Comments on: Day Three: And what of Obama? http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2009/12/09/day-three-and-what-of-obama/ Global environmental challenges Wed, 16 Nov 2016 08:14:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Aleksander http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2009/12/09/day-three-and-what-of-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-343657 Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:16:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=15078#comment-343657 Two points to consider when reading Dr. Suzuki’s comment.

1) Dr. Suzuki is using a decade-old report to make claims regarding Canada’s per-capita emissions
http://www.environmentalindicators.com/h tdocs/execsum.htm

2) When 0.5% of world’s population (Canada) generates 1.5% of world’s GDP and does it in the second-largest country on Earth you would expect that, per-capita, they have high energy consumption – they are productive.

Be aware – watch out for Dr. Suzuki’s shifty facts, ask for resources.

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By: SeaWa http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2009/12/09/day-three-and-what-of-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-343655 Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:39:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=15078#comment-343655 Limiting CO2 emissions in personal life is an easy concept for the wealthy. The working middle class, working poor, and unemployed cannot afford to invest in low emission transportation and green households. They cannot afford higher bills for heat, electricity, garbage, etc. They cannot pay for higher priced ‘green’ products.

Limiting CO2 emissions in industry, trade, and transportation (e.g. autos) should be the top priority without requiring individuals to shoulder the burden. At least early on.

Arguing that North America and other developed regions have created most of the pollution in the past is irrelevant if we want to move forward. The world has benefited from development borne from a thriving U.S. and Europe.

The past is the past, the future lays ahead. How should we limit our personal consumption, as well as industrial, trade related, and transportation emissions in the United States today? How can we best integrate these carbon free strategies with other sovereign countries and competing economies? The U.S. cannot succeed politically, economically, and therefore morally if it is trapped into paying off the economies of the developing world as a consequence of having been contributors of the past emissions. Other ‘bad guys’ would step up to the carbon production plate without much ethical consideration if we were to loose our economic and political power base to this issue.

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By: anthony3434 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2009/12/09/day-three-and-what-of-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-343653 Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:36:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=15078#comment-343653 I would ask President Obama to encourage a new era of research on climate change. I’d ask him to refrain from colluding so much with the global leaders of this world and renew the focus on America. I would ask him to begin with asking the global leaders to change their own personal behaviors before they impose their beliefs on us through taxation.

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By: Sc0tt http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2009/12/09/day-three-and-what-of-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-343652 Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:13:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=15078#comment-343652 @spockers
Seems like science to me, how would you explain these observations:

Temperatures this decade have been higher than any other decade on record, and one degree (F) higher than average temperatures in the 20th century.
Source: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/

Ocean temperatures worldwide this 2009 summer were hotter than ever previously recorded.
Source: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=gl obal&year=2009&month=8August=Get+Report

Stable sea ice in the Arctic melted to its lowest recorded levels this summer, declining more than 60% since the 1980s and 1990s.
Source: http://nsidc.org/news/press/20091005_min imumpr.html

East Antarctic ice sheet is losing mass.
Source: http://grace.jpl.nasa.gov/news/index.cfm  ?FuseAction=ShowNews&NewsID=33

Carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere for 2009 (387 parts per million) are the highest they have been in about 15 million years.
Source: http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends  /
Source: Tripati et al., 2009. Coupling of CO2 and Ice Sheet Stability Over Major Climate Transitions of the Last 20 Million Years. Science. Dec. 4. 2009.

Globally, 8.7 billion tons of carbon were emitted in 2008 from burning coal, oil and natural gas, a 41% increase from 1990.
Source: Le Quéré, L., et al., 2009. Trends in the sources and sinks of carbon dioxide. Nature Geoscience. Nov. 17. 2009.

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By: fred5407 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2009/12/09/day-three-and-what-of-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-343651 Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:12:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=15078#comment-343651 I have a different view as an engineer. I have been doing my best to reduce energy usage for the past 40+ years. The profit motive has been the hardest to work around. Making cars and trucks last longer reduces the energy and carbon dioxide generated in making new parts. Trading advertizing dollars for product reliability and longevity has not been done. Just putting scrubbers on coal plants will not get it done. We need to engineer solutions to global warming. We can’t save our way out of this problem. Reparations and throwing money at the problem are nonsense. So far we have too many problem generators and very few problem solvers.

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By: spockers http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2009/12/09/day-three-and-what-of-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-343648 Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:05:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=15078#comment-343648 It’s all politics and power, not science. Man-made climate change (can’t call it global warming anymore, in light of some inconvenient truths) is a myth, a fraud, a hoax engineered for political gain.

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By: Brahman http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2009/12/09/day-three-and-what-of-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-343645 Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:31:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=15078#comment-343645 Obama,-
Peace is war
US refuses to pay repairations for Globol warming damages
Praises Netanyahu actions.
Sends more troops to kill Afganistans
Continues killing of Iraqis
Any one who opposes US Hegonomy are terrorists
overturned an elected government in Hondurus
Conducts covert operations against countries in definace of UN charter obligations.

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