Comments on: China’s Trina Solar launches $800 million expansion, as SpectraWatt sputters http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2010/12/28/chinas-trina-solar-launches-800-million-expansion-as-spectrawatt-sputters/ Global environmental challenges Wed, 16 Nov 2016 08:14:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: sfortuna http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2010/12/28/chinas-trina-solar-launches-800-million-expansion-as-spectrawatt-sputters/comment-page-1/#comment-347601 Tue, 04 Jan 2011 22:34:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=19388#comment-347601 Let’s put a 25% import duty on all Chinese technology that competes with US manufacturing – across the board. Every time they rip off a patent or reverse engineer a US product, hit ’em hard and level the playing field. This won’t completely make us competitive, since China manipulates their currency something fierce, but would put a big dent in our trade imbalance.

That said, many of you are quoting renewable energy purchase costs that are based on 2008 numbers. As of January 2011, I can put in AMERICAN MADE 25kW wind turbine today for under $100,000 INSTALLED and a 25kW US mfg solar plant for $150,000. After that, all the energy they generate for the next 25+ years is FREE. After ITC, depreciation and avoided energy costs at .15 cents/kWH, I have a 7 year payback WITHOUT SRECS. Add 8% lease/finance cost and SREC capitalization of $200 per MW hour, I break even year 3.

Sure you pay more up front, but how much is your $5,000 generator going to cost to generate the same energy over 25 years, especially when diesel hits $5 per gallon? Also, how much medical expense are you going to incur when your kids breathe diesel exhaust all their lives? America, the land of the impatient, where instant gratification takes too long. This short sighted attitude costs as much as a lack of bipartisanship and the lobbying of the highly subsidized fossil fuel industry. Use the import tariffs for R&D grants and to balance our budget. Screw NAFTA and the WTO, time for a good old fashioned trade war.

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By: Spasmodic1 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2010/12/28/chinas-trina-solar-launches-800-million-expansion-as-spectrawatt-sputters/comment-page-1/#comment-347528 Thu, 30 Dec 2010 05:56:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=19388#comment-347528 Everyone needs to stop subsidizing their industries. We need to stop providing ours with grant money and we need to tariff the low cost Chinese goods as they are almost always subsidized. This practice will hurt our manufacturing sector while building a liquidity bubble in China (that is already pretty large) which upon bursting will hurt the global economy.

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By: Radical_1 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2010/12/28/chinas-trina-solar-launches-800-million-expansion-as-spectrawatt-sputters/comment-page-1/#comment-347522 Thu, 30 Dec 2010 02:19:23 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=19388#comment-347522 And who’s the 3rd World Country???

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By: jumbo23 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2010/12/28/chinas-trina-solar-launches-800-million-expansion-as-spectrawatt-sputters/comment-page-1/#comment-347513 Thu, 30 Dec 2010 00:14:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=19388#comment-347513 It reminds the civilisation wars b/w Romans & Assyrians, we chose Romans. Now USA capitalism has to face adjustment, high unemployment rate, homeless rate, China’s concerted state efforts in crushing all tariff barriers & expand at others’ cost. Korean’s transfer of Japanese technology to Chinese co. these are the sorts of problems challenging the foundation whether a bunch of self-interested businessman in Congress would actually need to change their ball game or the system of governing has to be replaced. No other alternatives.

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By: THeRmoNukE http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2010/12/28/chinas-trina-solar-launches-800-million-expansion-as-spectrawatt-sputters/comment-page-1/#comment-347502 Wed, 29 Dec 2010 21:26:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=19388#comment-347502 Trooth – In New Jersey, you can double your money on a solar farm in 8 years, and the warranty is good for 25 years. Solar is plenty feasible. Uranium is exhibiting the same “peak” conditions that oil is, so it would be foolish to increase nuclear power generation on a large scale with uranium harder to come by, while silicon remains plentiful.

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By: OCTheo http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2010/12/28/chinas-trina-solar-launches-800-million-expansion-as-spectrawatt-sputters/comment-page-1/#comment-347499 Wed, 29 Dec 2010 20:45:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=19388#comment-347499 Wrong! Wrong!! Wrong to all these.

We need solar energy to save the future of our planet. Chinese use their money to produce things that benefit the future. America borrows money to produce weapons that destroy the present and endanger the future.

When America stops building weapons to fight invented and imaginary enemies, then it can compete again among world manufacturers like China, Japan and Germany. Billions of Dollars are wasted everyday in weapon manufacturing, only to be blown up. We need to make things that build the future, not destroy it, otherwise America is DOOMED!

If China can subsidize solar companies, so can Washington. Instead we subsidize Monsanto and Military Industrial Complex.

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By: Trooth http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2010/12/28/chinas-trina-solar-launches-800-million-expansion-as-spectrawatt-sputters/comment-page-1/#comment-347498 Wed, 29 Dec 2010 20:39:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=19388#comment-347498 Solar isn’t feasable yet nuclear is. We need to stop feeding money to pet projects and start building nuclear plants across the US. Our allies and enemies alike are all going nuclear. No one really cares about the moronic anti-nuclear power crowd anymore. Nuclear plants don’t frighten us.

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By: THeRmoNukE http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2010/12/28/chinas-trina-solar-launches-800-million-expansion-as-spectrawatt-sputters/comment-page-1/#comment-347493 Wed, 29 Dec 2010 20:03:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=19388#comment-347493 Buy American, buy quality, buy something with a real warranty. SolarWorld for PV applications, Solyndra for commercial rooftop applications. Only the greedy fight over saving 1 year’s ROI on a 25yr system by going Chinese instead of American. It will come back to bite.

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By: THeRmoNukE http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2010/12/28/chinas-trina-solar-launches-800-million-expansion-as-spectrawatt-sputters/comment-page-1/#comment-347492 Wed, 29 Dec 2010 20:02:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=19388#comment-347492 Companies like Trina and Yingli get land granted to them by the provinces, and have dormitories provided gratis for employees. These are massive overhead costs that US companies are forced to absorb. I work in the solar industry, and the delta on pricing from US vs overseas is obscene.

I hope they find out )know they will) that Cadmium levels are grossly under-reported in these panels, and all the projects end up being returned – only to then find out that returning MWs worth of solar to China will not be possible.

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By: russdogbinladen http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/2010/12/28/chinas-trina-solar-launches-800-million-expansion-as-spectrawatt-sputters/comment-page-1/#comment-347488 Wed, 29 Dec 2010 19:11:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/environment/?p=19388#comment-347488 Score card;
China: won
USA: Zero
gotta love that dim-sum

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