Comments on: MMS “cozy” with industry? Hardly http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2010/06/02/mms-cozy-with-industry-hardly/ Global environmental challenges Wed, 16 Nov 2016 08:14:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: moebadderman http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2010/06/02/mms-cozy-with-industry-hardly/comment-page-1/#comment-345306 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 14:59:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=17631#comment-345306 This is not about “group projects in school or college”. This is not about “the statistical norm”. This is not about “various clerks, file workers, and general office workers”, nor “ALL of the employees”, nor “failures in the system”. This is about a criminal enterprise about which we should all “KeepThinking”, including Hofmeister and his astroturf “Citizens” organisation.

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By: KeepThinking http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2010/06/02/mms-cozy-with-industry-hardly/comment-page-1/#comment-345304 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:26:26 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=17631#comment-345304 Now, hold on just a moment here, everybody. I’m no fan of oil companies or their leaders, but this fellow nevertheless makes a valuable point, one that we should all consider: to trash all members of the MMS as irresponsible, corrupt, and incompetent is not right. Anybody who has ever worked in a corporate or organizational setting – even people who have worked on group projects in school or college – know that out of any collection of people, you will inevitably have members who aren’t up to grade. There will be people who “cozy up” to the other side or just are too bloody lazy to do the job correctly. But are those people representative of the group? Not necessarily. Sure, there are entire groups out there who are more corrupt than correct, but those are not the statistical norm. So, while the leadership of an organization may be incompetent or certain unfortunately-placed members be corrupt, the vast majority of the rank and file are honest, hardworking people doing what they think is right.

Am I excusing BP for this mess, Shell for its spills, or Exxon for repainting Alaska? No, of course not. These companies committed major environmental crimes and must be held accountable. That BP is losing millions of dollars a day in cleanup and litigation costs is just; they should probably be losing more and, I’m certain, will when the court cases start rolling in earnest. Big oil has been much too cozy with certain persons in governmental positions. When any self-interested organization starts handing out major “campaign contributions,” attention should be given to the true intentions. No, oil companies need serious oversight. After all is said and done, they are in the business of handling hazardous materials. Maybe not as serious as nuclear waste, but when it’s spilled, it’s a significant problem.

I’d really like all of you to sit down for a moment and think before you start casting stones. Do you really believe, in your heart, that the various clerks, file workers, and general office workers of Lehman or Goldman were in on the whole scheme? Do you truly think that the workers at Enron knew what was going on? Of course not. Yet we vilify them along with the architects of the disasters. So, while we can certainly lay some blame with the MMS, can we truly blame ALL of the employees? We shouldn’t. For, while there were undoubtedly failures in the system and persons not doing all they should, it is entirely unfair and unjust to smear the blame across the whole of the organization. Painting with too broad a brush just leaves an inexcusable mess.

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By: AMW1.com http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2010/06/02/mms-cozy-with-industry-hardly/comment-page-1/#comment-345303 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 12:51:01 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=17631#comment-345303 John Hofmeister – If you never sat around a Washington table with the MMS to discuss issues then that might also explain the issue of lack of regulatory oversight.

The complaint is that you never had to sit around any table with the MMS to discuss issues because the oil industry itself ticked all the boxes – some of which had already been pencilled in by the MMS for “completion”.

There’s a difference between a close working relationship and a cosy relationship.

BP has now called in the former assistant to the famous oil man Dick Cheney to help with their PR. It’s called “keeping things in the family.”

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By: STORBURNcom11 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2010/06/02/mms-cozy-with-industry-hardly/comment-page-1/#comment-345299 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 03:10:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=17631#comment-345299 John should be the BP president. Maybe the leak would be plugged by now. We just launched a competitor to Facebook at http://storyburn.com

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By: edgyinchina http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2010/06/02/mms-cozy-with-industry-hardly/comment-page-1/#comment-345295 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 01:17:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=17631#comment-345295 Another puff piece written to make us all feel good….
When will we ever learn?

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By: HBC http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2010/06/02/mms-cozy-with-industry-hardly/comment-page-1/#comment-345294 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 01:06:42 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=17631#comment-345294 I hope the sex was worth it. Really, because everybody else got screwed and it wasn’t in a loving way.

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By: irradiatedmeat http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2010/06/02/mms-cozy-with-industry-hardly/comment-page-1/#comment-345293 Wed, 02 Jun 2010 23:01:54 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=17631#comment-345293 Did Shell Oil do any business in the Niger Delta?

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By: cawasji http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2010/06/02/mms-cozy-with-industry-hardly/comment-page-1/#comment-345292 Wed, 02 Jun 2010 22:47:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=17631#comment-345292 methinks the emperor has new clothes!

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