Comments on: Sue world leaders $1 billion for global warming? http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2008/11/28/sue-world-leaders-1-billion-for-global-warming/ Global environmental challenges Wed, 16 Nov 2016 08:14:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: mattao.b http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2008/11/28/sue-world-leaders-1-billion-for-global-warming/comment-page-2/#comment-347911 Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:55:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=11410#comment-347911 I’m not sure how this guy is being taken so seriously when he uses language like “manslaughter”. I agree that something should be done, but I think he is going about it the wrong way.

The government can prevent prevent global warming using various techniques such as adding a Pigouvian Tax on industries that pollute the environment and contribute to climate change, but if Dan Bloom wants to sue someone it should not be world leaders for not imposing the correct restrictions, but instead the corporations that contribute to global warming. Why sue governments when they are not the ones causing the problem. there are other organizations such as http://www.claimer.org/howwill that are trying to do just that. they should combine their claims together into a large lawsuit, but not at governments, but at the corporations.

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By: Allen Marker http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2008/11/28/sue-world-leaders-1-billion-for-global-warming/comment-page-2/#comment-339641 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 13:27:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=11410#comment-339641 Will someone someday defend an unborn generation in court?The World Future Council, a group of 50 activists, politicians and thinkers from around the world, is focused on finding ways to prevent today’s actions from constraining tomorrow’s choices. The group just wrapped up a two-day symposium in Montreal at which more than 100 experts in international law explored ways to use legal tools, most of which are oriented toward doling out justice among those alive now, to avert what amount to crimes against the future.

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By: ellen jones http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2008/11/28/sue-world-leaders-1-billion-for-global-warming/comment-page-2/#comment-339640 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 13:26:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=11410#comment-339640 Climate changes are coming, yes.

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By: Danny Bloom http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2008/11/28/sue-world-leaders-1-billion-for-global-warming/comment-page-2/#comment-339206 Mon, 20 Apr 2009 03:51:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=11410#comment-339206 A veteran science report in France told me today: “Nice idea, but the message you deliver will, by that time, be 99 years out of date — you address the graduating class of 2099 as if they were facing the choices we face today. They won’t. On the cusp of the 22nd century, the globe will either be in Lovelock-type meltdown because we didn’t act soon and forcefully enough (or because it was already too late even in 2009, which is what Lovelock thinks); or the C02 levels will have stabilized and gone down because our wise or courageous political leaders did the right thing so that nine billion people could survive on Earth in harmony and peace…..Now, I ask you: which scenario do you think is more likely?” MY ANSWER: LOVELOCK WILL BE RIGHT. SIGH.

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By: Danny Bloom http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2008/11/28/sue-world-leaders-1-billion-for-global-warming/comment-page-2/#comment-339084 Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:27:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=11410#comment-339084 This quote by another reader here is apt: “It is interesting to note the the ice shelves have been in place for the last 10,000 years. That roughly marks the end of the last ice age. The rise of civilization was possible only because of the stable and warm climate conditions that have prevailed. These conditions allowed agriculture production to rise to a point where many people could now do other things with their hands besides hunting and foraging.

For better or worse we are at a crucial juncture for all life on Earth, not just humans. We have done a masterful job building civilization to this point with our hands. Maybe the next evolutionary step is to continue building civilization by using our brains too.

– Posted by Anubis”

My graduation speech to the class of 2099 seconds that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-wnrm2jE -E&feature=channel_page

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By: Danny Bloom http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2008/11/28/sue-world-leaders-1-billion-for-global-warming/comment-page-2/#comment-338978 Mon, 30 Mar 2009 01:27:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=11410#comment-338978 An update on this lawsuit. The lawsuit was not accepted by the ICC in the Hague, with the ICC saying that they do not accept such individual lawsuits or class action suits and advising me to go elsewhere. I decided to take this lawsuit therefore directly to the CoPO, that is the Court of Public Opinion, in every country of the world, and that is where the lawsuit now rests and will remain until justice is served. I am not going to “rest my case”. To the contrary, we are going to continue fighting for this lawsuit in the CoPO, and hope that the resulting publicity will galvanzie people and leaders into taking action against climate change ASAP. I rest my case, not!

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By: Danny http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2008/11/28/sue-world-leaders-1-billion-for-global-warming/comment-page-2/#comment-337466 Sun, 11 Jan 2009 03:39:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=11410#comment-337466 A detractor sent me this email and it is a good one, too: “It’s a publicity stunt nothing more. I despise fundamentalists whether they’re on the right or left. Clowns like this one hurt the environmental movement. He might even do a little research on the ICC — this is not a civil court nor do he have any standing — and the U.S., which is the world’s largest polluter, is not a signatory to the Rome treaty. You might try educating yourself on the details of the ICC first.”

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By: Danny Bloom http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2008/11/28/sue-world-leaders-1-billion-for-global-warming/comment-page-2/#comment-337279 Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:39:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=11410#comment-337279 Thank you, Jeff, for that advice. Will do.

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By: Jeff http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2008/11/28/sue-world-leaders-1-billion-for-global-warming/comment-page-2/#comment-337277 Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:21:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=11410#comment-337277 I would encourage you to refine your claims, refine your target plaintiffs, and do some more homework to increase your legal savvy. Be pragmatic, be realistic, be bold, & be innovative while following in the footsteps of others.

Environmentalists are legal trail blazers and you should examine their innovations. The Alien Tort Claims Act is a potent tool used by environmentalists. I would suggest an environmental lawsuit against the major polluters in Taiwan. Perhaps a Taiwan company owned by the KMT? A Politically Owned Enterprise (POEs) would definitely put some teeth in your campaign. A POE with any degree of business exposure to a US jurisdiction would be even better. Foriegn Soverign Immunities Act (FSIA) allows for the legal use of maritime liens to collect…imagine seizing a POE-owned ship sailing into a US harbor. Find a Taiwanese Valduz!

In addition, you should raise donations for your “legal defense fund”. Your IRS 501(c)(3) can engage in various types of litigation in the public interest and you can configure your litigation so the “nonprofit corporation” is the plaintiff or supplies money for the plaintiffs. It is not a law firm but retains a licensed attorney to litigate the case that is selected by your own Board of Directors. Do some research on the “human rights and civil rights organizations” under 501(c)(3) nonprofit organizations on the IRS website. Get savvy and you’ll be very effective! This area of law is full of potential angles to exploit and to make your foes pay up for their misdeeds!

Convert the misuse of an American military commission into a premier tool of environmentalist legal venues.
Get the US as the hegemonic prime mover in the world to enforce multilateral treaties and geopolitical strategy will have legal teeth. Try unilateral enforcement of the multilateral treaties? The British Navy used the right of belligerents under the Law of War to stop the slave trade on the High Seas. It was progressive for the era, so brainstorm how the Law of War could become your own tool of progressive enforcement.

Be persistent.

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By: Dan Bloom http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2008/11/28/sue-world-leaders-1-billion-for-global-warming/comment-page-2/#comment-337210 Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:31:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=11410#comment-337210 The Information Desk at the ICC wrote to me today: “Thank you for the communication that you sent to the International Criminal Court(ICC). Attached you’ll find a file on how to submit your claim to the ICC. With kind regards…”

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