Comments on: The benefits of a ‘de-Americanized world’ http://blogs.reuters.com/edgy-optimist/2013/10/16/the-benefits-of-a-de-americanized-world/ A clear-eyed view from Zachary Karabell Thu, 06 Feb 2014 10:10:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: OneOfTheSheep http://blogs.reuters.com/edgy-optimist/2013/10/16/the-benefits-of-a-de-americanized-world/#comment-945 Sun, 20 Oct 2013 02:08:23 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/edgy-optimist/?p=346#comment-945 2Borknot2B,

The lips appear to move but nothing intelligible comes out. ??? “Spiritual imbalance? Please.

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By: 2Borknot2B http://blogs.reuters.com/edgy-optimist/2013/10/16/the-benefits-of-a-de-americanized-world/#comment-944 Sat, 19 Oct 2013 21:49:23 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/edgy-optimist/?p=346#comment-944 OneoftheSpeep. The concentration of money and power is the cause of the environmental, socio-economic and spiritual imbalance. The failure of that concentration is not a option. There will be approximately 10 Billion souls on this planet and will level out at that number.

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By: OneOfTheSheep http://blogs.reuters.com/edgy-optimist/2013/10/16/the-benefits-of-a-de-americanized-world/#comment-942 Fri, 18 Oct 2013 21:56:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/edgy-optimist/?p=346#comment-942 @synnub99,

Society no longer needs the number of people to do what needs doing it once did. Unemployment is thus destined to increase without end. So the millions unnecessary at the public trough will be increasingly “at risk”. Computers have eliminated millions of once “normal” functions that productively employed “working class” people.

Illegal international squatters, related large families, and the “normal” reproductive rate of existing citizens mean more and more people are chasing fewer and fewer jobs across the globe. There are only a few actions that will address such root causes, and these are not choices but actions already necessary across the planet.

The earth’s present SEVEN BILLION (and exploding) population MUST be reduced by at least half (to a number sustainable). The “civilized” way is through consensus to adopt and endure population CONTROL and attrition (not replacing everyone that dies). The “kick the can down the road” alternatives are the historically efficient vagaries of starvation, pestilence and war.

In addition, economies must figure out how to make those whose efforts ARE still required efficient and productive enough to also, through taxation not confiscatory, support those who have no productive place in society. They must concurrently ensure otherwise idle time is occupied, otherwise it will be the work(s) of the devil that they will do.

The “make work” approach of unions merely decreases already uncompetitive productivity. They have no victim to threaten or intimidate that can change fundamental socio-economic reality.

Regional implementation will merely concentrate suffering within those countries that can or will do nothing. That will inevitably result in warfare between the “responsible and comfortable” and the irresponsible and desperate.

If environmental balance is not achieved in time, man is toast. We’re not talking centuries, but decades. Failure is not an option. We live in interesting times.

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By: tmc http://blogs.reuters.com/edgy-optimist/2013/10/16/the-benefits-of-a-de-americanized-world/#comment-941 Fri, 18 Oct 2013 15:30:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/edgy-optimist/?p=346#comment-941 @Very good counter points @wildcat27. Hopefully the long period of stability allowed other parts of our societies, like the global economy and global social media, to gain enough traction that they outweigh the propensity for war and power struggles.
I think they do in the important parts of the world, and it’s spreading fast.

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By: behave http://blogs.reuters.com/edgy-optimist/2013/10/16/the-benefits-of-a-de-americanized-world/#comment-940 Fri, 18 Oct 2013 09:58:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/edgy-optimist/?p=346#comment-940 @synnub99 — One million of goverment workers tasted some striking advantanges of the American democracy being deliberately kicked out of jobs, because that superefficient American economy could not generate enough cash to pay them instead of borrowing money from China.

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By: wildcat27 http://blogs.reuters.com/edgy-optimist/2013/10/16/the-benefits-of-a-de-americanized-world/#comment-939 Fri, 18 Oct 2013 08:27:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/edgy-optimist/?p=346#comment-939 The argument that a multi polar world would be more stable is extremely questionable. The period of American dominance was the most stable in world history and brought about an era of unprecedented prosperity for people both inside and outside the US. Sadly the decadence created by our success is likely leading to our downfall, however, this is not cause for celebration. Those smaller “centers of influence” that are likely to replace the US are regional hegemons that are more likely to use force to maintain rule and less likely to create a fair order in which nations stand as equals. That is not to say the current US led order is always fair, but the next one will be less so. Far worse, many of these hegemons have deplorable human rights records, and the sovereignty of the individual is likely to deteriorate. I cannot imagine how anyone thinks that China or Russia are going to be good for individuals in neighboring countries, when they oppress their own citizens for the benefit of the leadership. This article lays out the path of American decline, but with no clear indication of how it benefits anyone. The opportunities created by a US power vacuum are likely to be taken advantage of by despots and at best will result in oppression and worst a return of great power wars.

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By: Reuters66 http://blogs.reuters.com/edgy-optimist/2013/10/16/the-benefits-of-a-de-americanized-world/#comment-938 Thu, 17 Oct 2013 23:33:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/edgy-optimist/?p=346#comment-938 All of these activities were FORETOLD in our famous Holy Bible. At the end of history, a large economic, financial and military empire will attempt to conquer the world. It will attempt to create a uni-polar world and insist that these things must happen.

It will make a god out of himself, magnifying himself over everyone and insist on total autonomy. He will boast that he is greater than them all. Becomes exceptional. (Daniel 11:36,37)

Giving no respect or consideration to subservient people or land. This “King” will act according to his own will. So great will he fancy himself to be, that he will even take on the Prince of Princes in battle, but in doing so he will seal his own doom. (Daniel 8:25)

This King will worship his military and spend lavishly on it. (Daniel 11:38) The strategy taken by the King of the North unravels and begins to become very ($)costly to him. (Runs debts, deficits, & sequesters). His economic and financial wealth takes a hit. His cities and infrastructure becomes old. He starts to go broke! His friends & allies turn on him. And in the end finds himself all alone.

This King starts to become concerned that he is LOSING POWER and begins to spy on everyone. It will begin to use sophisticated forms of intelligence like High-tech drones. Most people have already heard of the infamous Big Brother is watching narrative where the government will be able to access public records for their own private use.

All of humanity becomes roused because of the policies enacted by the King of the North. (Daniel 7:2) The sanctuary of humanity becomes completely disturbed and polarized. People will become divided and start to wage War against each other.

The cycle of violence becomes commonplace. We probably remember our grandparents telling us tales that we would see Wars, Wars, & Rumors of Wars. Eventually in the End, he shall be broken by the hand of God, though no human means could overpower him. (Daniel 8:25)

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By: SaveRMiddle http://blogs.reuters.com/edgy-optimist/2013/10/16/the-benefits-of-a-de-americanized-world/#comment-936 Thu, 17 Oct 2013 20:40:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/edgy-optimist/?p=346#comment-936 Would there be war if there was no Patriotism?

I notice the Multinationals shed theirs rather quietly yet somehow, it seems acceptable.

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By: tmc http://blogs.reuters.com/edgy-optimist/2013/10/16/the-benefits-of-a-de-americanized-world/#comment-935 Thu, 17 Oct 2013 20:03:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/edgy-optimist/?p=346#comment-935 Actually @ptiffany, there is change happening to our world currency. Since the crash of 2008, many more large business deals have been done in other currencies. I recall not to long ago even some oil trades were done in I think it was rubles or renminbi. Also the Europeans are considering new banking models both domestically and internationally. It’s not going to happen overnight but subtle changes lead to larger ones. I realize you’re a wealth person and do not need to interact in international business, but those of us that do can see these changes both in attitude and in contract negotiations. You can’t always assume payment in US dollars anymore.

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By: ptiffany http://blogs.reuters.com/edgy-optimist/2013/10/16/the-benefits-of-a-de-americanized-world/#comment-934 Thu, 17 Oct 2013 18:54:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/edgy-optimist/?p=346#comment-934 So, which countries are the other “superpowers”?

China recently tried hard (yet again) to replace the US dollar as the world’s reserve currency. How’s that going? Don’t bother answering. It went over like a lead balloon.

It’s laughable to claim that the world’s economy has recovered better than the United States. How are Brazil, Ireland, Spain, Greece, Portugal, Italy and the UK doing? For that matter, why are the economies of Europe still on the decline – with no near-term resolution? Why have the growth rates in China and India dropped precipitously?

This article is ridiculously misleading. Why?

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