taxes collected in the past 50 years on meaningless wars against countries which have not attacked us first.

If we must have the largest and most expensive military in the world, let us rein it in to our own territory and pull out of foreign bases and cancel foreign deployments. Imperialism only thrives when it makes a profit. Our Imperial military does not make a profit. Pull it out.

No more wars!

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By: paintcan http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/2013/01/17/why-intervening-in-mali-was-the-right-thing-to-do/#comment-2480 Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:33:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/david-rohde/?p=1452#comment-2480 It’s almost charming to entertain notions of the right thing to do and than later to learn: your side or the enemy side are both beating blindly at “the right thing”.

Continuous warfare that must engage the strengths of any country for a very long time without end may indeed have been the right thing but the cost and the pain takes it toll on the warriors, good or evil. The only thing that can seem to out endure men are machines and even they can be broken and wear out. It is debatable always what priority is highest when the rich aid or claim they aid the weak. They always serve two masters against better advice.

The largest part of Africa seems to be becoming more parched in the past decade. Take a look at Google earth and so much of Africa now looks brown and streaked by what seems to be desertification.

It makes less sense, if that is the case, to further aggravate those dying regions with more warfare because ultimately the dessert will conquer anything you put there. It would be a real sacrifice – albeit “Children of Men” like to relocate populations from regions than may no longer be able to support human life at all.

Warfare in such areas may really be nothing more than shooting a corpse in its final death rattles. It may make the “heroes” feel less than useless but it won’t really accomplish much by way of true reclamation from conditions that no country or continent, even with far more significant strength and investment, is capable of countering. The self styled St. Georges will be fighting forces that claim they believe in their abject submission to the “will of God”. The “enlightened” countries may actually be doing the worst thing in regions that may have more value to the wealthy for their geological resources than their human population.

I am a born again cynic and know damned well people will try to sell you a rotten junker of a used car. It is in their interest to lie to gain an advantage or to make a sale. The “Devil” is seductive” and very clever. And his sole aim may be a hatred so deep he wants only to see countries and even entire civilizations burdened so severely it only takes them down as the better healed vent vital resources trying to counter their last struggles before their own vengeful forces bite the dust. In other words, they don’t want to go into extinction without taking the survivors with them. Dylan Thomas’s advice to his father, in other words; they may simple not want to “go gently into that good night”.

But the wealthy are frightful hypocrites and will claim concern and yet never take their eyes off their own ability to get and stay wealthy and to stay on top and in control of as much as possible. Never talk wars as the “right thing” without also admitting that concern is always the highest priority concern.

It might be better for those who can to start adopting the children of Africa rather than contribute even more to the slaughter of their parents: or if the later is unavoidable, not to neglect the former.

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