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	<title>Comments on: eBay bans ivory sales; should the world follow?</title>
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		<title>By: dvd replication</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2008/10/21/ebay-bans-ivory-sales-should-the-world-follow/comment-page-1/#comment-337057</link>
		<dc:creator>dvd replication</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its a good decision by ebay for the protection and safety of wild life. I really appreciate them for their new move.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its a good decision by ebay for the protection and safety of wild life. I really appreciate them for their new move.</p>
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		<title>By: ludwig</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2008/10/21/ebay-bans-ivory-sales-should-the-world-follow/comment-page-1/#comment-336762</link>
		<dc:creator>ludwig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as ebay is concerned ---I would not be caught dead purchasing anything real or fake on thier site because there are just too many crooks  who like to boast on their reliability and honesty. Buy something--you may get it or you may not and if you get it--it will be inferior merchandise most often.

As far as the legal sale of Ivory is concerned---as long as the source is from elephants which have died naturally--that would be an ethical sale--we after all here in the US do the same with Mastodon Ivory--an extinct species that died out about 20-thousand years ago--and the sale of which goes to help support  impoverished native peoples of Alaska.

The CITES folks who wrote these laws intended well but they were unqualified to write these laws because they did not realise that the laws often have an effect opposite than intended. An example of this is in Florida where developers tear up the enviroment to build homes. In the process, they cut down trees upon which are growing Orchids and Bromeliads. The law says no one may save these plants from extinction by collecting them and growing them and then perhaps putting them back out into the wilds on other trees. Thus many species have become very scarce if not extinct because of the developers and the law.  Now consider that African violets are extinct in the wild but they have been saved because they are grown from nursery raised plants. The problem here is that no one is replenishing the wilds with what use to be there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as ebay is concerned &#8212;I would not be caught dead purchasing anything real or fake on thier site because there are just too many crooks  who like to boast on their reliability and honesty. Buy something&#8211;you may get it or you may not and if you get it&#8211;it will be inferior merchandise most often.</p>
<p>As far as the legal sale of Ivory is concerned&#8212;as long as the source is from elephants which have died naturally&#8211;that would be an ethical sale&#8211;we after all here in the US do the same with Mastodon Ivory&#8211;an extinct species that died out about 20-thousand years ago&#8211;and the sale of which goes to help support  impoverished native peoples of Alaska.</p>
<p>The CITES folks who wrote these laws intended well but they were unqualified to write these laws because they did not realise that the laws often have an effect opposite than intended. An example of this is in Florida where developers tear up the enviroment to build homes. In the process, they cut down trees upon which are growing Orchids and Bromeliads. The law says no one may save these plants from extinction by collecting them and growing them and then perhaps putting them back out into the wilds on other trees. Thus many species have become very scarce if not extinct because of the developers and the law.  Now consider that African violets are extinct in the wild but they have been saved because they are grown from nursery raised plants. The problem here is that no one is replenishing the wilds with what use to be there.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevis L. Kingston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevis L. Kingston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will this include Ivory from Indian Elephants, whose tusks are cut off for the safety of workers who use them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will this include Ivory from Indian Elephants, whose tusks are cut off for the safety of workers who use them?</p>
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		<title>By: david child</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2008/10/21/ebay-bans-ivory-sales-should-the-world-follow/comment-page-1/#comment-336724</link>
		<dc:creator>david child</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another ill-conceived and short-sighted decision by eBay, done SOLELY for the image, with NO thought to the substance of its decision.  As others have pointed out, this will only direct sales into other channels, while simultaneously ruining the lives of those who make their income on LEGAL ivory sales, including those who sell non-elephant ivory.  eBay claims that it can&#039;t authenticate which items on its site are legitimate ivory and which are not.  Guess what?  They can&#039;t do that with ANY item!!!  I guess that means they should ban ALL sales of ALL items, since authenticity cannot be determined by them!  eBay is all about image over substance (repeat ad nauseum).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another ill-conceived and short-sighted decision by eBay, done SOLELY for the image, with NO thought to the substance of its decision.  As others have pointed out, this will only direct sales into other channels, while simultaneously ruining the lives of those who make their income on LEGAL ivory sales, including those who sell non-elephant ivory.  eBay claims that it can&#8217;t authenticate which items on its site are legitimate ivory and which are not.  Guess what?  They can&#8217;t do that with ANY item!!!  I guess that means they should ban ALL sales of ALL items, since authenticity cannot be determined by them!  eBay is all about image over substance (repeat ad nauseum).</p>
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		<title>By: AgesTribalArts</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2008/10/21/ebay-bans-ivory-sales-should-the-world-follow/comment-page-1/#comment-336710</link>
		<dc:creator>AgesTribalArts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NEW EBAY FOSSIL IVORY BAN : According to news paper reports, EBay will now stop the sale of ALL ivory starting December 2008. Even my legal thousand year old {non Elephant} Fossil Ivory. We have a Fish &amp; Wildlife Cities permit for Fossil Ivory. Some countries still sell Elephant Ivory.  EBay has brought the Chinese and Japanese {with others} into the EBay market place and they have been selling Elephant Ivory Illegally on EBay. EBay&#039;s only solution seems to be banning &quot;ALL&quot; ivory of any age from EBay. We have been selling &quot;100% Legal&quot; Fossil Mammoth &amp; Walrus Ivory { NEVER elephant Ivory} for over 18 years, 8 years on EBay alone.  EBay as usual, has not even contacted the sellers in anyway about this business shattering decision that will cause us great financial loss. We are active animal rights supporters and offered our thousand years old {Non Elephant} Fossil Ivory as a alternative to the horrible slaughter of elephants for modern Ivory. We have worked very hard to comply with ALL the laws and pay the US government for a cities permit for Fossil ivory importing. As they say &quot; The Baby is being thrown out with the bath water&quot; ~ EBay is filled with fake or bootleg DVD’s, but you don’t see them banning ALL DVDs , do you ?   EBay has not even had the courtesy or respect to contact me as a Power Seller and respected seller of 8 years. We don&#039;t even know the details of this EBay Ivory Ban, but we do know we will be &quot;forced&quot; to comply with EBay rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NEW EBAY FOSSIL IVORY BAN : According to news paper reports, EBay will now stop the sale of ALL ivory starting December 2008. Even my legal thousand year old {non Elephant} Fossil Ivory. We have a Fish &amp; Wildlife Cities permit for Fossil Ivory. Some countries still sell Elephant Ivory.  EBay has brought the Chinese and Japanese {with others} into the EBay market place and they have been selling Elephant Ivory Illegally on EBay. EBay&#8217;s only solution seems to be banning &#8220;ALL&#8221; ivory of any age from EBay. We have been selling &#8220;100% Legal&#8221; Fossil Mammoth &amp; Walrus Ivory { NEVER elephant Ivory} for over 18 years, 8 years on EBay alone.  EBay as usual, has not even contacted the sellers in anyway about this business shattering decision that will cause us great financial loss. We are active animal rights supporters and offered our thousand years old {Non Elephant} Fossil Ivory as a alternative to the horrible slaughter of elephants for modern Ivory. We have worked very hard to comply with ALL the laws and pay the US government for a cities permit for Fossil ivory importing. As they say &#8221; The Baby is being thrown out with the bath water&#8221; ~ EBay is filled with fake or bootleg DVD’s, but you don’t see them banning ALL DVDs , do you ?   EBay has not even had the courtesy or respect to contact me as a Power Seller and respected seller of 8 years. We don&#8217;t even know the details of this EBay Ivory Ban, but we do know we will be &#8220;forced&#8221; to comply with EBay rules.</p>
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		<title>By: A Voice of Reason</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2008/10/21/ebay-bans-ivory-sales-should-the-world-follow/comment-page-1/#comment-336691</link>
		<dc:creator>A Voice of Reason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All banning will do is to drive the black market as the demand for ivory will not go down.  Then using the LAW OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND the price will go up causing poachers to shoot more.  The best way to protect Elephants is to allow the free trade in ivory to keep the price reasonable so that it is not cost effective for the poachers and the possibility of getting caught outweighs the rewards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All banning will do is to drive the black market as the demand for ivory will not go down.  Then using the LAW OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND the price will go up causing poachers to shoot more.  The best way to protect Elephants is to allow the free trade in ivory to keep the price reasonable so that it is not cost effective for the poachers and the possibility of getting caught outweighs the rewards.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Ornoy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2008/10/21/ebay-bans-ivory-sales-should-the-world-follow/comment-page-1/#comment-336668</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Ornoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three cheers for eBay and non profit groups such as International Fund for Animal Welfare for banning ivory online sales. eBay has shown real corporate leadership here. Obviously government-sanctioned sales of ivory as mentioned in the article would not take place on eBay so that\&#039;s a moot point So technically it should be government agents who collect ivory from dead elephants and poachers and use the profits to provide training and jobs for locals and protection for the elephants. All other ivory sales should be banned in line with eBay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three cheers for eBay and non profit groups such as International Fund for Animal Welfare for banning ivory online sales. eBay has shown real corporate leadership here. Obviously government-sanctioned sales of ivory as mentioned in the article would not take place on eBay so that\&#8217;s a moot point So technically it should be government agents who collect ivory from dead elephants and poachers and use the profits to provide training and jobs for locals and protection for the elephants. All other ivory sales should be banned in line with eBay.</p>
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		<title>By: Munashe Gumbonzvanda</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2008/10/21/ebay-bans-ivory-sales-should-the-world-follow/comment-page-1/#comment-336661</link>
		<dc:creator>Munashe Gumbonzvanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a great move for endangered wildlife everywhere. this move will make sure that a little less illegal trade takes place, by making it harder cto partake in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a great move for endangered wildlife everywhere. this move will make sure that a little less illegal trade takes place, by making it harder cto partake in it.</p>
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