Comments on: Physicists & economists, influence & responsibility http://blogs.reuters.com/emanuelderman/2011/09/02/physicists-economists-influence-responsibility/ Models.Behaving.Badly Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:10:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: stat_arb http://blogs.reuters.com/emanuelderman/2011/09/02/physicists-economists-influence-responsibility/#comment-157 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 19:32:25 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/emanuelderman/?p=301#comment-157 Regarding economists being listened to in politics: the economists whine that they’re not listened to enough.

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By: stat_arb http://blogs.reuters.com/emanuelderman/2011/09/02/physicists-economists-influence-responsibility/#comment-156 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 19:30:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/emanuelderman/?p=301#comment-156 The American Civil War needn’t be less consequential historically than Maxwell’s Laws; the effect of the science just reaches forward more into our lives.

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By: stat_arb http://blogs.reuters.com/emanuelderman/2011/09/02/physicists-economists-influence-responsibility/#comment-155 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 19:25:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/emanuelderman/?p=301#comment-155 People still love physicists. Any article about QFT gets a mention in the pop sci news.

And, of course, physicists –> quants –> glamour in the public imagination.

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By: complexwriter http://blogs.reuters.com/emanuelderman/2011/09/02/physicists-economists-influence-responsibility/#comment-154 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 06:17:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/emanuelderman/?p=301#comment-154 The logical end of this reasoning is a concept of man who is allowed to be a politician. And here we go straight to the Plato and other philosophers who tried to develop a concept of ideal state. It is almost impossible, because when we develop such concept to the final end, we receive a society divided into groups: some can rule, some can work, some can fight. I think we cannot receive from somewhere ideal politicians. Everybody pursues his own goals. and nobody is perfect.

in today world we all are trying to construct something (“the world of democracy”, “innovative economy”,”green energy”, etc.) We live in the era of social engineering, when states and cultures can be constructed artificially. This “managerial” approach took life from Marx and early social philosophers. The greatest (in sense of scale, not final result) experiments are Hitler`s Germany (1934-1945) and Soviet Russia (1917-1991). Some time ago a group of persons decided to make such experiments. Who is responsible for this? These persons, germans or russians, western civilization? Nobody. It is just a specificity of our time. If you want to be a leader, then you have to bear a risk. You have to develop new models and test them.

Imitating some german existentialists one can say that responsibility was invented by weaklings to judge Historical Leaders. Leader *creates* history, mistakes and victims are unavoidable, but it is a real history. Such kind of ideas were voiced by Joseph Gebbels (Nazi Germany minister). So maybe politicians and economists, like physicists, who created weapon of mass destruction, are out of the notion “responsibility”?

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