Reuters correspondent James B. Kelleher sat down with Angus MacKenzie (pictured left, courtesy of Motor Trend), the editor of Motor Trend magazine, at the Detroit auto show to discuss topics ranging from oil prices to car designs. A transcript follows.
Reuters: A consensus seems to have emerged that high oil prices have permanently changed purchasing habits, driving consumers toward more fuel-efficient vehicles. But we’ve seen energy prices plummet recently to their lowest point in 18 months. Does that change anything?
MacKenzie: I think fuel efficiency will continue to be an issue. But what you’ve got to remember is that that in global terms, gas prices in the United States are still among the lowest in the developed world. And once consumers get used to gas at $3 a gallon, I think you’ll see they’ll start to trend back toward the vehicles they’re comfortable with. For America, it’s a big country with a lot of room, they like bigger, roomier vehicles. They’d like a little more gas mileage, but will we see lots of small cars zipping around the streets? No, I don’t think so.
Reuters: So is the flight away from SUVs a temporary phenomenon?
MacKenzie: No. I think there is a change in market tastes for SUVs, definitely. Fuel prices will drive some of it. But it’s also a fashion statement and what we’re seeing is people moving to things like crossover vehicles, which are a bit less like a truck and a bit more like a car but not quite a station wagon. And there’s a fashion element to it. These crossovers are seen to be a bit cooler, a bit more versatile, less of a truck. This is still a country with an active lifestyle that involves automobiles and American families need vehicles with room, whether they’re going up to the lake, going hunting or whatever, and that lifestyle’s not about to change.
Reuters: You mention the popularity of crossovers. Ford and GM really dominated the SUV market. The crossover market looks like it’s going to be a lot more competitive.
MacKenzie: Absolutely. There are no market niches that are off limits to any automaker. What you’ve seen happen in the American market over the last five to 10 years is that it’s become globalized. Of course, that’s causing pain for the Detroit automakers in that they now have to right-size their business to reflect this globalized market. The traditional SUVs were kind of an American anomaly because they were based on pickup truck platforms and the full-size pickup truck is a uniquely American vehicle. Crossovers give you that versatility, that practicality, that flexibility; a bit better on the gas; a bit more stylish too.
Reuters: OK, let’s talk style. How about Ford and the redesigned Focus and 500? Do you like what you see?
MacKenzie: What Ford is doing is bringing some strong family resemblance to those vehicles. This is not the be-all and end-all for Ford Motor Co. (CEO) Alan Mulally’s (pictured right) absolutely betting the farm, having mortgaged the company to the hilt. Ford desperately needs product. Those two cars are stopgaps. The more interesting cars to look at will be the concept cars, the Ford Interceptor and the Lincoln MKR. They give a guide to some of the direction Ford’s going … Absolutely stopgap. The Focus is a facelift of a car that has been superseded by a whole new car in Europe. So it’s a last-generation small car in terms of its technology, refinement, chassis design. There’s a good car waiting to get out of the 500. The original complaint with the 500 was that the styling was a bit too generic European. And so the new grille on the front of the 500 is meant to give it some of that appeal of the Fusion. The guy who’s now running Ford and Lincoln’s design for North America is a guy called Peter Horbury. He’s a Brit who made his reputation reinventing the looks of Volvos. So if you remember what Volvos looked like in the ’70s and ’80s, basically bricks on wheels, and consider what they look like now, that’s down to Peter, who was able to synthesize of the essence of Swedishness and translate that into design. He’s now tasked with the same job here in North America for Ford products. And I think you’ll see Ford cars become much more American, much more confident in their styling, not trying to be European cars, not trying to be Japanese cars.
Reuters: How about the Malibu?
MacKenzie: It’s proof that GM design is back from the dead. The previous Malibu was quite possibly the worst car to come out of the company that invented automotive design. It was bland, boring, dull, there was no compelling reason to have one in your driveway. This is not just about transportation anymore. You can get any car to get you from A to B. They’re generally all about the same degree of reliability. So there’s got to be a little bit of driveway theater in it, a bit of entertainment. T
his is what Detroit understood in the 1950s. The new Malibu (pictured right) is a very clean, contemporary, well-designed, nice-looking car. It’s got come class to it, some tailoring to it. GM invented design and it’s the kind of car that GM should have done years ago.
Reuters: But is design really the issue? Aren’t there still negative perceptions around engineering?
MacKenzie: Absolutely there are and that’s why design is just part of the story. You’ve got to get the customers in the door, so design helps that. But there were some refinement issues. GM powertrains were not perceived as being as refined or efficient as the Japanese. And also GM has also tended to package the model mix so that you couldn’t, for instance, buy a top-specification Malibu with a four-cylinder engine. Now you will be able to. They’ve still got some work to do, but GM’s having to deal with so many different things. This car is very much a positive step forward. They’re thinking more like the Japanese.
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