Comments on: Antarctic ice expands — global warming at work?

By: MIKE MCHENRY

MIKE MCHENRY — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:58:34 +0000

Unless you have time machine to take you forward 100 years you can’t disprove the IPCC climate models. There is so much uncertainty in the models that everything is possible. Those with deeper interest should visit the science blog at the U. of Colorado site http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/promet heus/author/roger Lots of debat between climate scientist.

Mike

By: JF

JF — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:40:07 +0000

Its amazing how the skeptics are so incredibly knowledgeable and expert when it comes to climate change!.. I’m in absolute awe. Tell ya, who needs the climate scientists when you have such expertise at the layman level! Darn, I should have known climate change and all the so-called observed facts are only illusions and the vast majority of scientists a bunch irrational morons or outright liars.

But to be quite serious, continued skepticism when confronted with the overwhelming scientific concensus backed by the growing realities really boils down to this one glaring fact: barring complete intellectual ineptitude the skeptics that remain are not really skeptics at all.. they are morally bankrupt individuals who are too selfish and self-centered to be willing to face the prospect of making ANY effort and sacrifice that is needed to counter man-made climate change and are not honest enough to admit it.

By: Steve

Steve — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:21:29 +0000

Increasing CO2 levels coincide with increased ocean temperatures and melting sea ice. So does indoor plumbing but that proves NOTHING. Coincidence IS NOT cause, it is two things happening at the same time. According to ice cores increased CO2 levels precede ICE AGES too!! Increased underwater volcanic activity is warming the oceans and increasing dust and hydrocarbons in the atmosphere which will increase clouds and snow pack and reduce global temperatures and may cause a new ice age. Science is A causes B and here is how. Witchcraft is A causes B now shut up and burn the witch.

By: Ben

Ben — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:28:27 +0000

Ron Wagner,

Those studies don’t point out that “while the ocean is rising” some places, it isn’t others. It is lowering at places.
I agree with patrick, the global warming fanatics realized their ideas were BS so they changed now to “climate change” so that anyone saying it is going up AND down can be refuted by “oh that is climate change” which is rather funny.

I do like to see lots of intelligent comment amid the few moronic ones.

By: Ron Wagner

Ron Wagner — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:45:52 +0000

Only real sea level rise will prove global warming, so watch the shores. Sea level will be equal around the world. Latest studies show very, very slow rise. Rise at a level that mankind can easily adapt to, and manage.

Sea level rise does not mean that the warming is man made. Much of present continents was once under the ocean.

By: Brian

Brian — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:01:40 +0000

so the melting of 4,000 year old ice sheets in the Arctic can be resolved by the refreezing this winter!? No, there is no global warming or climate change just “gloom and doomer” hysteria. Right, time to get out some books and do a little studying and turn off the Fox News.

By: Patrick

Patrick — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:47:45 +0000

Global warming may be happening, then again maybe it isn’t. I agree with the entertainers, Penn and Teller when they said, “I simply don’t know.” There is no irrefutable evidence out there on either side.

But what we do know is that the earth’s supply of oil, coal, natural gas, etc, is limited. We will reach an end. And for that reason alone, we do need reliable alternative energy sources.

The formation or melting of ice simply doesn’t matter. Sure it helps fuel arguments for both sides, but it’s a pointless academic issue.

By: Da6d

Da6d — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:58:13 +0000

Tim in NC

I would agree we should let the scientists battle it out, but your last statement seems as baseless as those of the others you admonish.

“what we are doing IS not good for us as a species or the planet as a whole, no one can refute that”

Please tell me, what temperature should the earth be? And what temperature will provide optimal survivability for our species and/or the planet as a whole?

We, as a global community, fear change, and therefore label it as bad. It may well be that after an initial shock and adjustment, a warmer world may prove to be a far more bountiful place to live. Assuming the warming continues at all, that is.

By: Tim in NC

Tim in NC — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:07:35 +0000

I’ll bet not one person (myself included) is a scientist or as any formal training in climatology or any scientific fields related to the current topic. Whats worse is people who are ignorant about the factors and science that is involved in these complex globally-dynamic issues flock to the science (and scientists)whose opinions best suit their own biases.

Let the scientists battle it out, and let the research and data prove the points (which involves more than the circumference of either pole). Opinions can’t change the environment, and only knowledge and research will allow us to find out how to.

Bottom-line: what we are doing IS not good for us as a species or the planet as a whole, no one can refute that. Beyond that it is all still being studied.

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