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from UK News:
Are you losing faith in climate science?
While attending a meeting of prominent climate sceptics during the U.N. Climate Conference in Copenhagen in December (an anti-COP15, if you will), I listened to each of the speakers put forward their theory on why conventional evidence on the primary causes of climate change should be dismissed as, for lack of a better phrase, complete hokum.
Among their denunciations of widely-accepted truths regarding global warming, greenhouse gases, melting glaciers and rising sea levels was the assertion that a change in attitude was afoot; the public may have been duped into believing the mainstream scientific assessment of climate change, but not for long.
There was something in the air, the sceptics said, and soon people would begin to question their trust in the majority view.
I’m no scientist and am in no position to comment on the validity of any of the evidence on show; as journalists we were there to make sure both sides of the argument were being heard. This group of climate outcasts were in every sense on the fringes of COP15, but after a series of controversies in recent weeks it seems they were right about one thing at least -- the public conviction about the threat of climate change is slipping.
Well, it is in Britain anyway. An Ipsos Mori poll of over 1,000 UK adults found that the proportion of people who believe climate change is definitely a reality dropped from 44% to 31% in the past year.
Meanwhile, 31% said the threat was exaggerated, up 50% on last year – worrying statistics for the government and charities trying to convince the public to change its behaviour and to accept higher priced energy and goods as a small price to pay for saving the planet.
Why the sudden drop off? The poll follows weeks of suggestions that mainstream climatologists have, in the past, manipulated data and that an influential study by the U.N.’s main climate science body contains inaccurate information.
Carbon trading and a new climate deal
(Updates with comments from Karen Alderman Harbert)
A key component of a prospective climate deal coming into Copenhagen has been the targets for cuts in greenhouse gas emissions.
Targets would help put a “price” on carbon emissions that could then be bought and sold under a cap and trade scheme. (Click here for a related article.)
Proponents of the potentially lucrative market say it provides clear incentives to reach targets or even overshoot them, while opponents say the system would give big polluters a way around any targets.
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Packing while Copenhagen burns
The talks were supposed to be over, “family photo” taken, and slaps on the back given all round.
So all the 193 countries and many RINGOS, BINGOS, YOUNGOS, banks and others who had set up temporary Copenhagen offices had been told to have them packed up by Friday evening.
The rest of the plan has fallen apart, with world leaders crammed into conference rooms desperately trying to salvage something from two weeks of fruitless talks.
But the packing at least is still going according to schedule, with everything from suitcases to floorboards being rolled out as anxious journalists and harried delegates look on.
At such a critical point in the negotiations, you would expect the Bella Center to be overflowing. Non-governmental organizations were all but banished earlier in the week just as the high-level talks were about to start, and now the office-space for delegates resembles a ghost town.
If the meetings go on past Friday, as the United Nations has apparently suggested to some delegates, the already gloomy negotiating teams may be meeting in stripped down rooms that will hardly add to their cheer.
Shouldn’t the title read “Packing while the World burns”?
from Mario Di Simine:
At COP15, the waiting is now the hardest part
You go for walks, maybe stretch out on an open couch, perhaps stand in long lines for a luke-warm bite to eat. You make numerous trips to the vending machines, munch on biscuits, chat with colleagues. Life in the fast lane of the COP15 Climate Conference in Copenhagen has slowed down to a crawl, and the waiting is most certainly the hardest part.
On the final day of the conference, the media -- and everyone else -- is looking forward to an outcome, any outcome of a two-week marathon that was supposed to lead to cuts in greenhouse gas emisions and a 2010 deadline for a legally binding treaty.
The world leaders gathered here and their negotiators are still working on the cuts, but that deadline is now out in the cold. What kind of deal will finally emerge? No one here, not the media at least, has an answer to that yet.
In the meantime, we work the phones, we watch twitter chatter, we hope for word and the prospect of finally putting this behind us.
In the Bella Center, site of the two-week session, a quieter tone has set in.
It's quite the contrast to the earlier days when NGOs and environmental activists made their presence known with staged protests, costume stunts and undoubtedly the most popular event during the proceedings: the awarding of the Fossil of the Day, given to the country that did the least to help along the talks (or the most to hamper them). The grand winner was Canada, but we all knew that was coming after a near unbroken string of "victories" during the two weeks.
As I have been saying for some time now, the redistribution of mass ” corroborated by Al Gore”, could cause the planet to shift in its rotation.
The boxing day tsunami caused the planet to shift its rotation. I believe a quarter of an inch.
NASA landed a probe on an asteroid, which had irregular rotation and the gravity fluctuated and was measured by the probe on landing.
Gravity fluctuations would explain the dinosaur extinction, and why Mammoths died with food in their mouths!
The strange spectacle of too many heads of government
There are around 120 heads of government at the Copenhagen climate talks, so many that it’s hard to keep track of the exact number.
Their presence has been trumpeted as a sign of the world’s commitment to tackling climate change. But in return for showing up, they all want a chance to address the conference – and by extension the world.
To fit all the dignitaries in, organizers have slots limited to five short minutes, which would probably be barely enough to cover their introduction back home.
Even so, the presentations are scheduled to go on long past midnight, and have already been running very late – because of course no one can interrupt or turn off the microphone of a head of state. Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez managed to hold out for 25 minutes.
Meanwhile talks on agreeing the text of a deal have only just got down to work.
So the two live feeds into our media centre televisions, from the conference centre, are now offering up a strange spectacle.
On one screen there is a steady stream of heads of state, decked out in formal attire from every corner of the world, warning of floods, typhoons, desertification and drought, the urgency of the threat to our world and the need to protect our children.
While I realize speeches can be tedious, it would be enormously helpful if you could report what the heads of state actually said. For example, speech transcripts would be quite useful. It’s not too much to ask, even if the speeches “blur into one another.”
We actually do care what leaders say – it’s the information we need to hold them accountable.
Auxiliary verbs at 10pm and the scarcest resource – sleep
The issues are global and urgent, but the bureaucracy can sometimes be mind-bogglingly slow and petty.
After a day of stalled talks, the 193 nations at UN-led climate talks finally met for a plenary to discuss one of the main drafts floating around the summit, just two days (and two hours) from the deadline for a deal.
First on the agenda – auxiliary verbs. There was a discussion of should vs shall, before an appeal from the chair.
“I would ask you to consider the most scarce resource in this room – sleep”
Her request was applauded, but the talks anyway soon plunged into a discussion of clauses and sub-clauses.
An Indian delegate directed others in the room to turn to page six, paragraph 23, addendum 5. The Brazilians wanted to add “voluntary” after one phrase.
Eventually the meeting was steered back to the bigger picture. The negotiators wanted to know where the wider talks, and the draft were going.
Can you trust the science?
Today we pose the question to our virtual panel of experts, “How far can we trust the science of climate change?”
Join the debate and leave your comments below.
Bjorn Lomborg, statistician and author of “The Skeptical Environmentalist”:
The vast majority of climate scientists tell us that increases in carbon dioxide cause higher temperatures over time. We know that this will mean changes in rainfall, melting of snow and ice, a rise in sea level, and other impacts on plants, wildlife, and humans.
There is still meaningful and important work going on looking at the range of outcomes that we should expect–it is wrong to suggest that “all of the science is in”– but I think it is vital to emphasize the consensus on the most important scientific questions.
@iborrow
No need to go to Mars. Just look at Venus. Why is Venus warmer than Mercury?
from UK News:
Clashes and queues raise temperature in Copenhagen
With the clock ticking for world leaders to clinch a climate deal in Copenhagen, the last place you want to be is stuck at the back of a long queue.
But for thousands of delegates meeting in the Danish capital, that is exactly where they have spent endless hours this week.
They stood in the cold, braving the odd snow flurry, for hour after hour, waiting to be allowed into the conference centre on the edge of town where 193 countries are trying to thrash out a new deal on climate change.
Organisers said more than 45,000 people descended on a venue with a capacity for about 15,000.
Processing all those delegates, journalists and members of environmental groups took much longer than expected.
Some said they had waited for up to nine hours on Monday and Tuesday. There were reports of people in tears and heated arguments with officials.
Are the Copenhagen climate talks failing?
In the last few days it has seemed like the only thing everyone can agree on in Copenhagen is that time is running out.
The heads of state start arriving today and descend in full force on Thursday.
Negotiators say they don’t want their leaders arguing over the placement of a comma or a set of brackets, and so everything needs to be tied up by Friday morning.
That leaves just over two days, and more than 190 countries gathered in the conference hall can’t even settle on a draft text to argue over.
The parties seem to have divided into three factions – although officially it is rich vs poor, as developing countries say they are united.
In reality, developed countries responsible for most emissions currently in the atmosphere are facing down the major developing countries expected to produce the majority of emissions in coming decades.
Both want the other group to sign up for more ambitious targets – whether emissions cuts, funding for the poor, or verification of what they will do to curb production of greenhouse gasses in future.
from Mario Di Simine:
Stunts, pins and pamphlets: Getting the word out at COP15
When you're one of thousands of people trying to get a message out at once, you need an edge.
In Copenhagen during the COP15 conference a plethora of nongovernmental organizations, environmental groups, country delegations and even businesses have gone to sometimes unusual lengths to get their word out, and hopefully into the newspapers, or onto the Web and television.
The more adventurous -- and humorous -- the better your chance of catching a journalist's eye. Some have had members dressed up as aliens, holding up placards reading "Take me to your 2015 peak year". The aliens, brought to us by the environmental action group Avaaz, have been a presence at the Bella Center for pretty much the whole conference to date.
Other dress-up stunts have included angels urging delegates not to kill the Kyoto Protocol, and Oxfam's dancing polar bears with the line: Humans need a good deal.
Those who don't have costumes have resorted to other means. A popular tactic this week has been lapel pins and cufflinks. Countdowntocopenhagen.org has passed out little black, red and white pins in the shape of a stopwatch with 10 minutes left on the clock. Its catchphrase? "Time for Climate Justice".
The same group also had two "policewomen" greeting delegates at the entrance to the media center, saying: "Climate Crime Scene: Can You Help?"
The United Nations Foundation has also gotten the word out, literally. Its group Itsgettingpersonal.org came around to the media and handed us all decks of cards. Each card is emblazoned with "Stop Gambling With Our Future, Deal With Climate Change!" on one side and a quote on the face reflecting what people around the world will miss if climate change goes unchecked. One example is the eight of diamonds, which has a picture of a bunch of grapes over the quote, "I will miss French wine." The six of clubs reads: "Going, going, gone. The Maldives are putting cash away to buy a new home, because they'll be sunk soon."







