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	<title>Comments on: What Islamic finance can offer</title>
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		<title>By: paintcan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/edward-hadas/2013/01/09/ethical-economy-what-islamic-finance-can-offer/comment-page-1/#comment-980</link>
		<dc:creator>paintcan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 04:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are at least five major religious traditions in the world and even when they ruled their respective roosts, their attitudes could fall &quot;on deaf ears&quot; as you say. Economics has had to evolve around or out from under them. Everyone has an instinctive need to deal &quot;fairly&quot; but the &quot;fine print&quot; can change those notions beyond recognition.

I can&#039;t imagine that Islam - even with a billion adherents, is really going to ever be able to do more than provide a &quot;flavor&quot; of banking and financial ethics. In it&#039;s own heydays, I&#039;m sure even the Sultans weren&#039;t beyond bending rules when they felt they could get away with it. It must help to have some house trained clerics around the palace. It&#039;s always nice to have a &quot;Richelieu&quot; so to speak. Removing the heads of critics helps too. In the big picture - they weren&#039;t always actually playing fair at all.  

BTW - Notice how Gabrielli has been forgotten in a matter of a few months? Religion isn&#039;t the last word on a blessed or damned thing. Not anymore it isn&#039;t. In 60 years I haven&#039;t seen it yet. 

All there ever really seems to be is &quot;thinking about it&quot;.

But you really have a good heart, Mr. Hadas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are at least five major religious traditions in the world and even when they ruled their respective roosts, their attitudes could fall &#8220;on deaf ears&#8221; as you say. Economics has had to evolve around or out from under them. Everyone has an instinctive need to deal &#8220;fairly&#8221; but the &#8220;fine print&#8221; can change those notions beyond recognition.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine that Islam &#8211; even with a billion adherents, is really going to ever be able to do more than provide a &#8220;flavor&#8221; of banking and financial ethics. In it&#8217;s own heydays, I&#8217;m sure even the Sultans weren&#8217;t beyond bending rules when they felt they could get away with it. It must help to have some house trained clerics around the palace. It&#8217;s always nice to have a &#8220;Richelieu&#8221; so to speak. Removing the heads of critics helps too. In the big picture &#8211; they weren&#8217;t always actually playing fair at all.  </p>
<p>BTW &#8211; Notice how Gabrielli has been forgotten in a matter of a few months? Religion isn&#8217;t the last word on a blessed or damned thing. Not anymore it isn&#8217;t. In 60 years I haven&#8217;t seen it yet. </p>
<p>All there ever really seems to be is &#8220;thinking about it&#8221;.</p>
<p>But you really have a good heart, Mr. Hadas.</p>
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		<title>By: covertice</title>
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		<dc:creator>covertice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 01:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>financial infiltration into american culture so they can have a foot in the door to spread their hypocritical religion.    I sense a bomb coming!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>financial infiltration into american culture so they can have a foot in the door to spread their hypocritical religion.    I sense a bomb coming!</p>
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		<title>By: Ian_Kemmish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian_Kemmish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I wouldn&#039;t mind doing business with a Sufi, but don&#039;t forget the doctrine of Taqiyya (broadly translated as dissimulation), which is a matter of dogma in Shia and a matter of practice in Wahabi Islam.

Just think of that Iiam who tells his congregation that the Q/uran orders all women and all girls to wear a hijab (it doesn&#039;t).  Is he going to  bat an eyelid at telling his congregation that it is entirely moral to rip off Westerners?  I think not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I wouldn&#8217;t mind doing business with a Sufi, but don&#8217;t forget the doctrine of Taqiyya (broadly translated as dissimulation), which is a matter of dogma in Shia and a matter of practice in Wahabi Islam.</p>
<p>Just think of that Iiam who tells his congregation that the Q/uran orders all women and all girls to wear a hijab (it doesn&#8217;t).  Is he going to  bat an eyelid at telling his congregation that it is entirely moral to rip off Westerners?  I think not.</p>
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		<title>By: tmc</title>
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		<dc:creator>tmc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 18:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, another great piece.  You have a streak going.  I&#039;m surprised that you didn&#039;t juxtapose the Chinese approach of less or no religion and far more enforced discipline.  I&#039;m not sure their model will hold very long, but I&#039;ll bet it has another century at least.  They also seem able to adapt to social changes more efficiently too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, another great piece.  You have a streak going.  I&#8217;m surprised that you didn&#8217;t juxtapose the Chinese approach of less or no religion and far more enforced discipline.  I&#8217;m not sure their model will hold very long, but I&#8217;ll bet it has another century at least.  They also seem able to adapt to social changes more efficiently too.</p>
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