i want to relate here some critical information about
the possible dangers posed by this Evangelical Ideology
against all humanity,
again from (www.crusadewatch.org):

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Almost all non-fundamentalist Christians and non-Christians identify missionary activity and Evangelism as an activity detrimental to a healthy society and spiritual growth.
Here are the most important reasons cited.

= Evangelism is religious intolerance
Evangelism is an act of religious intolerance.

= Evangelism is Satanism
Some great thinkers consider the practice of Evangelism equivalent to Satanism.

= Evangelism is Christian Fascism
“Christian fascism” or “Cristo-fascism” as synonymous with a worldview and political philosophy which are both fundamentalist Christian and fascist in nature

= Evangelism is a commercial empire
Many prominent Christians feel that Western Evangelism is a commercial empire just like any other business.
The evangelicals exploit people’s soft corner for religion and buy into their over-priced and often useless products.
Examples are Pat Robertson’s and Benny Hinn’s businesses.

= Casteism in Indian Christianity
Christianity is promoted as liberation theology with reference to castes in India.
Contrarily Church is the biggest promoter or casteism where the lines are clearly drawn between the castes.
Among Hindus the burial ground is same whereas among Christians even the burial grounds are demarked by caste.

= Deceptive Rhetoric of Moral Values
Most of the missionaries and Christian groups claim that Christianity and white race have the highest moral values whereas all other religions and cultures are corrupt

= Evangelism is revengeful act of Sex abuse victims
Sex abuse victims tend to become abusers themselves and, if sexually abused. Research has shown that religious fundamentalists are more likely to come from families where sexual abuse has occurred. We know about the widespread abuse by Catholic priests. Sixty percent (60%) of Evangelical pastors, most of whom are married, have a problem with pornography

= Christianity promotes Racism
Racism is rooted in the founding Christian belief that all non-Christians were servants/soldiers of Satan, the relentless and cunning enemy of the Christian god and all morality (1 Cor. 10:20-21, Gal. 4:8-9, John 8:44 for examples).
Christians considered pagans who converted to be morally cleansed and purified. Christians called pagans and Jews who rejected conversion obstinate, atheists, and an infection in the world, and treated them as a constant threat to Christian purity.

= Church Fundamentalism is against Science
USA, which produced the world’s top inventions and scientists is under siege due to Christian fundamentalism. These fundamentalists are opposed to scientific development because most of the scientific findings contradict Bible.
Example: Bible states that Sun rotates around Earth and Earth is flat. Galileo who questioned this theory was put under house arrest and denied medical services he request.

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== nowhere in Bible have i read anything about “Earth being flat” or “Sun rotating around Earth.”
so perhaps these may have been some Evangelical Scholars’ wrongful interpretations and/or additions
to Biblical verses in those days.
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American Christian fundamentalists are against research and science on Evolution as they believe that Adam & Eve were created much recently, just on the 6th day of the creation.

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== there may be some other “much deeper reasons” in addition to these ones, as i tried to indicate in many writings above, behind their Anti Evolutionary tirade. (June 17, 3:58)
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= Witchcraft, exorcism and Child abuse
Many evangelical churches are known to promote irrational and uncivillized acts such as witchcraft and exorcism which often involve child abuse.
In Europe and Africa such fundamentalist churches are growing exponentially

= Evangelism is a Pseudo-Religious activity
The pseudo-religionist (evangelical), loves his theory above everything else. It is his baby. He raises it up, applauds it, and makes it the standard by which everything else should be measured or interpreted.
It is his idol. He tries to save it from refutation at all costs.

= Missions is Hate Crime
Increasingly world is accepting evangelical missions as an expression of hate crime.

= Corrupted and evil expression of Christianity
Most of the true Christian denomonations are not involved in missions and evangelism. They strongly argue that missions is the corrupted and evil expression of true Christianity.

= Evangelism is Religious Terrorism
What is religious terrorism? Religious terrorists seek to use violence to further what they see as divinely commanded purposes, often targeting broad categories of foes in an attempt to bring about sweeping changes.

= Warfare not a spiritual experience
“Evangelism is a warfare, it is not a spiritual experience” is what evangelicals openly admit.
Most of their literature talks about ‘Winning souls and counting numbers, strategies etc..’
In their planning they even use the military terminology such as ‘blasting, bombarding, targets under control, targeted areas, preparing the warriors…’
Many true Christians call it ‘Bastardization of Christianity’.

= Evangelism is a tool for terrorism
“Either convert and fight against India or DIE” is the message echoing across the 7 states (called 7 sisters) of North-east India. Many articles indicating the same are listed in this section.

= Clash of Civilization
Evangelism/Proselytism is due to the fundamentally an expression of clash of civilization. Since time immemorial western civilization has been trying to convert or annihilate whoever is different from them. The core principle is ‘whoever is not like us is disposable’.

= Evangelism is a tool for territorial expansion
Jomo Kenyatta, Kenya’s first elected Prime Minister (1963-1964) and President (1964-1978) said: “When the missionaries arrived, the Africans had the land and the missionaries had the Bible. They taught us to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible.”

= Churches are against population control
Evangelism produces more Christians.
Church is a strong opponent of any form of Birth control which produced many orphans and malnutritioned children.

= Religious Conversion plays havoc in Women’s lives
In Christianity a women is inferior to man. Many women who enjoyed complete freedom and respect in their native religion become second class members in their own homes and family.

In 1828, a British clergyman boasted, “Whenever the missionary places his standards among the savage tribes, their dependence on the Colony is increased and every convert becomes the friend of Government.”

= Evangelism causes Civil Wars
Every country in the world is facing an internal war i.e., Fundamentalist Christians vs. others.
This is not the case with other religious or ethnic groups. The prime reason is intolerance.
A fundamentalist evangelical Christian cannot accept or respect anything non-christian and expresses his intolerance in some form or other. Many articles including some prominent ones written by rationalists are presented in this section.

= Evangelism: A Political game for hegemony
Western Church was never a religious or spiritual organization. Though it may start or sound as one but the ultimate motive is power and control of Governments..
Vijay Prasad in Eastward Evangelical Soldiers identifies American Evangelism as US foreign policy for global hegemony.

= Religious Conversion: Crime against Humanity
Religious conversion is threatening individuals, families, communities and the nations. Coercive evangelical religious conversion of Eastern religions contains a threat to spiritual tradition and the freedom of choice. If carried unchecked, coercive religious conversion would threaten the very existence of many Asian nations as a nation. Read Coercive Religious Conversion: A Crime against Humanity

= Evangelism develops anti-social syndrome
According to a famous christian psychriatist (name withheld) “Some Christians are actually worse off after being “saved” than before. At least before they were “saved,” they had a natural respect for, or fear of, ultimate justice, an inborn sense that somehow we all reap what we sow. After being “saved,” that’s gone for the insincere “Christian.”
For him or her, belief in Jesus amounts to a
“get-out-of-Hell-free” card, a sort of spiritual “diplomatic immunity.” And because the natural and necessary fear of consequences has been unwisely removed from his life, he falls that much more easily to the temptations of his lower nature. ”

= Crusades is the act of an addicted
Liberal Christians call Christian fundamentalism, an addiction similar to gambling and alcoholism.
Acclaimed author Carolyn Baker in article The religious right: Pushing a deadly addiction explores the addictive features of Evangelism which ultimately result not in spiritual well being but the worst spiritual abuse.

= Promotes Christian Fanaticism
Promotes hatred, wars and Genocide
Many evangelical leaders initiated and promoted war against heathen so that the field is open to harvest the souls. Many of the evangelical leaders and missionaries are War Criminals.

= Imperialism: Destroy the fundamental ideals
Time and again world’s renowned scholars have clearly proved evangelism as an imperialistic activity. But because they operate in the spiritual realm, they continue to enjoy a fuzzy kind of permission to conduct a kind of business that is largely impossible in other less ethereal spheres of life.

(www.crusadewatch.org)
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as i may have already tried to indicate in many
critical writings above,
there may certainly be a strong relation/connection with this fanatic “anti-evolutionary” Evangelical movement (which started in the beginning of 1900s essentially
in US) and its fanatic worldwide Evangelical agenda
based on this pseudo-scientific & pseudo-religious tirades.
i want to expose here again this Evangelical Agenda
a little bit further, in the essence, as follows:
after totally nullifying Evolutionary Creation idea in the minds of majority of believers with their
pseudo-scientific biased/ignorant worldwide propaganda, they may then try to proclaim, worldwide, that:
all human beings have been created by God, with His own hands,

separately,
instantly,
immune from all past and future evolution,
just like Him,

in the perfect physical Image of Him,

and so Jesus will come back again very soon
as a perfect God Incarnate!! king into these perfect Godlike!! humans, in these apocalyptic end times,
and then all the world will be united as one nation under this Evangelical Agenda and their
pseudo-Scientific & pseudo-Religious Doctrine.

in this regard, here i want to relate some critical information about the possible Evangelical –Apocalyptic & Messianic– hidden agenda behind USA’s War on Terror activities in the Middle East,
from (www.crusadewatch.org):

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“They are proselytizing not on behalf of the Constitution of the United States . . .
but rather on behalf of some sort of fanatical view of end times.
And they are using our army to affect that.”?
-Former Ambassador Joseph Wilson-

Last August the watchdog group, Military Religious Freedom Foundation, foiled a Pentagon plan that would have allowed the shipment of “freedom packages” to soldiers and Marines in Iraq.
The parcels were put together by the fundamentalist Christian ministry, Straight Up, and contained Bibles, proselytizing tracts in English and Arabic,
and the apocalyptic “Left Behind” computer game, in which Christian Tribulation forces convert or kill infidels— nonbelievers, Muslims and Jews.

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== as i may have already quoted above from a prominent Evangelical pastor,
according to this Evangelical ideology:
“anyone who does not accept that Jesus came to earth in flesh as a God Incarnate!! messenger
must be under the influence of Anti Christ,”
and so they may have two options –according to them– in these apocalyptic end times:
either immediately convert, or instantly die!
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On May 1 the Senate approved the promotion of Brigadier General Robert L. Caslen Jr. to Major General.
Currently the commandant of cadets at West Point, he will become the commander of the 25th Infantry Division.
He is also president of the stridently fundamentalist Officer’s Christian Fellowship, whose vision is a “spiritually transformed military, with ambassadors for Christ in uniform, empowered by the Holy Spirit”

General Caslen was promoted despite the Defense Department’s recommended disciplinary action against him and several other senior military leaders because they had “improperly endorsed and participated with a nonfederal entity while in uniform” by participating in a promotional video for the Campus Crusade For Christ’s Christian Embassy, an evangelical organization that ministers to Beltway politicians and sponsors weekly Bible studies at the Pentagon.

According to the DoD Inspector General’s report, one of the generals involved “asserted that Christian Embassy was treated as an instrumentality of the Pentagon Chaplain’s office for over 25 years,
and had effectively become a ‘quasi federal entity.’”
Arguably, he believed his participation in the video was in the line of duty.

Considering both the Pentagon’s evangelical proclivity and a 2006 Pew survey which found that of the major religious groups in America, evangelicals have the most negative views of Islam and Muslims,
the U.S. sniper who was recently caught using the Quran for target practice in the Baghdad neighborhood of Radhwaniya might be excused for thinking the book was a legitimate target upon which to perfect his craft . . .
excused for thinking he was acting in the line duty.

And is it any wonder that with evangelicals and fundamentalists at the very top of the military’s officer corps —to say nothing of their Commander in Chief— that an enlisted Marine was passing out Christian “witnessing coins” inscribed in Arabic at a checkpoint in Fallujah? One side of the coin asked, “Where will you spend eternity?” An evangelical favorite, John 3:16, was on the flip side.

Sheik Adul-Rahman al-Zubaie, a tribal leader in Fallujah who was outraged by the Marine’s proselytizing said, “This event did not happen by chance, but it was planned and done intentionally.”

While the Marine’s proselytizing is not the official policy of the predominately Christian force occupying the predominately Islamic Iraq, it was done “in the line of duty” with a wink and a nod from his chain of command. Think Abu Ghraib!

From Fort Jackson, the Army’s largest basic training facility, where trainees are encouraged to attend Campus Crusade’s weekly “God’s Basic Training” programs, to the U.S. Air Force Academy where students are pressured to attend the Crusade’s weekly “cru” (short for crusade) Bible study, American military personnel are, as Campus Crusade’s Scot Blom gloats, “government paid missionaries” when they complete their training.

As the demands of fighting a perpetual war against “radical Islam” begins to strain both the military’s resources and the country’s resolve, the Pentagon has begun outsourcing larger chunks of the war to private contractors. Predictably, our “government paid missionaries” have become more expensive and much less controllable or accountable.

The Bush administration’s favorite contractor, Blackwater, is the most powerful private army in the world. It commands thousands of mercenaries in Iraq and Afghanistan, has over a billion dollars in government contracts, and enjoys complete immunity from prosecution for its theater of operations’ conduct.

Blackwater’s founder, Erik Prince, a staunchly conservative Catholic, has also served on the board of directors of Christian Freedom International, a crusading missionary organization operating in the overwhelmingly Islamic countries of Sudan, Somalia, Afghanistan and Iraq.
Prince envisions an evangelical “end time” role for his warriors, “Everybody carries guns, just like Jeremiah rebuilding the temple in Israel— a sword in one hand and a trowel in the other.”

No one in the last decade has contributed more to end time, apocalyptic evangelism than John Hagee, a televangelist seen by millions of viewers weekly and pastor of the 19,000-member Cornerstone Church.
Hagee preaches that in order to bring about the Second Coming of Christ and the Rapture of true believers, Islam first has to be destroyed.

In a 2006 interview with National Public Radio’s Terry Gross, Hagee told her, “Those who live by the Quran have a scriptural mandate to kill Christians and Jews.”
He went on to claim that there are 200 million Muslims waiting for the chance to attack Israel and the United States.
From his pulpit, Hagee makes it clear to his congregation and the radio and television audience what they can expect from American Muslims if such an attack ever took place, “While American Muslims live in America, 82 percent are not loyal to America and are not willing to fight and defend America.”

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== on the contrary, those who live by the Quran may have a Scriptural mandate to respect and be in good relations with Christians and Jews, as long as they too respect and want to be in good relations with Muslims. (Ankaboot 46 & Aale Imraan 64 & Mumtahenah eight & …)
but these kind of provocative Evangelical sermons are not only basically wrong, but also may be very harmful to all Christians & Jews & Muslims’ living together in peace and security.
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In his book, “Jerusalem Countdown - A Warning to the World,” Hagee warns that the war between Islam and the West “is a war that Islam cannot and must not win.”

John Hagee is not just a mad evangelizing prophet. He is the mad evangelizing prophet who is courted by a war president, a hawkish presidential candidate and members of Congress from both parties. His Islamophobic bilge has trickled down from Capital Hill, through the labyrinthine corridors of the Pentagon, and into the chamber of a sniper’s rifle and the hand of a Marine guarding a checkpoint in Fallujah.

Officers in the military are expected to lead by example. Enlisted personnel are expected to follow that example. If the recent incidents at Radhwaniya and Fallujah are not just the acts of renegades, then the chain of command seems to be working the way it was designed.

an article from (www.crusadewatch.org)
june 2008

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Unfortunately some Muslims are not aware or who (sinful and unacceptable in this case) due to a variety of complexes are weak and apologetic…
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really interesting!
especially in the light of some critical writings above:
(June 18, 9:06) (June 19, 8:35) (June 21, 7:28)
then according to your righteous!! evaluation

= who do not buy into this Evangelical “anti-evolutionary” biased/ignorant
pseudo-scientific & pseudo-religious propaganda,
and who do not side with these
“Godlike!! Human Beings & God Incarnate!! Jesus” advocates
–mainly based on their “anti-evolutionary” biased/ignorant tirade, as may have been pointed out many times in the above writings–
should be considered by all of us as weak and apologetic muslims & christians etc.?!
really worrisome! (Maaedah 17 & 51)
May God forgive you and awaken you from your highly duped & mistaken position, if He ever wills, brother.
(Aaraaf 30 = Anaam 112-113 & Maaedah 17-18)

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QU’RAN, verse 71:12-14 - ….when He created you by successive stages
This verse is explaining the development of a person from
sperm, embryo , bones etc and NOT the tieing of man’s origins to another living species.
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the development of a person from sperm, embryo, bones etc. may have already been explained in Quran in 23/13-14.

but in 71/13-14

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13- why should you not strive to reverence Allah?
14- and though He created you –all living beings– in stages (= atvaaran).
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as we may already know, first

= the origin of all heavenly beings, out of “bang,”
and then their progressive/evolutionary creation course,
(anbeeyaa 30 & dhaareyaat 47 & …)

and then

= the origin of all living beings, out of “water,”
and then their progressive/evolutionary creation course,
(anbeeyaa 30 & nooh 13-14 & anaam 133 & …)

may have miraculously been mentioned “together” in one verse, before this, in the Scripture. (Quran 21/30)

so these 71/13-14-15 verses perhaps may be complementary miraculous verses to that verse (21/30)
to again inform us a little bit further about the progressive “evolutionary creation path” of all living beings on earth. (21/30 & 71/13-14 & …)

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QU’RAN, verse 76:1 - ….man a period of time when he was a thing not worth mentioning.
Adam (as) was unknown to the rest of creation before having been given a Soul by God Almighty including the Angels who then were commanded to PROSTRATE before him and from that moment his superiority over the rest of creation was announced:

As one can clearly see this is NOT his supposed origin from an ape!
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let us look at these verses here, together, a little bit more closely then:

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is it not a fact that: a very long period of time
(= heynun men addahre) has passed upon human being
when he was not a thing to be mentioned –on earth– yet? (Insaan 1)
———-

first of all, if we carefully ponder on this verse here,
especially in connection with two related verses mentioned above (21/30 & 71/13-14),
perhaps we may immediately see that:

human beings may have appeared on earth at the end of a long evolutionary creation course,
long after the appearance of first –primitive– living forms on earth, out of water. (29/20 = 21/30 & 71/13-14 & 76/1)
(and this is also what fossil record have clearly
indicated to Scientists today; (June 17, 3:58)
except some fanatic anti-evolutionary Evangelicals, of course, who are finding some “modern human foot print” in the oldest strata, every once in a while!!) (June 17, 8:56)

and also perhaps to be an honorable Creature in the eyes of Allah and thus to be a “mentioned thing” (= shayan madhkoora) in His eyes on earth, (76/1)
human beings must have first been

= fully & nicely formed human beings
that were firstly capable of “mentioning” (= fadhkuroone) Allah that He, in return, may have “mentioned” (= adhkurkum) them
then on earth. (Quran 2/152 & 76/1)

and this may exactly be the case in the –evolutionary–
appearance of first human beings (Adam and then his followers) on earth:

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and once, your Lord said to the Angels: now I will make a Successor (= haleefatan) on earth. (Baqarah 30)

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“haleefatan” is used in the Scripture for Successive human beings on earth that may have come out from the descendants of some other generations before them. (Anaam 133)
so here Adam also must clearly be coming to the earth as a Successor (= haleefatan) to/from out of some a little bit “different generations” (= qavman aahareen: humanlike primates) before him. (6/133 & 2/30)
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and Angels said: will You make therein someone who will commit evil therein and shed blood…?
Allah said: I know what you do not know now. (baqarah 30)

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so although Angels cannot know the future (27/65),
how can they anticipate here that this new Creature will act like a wild animal (= coommit evil & shed blood) on earth;
unless, of course, they may have already witnessed that this new Creature is coming from out of some wild creatures (= humanlike primates) already here?
so he would probably act just like –wildly as– them…
but our God immediately informs them that it will not be
the case here, because there is something special with this new Creature.
so let us learn from our Lord now, what might have been so special with this new Creature?
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and He (Allah) taught Adam all of the Names; then He presented them to the Angels and said: inform Me with the Names of these, if you are truthful.
they said: be You glorified. we have no knowledge except what You already made us know. You are the Knower, the Most-Wise.
He (Allah) said: o Adam, inform them with their Names.
and when he informed them with their Names, He (Allah) said: Did I not tell you that I know best the unseen of the heavens and the earth, and I know best what you reveal and what you conceal.
and then we said to the Angels: then fall prostrate before Adam… (Baqarah 30-34)

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so here these “Names” may be that thing
that was so special that made Adam so –spiritually– superior before all other creatures
which may have come before him in an evolutionary way. (71/13-14 & 76/1) & (6/133 & 2/30-34)
and these “Names” perhaps may refer to the Holy “Names” of our Lord and also the ability of Language in general… Allah knows best.
***

and here perhaps we should also never forget these additional critical points, as already may have pointed out in some of the writings above:

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…(in the beginning), and then we made every
LIVING-BEING from WATER. (21/30)

all the CREATURES on earth and all the flying BIRDS are congregations that are –physically & genetically– SIMILAR/SAME as you. (6/38)

so why do you not give Allah the glory?
and though He created you –all living-beings– in STAGES (= atvaaran). (71/13-14)

is it not a fact that,
a very LONG PERIOD (= heynun min addahre) passed upon HUMAN-BEING when he was not a thing to be mentioned –on earth– yet? (76/1)
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and not just by looking at some striking genetic similarities, but more than that, some scientists recently discovered that humans’ second chromosome is actually the product of the “fusion of two chromosomes” that are found seperately in some great apes.
and this may be another miraculous Sign for us from our God about the evolutionary “common ancestry” concept between some great apes and humans.

so how our God may have described for us these “common ancestors,” with the most elegant description in His Scripture may be another important thing we should be appreciative of here:

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if He wants, He may make-you-vanish,
and He may make-successors after you (like He made Adam a successor, 2/30) whatever He wants,
as He built you from the descendants of a DIFFERENT CONGREGATION (= qavman aahareen: humanlike primates,
which may be common ancestors of great apes and humans) (6/133)
———-

please, also see comparison of human and great apes chromosomes as evidence of evolutionary common ancestry concept here:

(www.gate.net/~rwms/EvoEvidence.html)

** this solid evidence may be giving a real hard time for evangelical anti-evolutionary instant Common Designists!
after all “evangelical anti-evolutionary instant
Common Designer” may have made a big –hard to
ignore– mistake/gaffe here…
perhaps with the great risk of just to be “ruled out” before all the scientists,
and maybe before the Most-Wise Evolutionary True Common Designer!

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(and please, also do not forget here: in the eyes of our Lord all the other creatures on earth –including all those great apes of course– are not Inferior to human beings PHYSICALLY (6/38),
they may be as magnificient as human beings GENETICALLY & MORPHOLOGICALLY (6/38),
but they are only Inferior to human beings SPIRITUALLY. (2/65)
so if we think of Evolutionary Creation technique of our Lord with this perspective in mind, we can appreciate it more rightfully & humbly…
(but perhaps only except the ones who –erroneously– think that God may have created them all

separately,
instantly,
immune from all past and future evolution,
just like Him,

in the perfect physical Image of Him!!

and perhaps there may be no instant cure for this type of arrogance yet, and perhaps there may unfortunately never be for some.
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Quran verse 38:75
Allah said: o satan, what prevented you from prostrating before what I have created here with my own “hands”?

Quran, verse 15:28-29
…When your Lord said to the angels:” I am creating a human being out of dried “clay” formed from fetid black mud. When i have formed him and breathed My Spirit into him, fall down in prostration in front of him!”
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in Quran there may also be many allegorical narrations
(= kulle mathalen) (17/89) beside many scientific narrations. for example:

our Lord may be telling us in Quran that
He created all universe and the human beings
with His own “hands.” (= beayden & beyadayya)
(Dhareyaat 47 & Sad 75)
but in actuality we may already know that He may have created all the universe and all living beings without touching a “hand” to them, first with His initial command “be,” (36/82)
and then all from out of bang and water in the beginning,
and then He may have again evolved both of them without touching a “hand” to them thereupon and until now. (21/30 & 51/47 & …) (21/30 & 71/13-14 & 76/1 & …)

so this “creating with His own hand” narrations should be understood in an allegorical way (17/89)
perhaps just in the sense that “creating with His own superb power & intellect.”

and so a similar allegorical approach (17/89) may perhaps be also applied to the narration of
creation of jinns from “fire” (= naren)
and human beings from “clay;” (= tiynen)

because in actuality we may already understand that jinns are not created from “fire,”
because if they were created from “fire,” we could have easily seen lots of them –there are billions of them– in our universe, but we cannot see even one of them (72/1 & 7/27),
because in actuality they may not have been created from “fire,”
just as we may not have been created from “clay,”

so we may/should understand these kind of narrations perhaps in an allegorical sense (17/89) again:

= jinns are created as powerful & destroyful as/from FIRE,
= human beings are created as weak & fragile as/from CLAY. (38/76)

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QU’RAN, verses 21:30-31 - …We made from water every living thing..
This verse does not state that God TOOK every living thing OUT OF WATER but MADE which as we all know every living being is made mostly by water (eg sperm,cells etc)
Saying that this verse suggests the hypothetical (evolutionist) primordial origin of the first cell is clearly FORCING a meaning which it does not have.
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yes, actually the starting of creation of all heavenly beings out of “bang,” in the beginning,
and then the starting of creation of all living beings
out of “water,” in the beginning,
may have thus miraculously been indicated to us in just one verse, together,
as our Lord may have also awesomely commanded to us in another verse to search and understand both of these origins together. (29/20 & 21/30)
and so many Scientists may basically be on the right track now in regard with these two origins.
may Allah show us His evolutionary creation Signs to us more clearly, if He wills, in near future, in both regards. (21/37 & 41/53) (21/30)

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It is clear from these verses that again the STAGES of man’s development are being referred to here. The word COMMENCED i.e started, clearly rules out the transforming into a human from an ape scenario!
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in 71/13-15 the word “atvaaran” (= stages) used there (and this word may have only been used once and here throughout the Quran) may have not initially been related
with man’s development in the wombs, because God does not mention there anything about development of man in the wombs before or after these verses.
and please remember here again a little bit more detailed explanation regarding this important verse
above.

yes, if I say: God started (= bedaa) the creation of “Iron” from a proton (= that is Hydrogen),
what I am saying may basically be right in the progressive/evolutionary sense that:

God started (= bedaa) the creation of “Iron” in the stars, first

with Hydrogen, and then Helium, and then Lithium….
and then “Iron” came up in the advanced stages of this progressive/evolutionary creation technique…

and this may absolutely be the same with the concept of starting the creation of Man from muddy-water… (29/20 = 21/30 & (32/7 ~ 37/11) & 71/13-14 & 76/1)

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say: roam the earth and find out how He started (= bedaa) the creation… (Ankaboot 20)

did those disbelievers not see that the heaven and earth used to be one solid-mass –in the beginning– and we exploded it,
and then we created every living being –from simple to complex– from water… (Anbeeyaa 30 & Nooh 13-14 & Insaan 1)
———-

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But.. every Muslim knows that Adam and Eve were initially in paradise/heaven prior to their expulsion to earth. This heaven or paradise was not ovbiously yet then a place of reward for believers(as Satan was there too at the time) but subsequently became so after the their expulsion to earth as per God’s Wisdom.
So it is clear also from this verse that there was no ape involved in the emerging of man who’s initial physical origin apart from the Souls was not of this earth.
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Adam and Eve may have been in paradise in their Souls prior to this incident. and when their body was made ready in the best Design on earth in an evolutionary creation technique (as may have been seen in the above verses, 2/30 & 6/133) they may have immediately been descended to their earthly/humanly bodies after that.

perhaps we should also remember here that
all human beings may still be being raised to heaven every night in their Souls,
and they may again be being descended to their earthly/humanly bodies the next time they wake up on earth. (Quran 39/42)

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This verse is in reference to our original father Adam (from whom we are descended) who was made from dust & clay. Also the elements that are present in the soil are in most part present in the Humans.
As always one has to point to the other vesres already mentioned to know that it is not evolution being described here.
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and perhaps this may be another credible evidence that Adam’s body must have been made out of earthly material, in the first place,
so it is very plausible that his body must have been prepared –in evolutionary stages– beginning from watery mud (= tiynen laazeben) here on earth, in the first place. (29/20) = (21/30 & 32/7 & 37/11) & (71/13-14 & 76/1) only his Soul must have been descended down from heaven after this, as explained above.

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but several other verses show 2:65, 7:166 that this means that as punishment Allah turned some transgressors on the one occasion from humans into apes - the otherway round from evolution!
Therefore it is utterly erroneous to derive an evolutionary conclusion from this verse or any other for that matter.
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Allah who turned some evil human beings (possibly together with their future descendants) in His eyes into apes (2/65)
of course then CAN also turn some good humanlike primates (together with their future descendants) in His eyes into humans,
as He may have already indicated to us that He really did. (6/133 & 2/30) what is so “difficult” about this?

and of course, He may have also indicated to us
in His Word that He really used this wonderful Evolutionary Creation technique, continuously, just from the very beginning, (21/30 & 71/13-14 & 6/133 & 76/1 & …)
as many transitional forms may also have shown us this Evolutionary superb Creative Power of our Lord,
no matter how much some fanatic anti-evolutionary Evangelicals do not want to see them for very specific ill-reasons, in the first place. (June 17, 3:58)

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IT IS ABSOLUTELY CLEAR THAT ANY OTHER VERSE/S THAT ARE BEING SUGGESTED OR BROUGHT FORWARD AS EVIDENCE FOR EVOLUTION IN THE QU’RAN IS TOTALLY RIDICULOUS, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF READING THE QU’RAN (it’s verses)AS A WHOLE.
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if these kind of –scientifically backed– understanding of Verses are really from Allah
to explain and inform us about His wonderful Evolutionary Creation technique
both in heavenly scale and earthly scale
(21/30 & 71/13-15 & 51/47 & …) (21/30 & 71/13-14 & 6/133 & 76/1 & 14/19 & …)
but still we find them “ridiculous” for the sake of a Gnostic & Evangelical influenced
fanatic anti-reality & fanatic anti-evolutionary bewildered
pseudo-religious Ideology on earth, then
may God forgive us, if He ever wills so. (18/57)
(7/30 & 6/112-113 & 5/17 & …) (4/17)

i want to talk about one critical “misconception” here that may have long been produced & provoked deliberately by anti evolutionary Evangelical masterminds to utterly demonize Science and Evolution(ary creation) issue in the eyes of people.

and that is their willingness to picture Evolution and all its discovered basic Mechanisms up to now together as a “pagan religion” and whoever believes in it
as “pagans,”
and themselves of course “Religious Heroes (army of God Incarnate!! Christ) who are courageously fighting against this Paganism in our age!!” for at least a 100 years by now.
here are some exemplary quotations:

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In fact, evolution is really a Pagan belief system that rejects the God of the Bible for a ‘god’ of their own making!!
(living word bible ministries)

Evolution is the dumbest and the most dangerous Religion in the history of the earth!!
(kent hovind evangelical ministries)

only it is being tampered with by atheist scientists who are blindly following the darwinian Religion!!
(bibleprobe creationism ministries)

Evolutionists are todays 21th century Pagans who are trying to disguise themselves in a scientific cloak!!
(earthage evangelical ministries)
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so then let us look here together into the Scripture and see & understand what is paganism and who are indeed the real pagans in the eyes of God:

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and once –before the foundation of the world– your Lord has taken from sons of Adam from after them their descendants and had them bear witness for themselves:
Am I not your only Lord?
they said: yes; we bear witness.
thus you cannot say on the Day of Resurrection:
we were totally “UNAWARE-ONES” (= gaafeleen) on
this –issue/event. (Aaraaf 172)

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and definitely, we have committed to jahannam (= arid land: graves) multitudes of jinns and humans.
they have hearts, but they never want to comprehend
–Godly issues– with them;
they have eyes, but they never want to see
–Godly issues– with them;
they have ears, but they never want to hear
–Godly issues– with them;
these are like animals, and they are even more
craving –for earthly things–
these are the “UNAWARE-ONES” (= gaafeloon). (again Aaraaf 179)
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so the pagans (= mushrekeen) will have to come from the first group mentioned above;
these people, although they may have stood spiritually before God, before the foundation of the world,
and promised Him not to take anyone (any Angels & any Prophets & any Religious Scholars) as LORDS beside Him,
will broke their promise and unfortunately do so. (Aaraaf 172) X (Aale Imraan 80 & Tavbah 31)
and so these kind of people may have to go into eternal jahannam (= bad land: hell) in the end. (Bayyenah 6)

but the (secular & liberal etc. kind of) people who are totally disinterested in Religious/Godly Issues
from the second group mentioned above,
who may have never stood spiritually before God, before the foundation of the world, and so thus never promised Him anything,
may not have been called as “pagans” (= mushrekeen);
but they may have only been called as “UNAWARE-ONES” (= gaafeloon) in the Scripture. (Aaraaf 179)

and because that our God may have thus excluded them from the Witnessing & Promise event/issue –and left them totally as “Unaware-Ones” of this–
before the foundation of the world, (AAraaf 172)
may only send them into jahannam (= arid land: graves) in the end. (Aaraaf 179)

(** In the Scripture the positive term “jannaat” is sometimes used for (= fertile land: gardens) (Anaam 141)
and sometimes used for (= good land: paradise); (Bayyenah eight)
so the opposite term “jahannam” may have sometimes been used for (= arid land: graves) (Aaraaf 179)
and sometimes used for (bad land: hell) (Bayyenah 6)

so when we look at the Scripture carefully, in this respect, we clearly see that all the pagans (= mushrekeen)

1- do definitely believe in the existence of God in the first place. (Muminoon 84-89)

2- but they took some
–alleged– female Angels (= Laat & Uzzaa & Manaat) (Najm 19-20 & 27)
or some Prophets (Tavbah 31)
or some Religious Scholars (Tavbah 31)

as LORDS (= authorities who are talking falsely in the name of God),
although they have promised God not to take anyone else as LORDS (= authorities who are talking from themselves in the name of God) beside Him, before the foundation of the world. (Aaraaf 172) X (Aale Imraan 80 & Tavbah 31)

(** in order to take our God as our only LORD we must
–like all Prophets did– submit ourselves only to His Religious Indoctrination; (Shooraa 10)
but if we don’t do this and submit ourselves to someone else’s Religious Indoctrinations, we may have automatically taken them as false LORDS beside our God; (Shooraa 10 & Maaedah 44, 47) X (Tavbah 31)

3- these kind of people may have also been called as “kaafereen” (= disbelievers) in the Scripture,
not because they “disbelieve” in the existence of God,
but because they “disbelieve” in what He may have sent herein. (Mulk 6-10) (Aale Imraan 52-53) (Mulk 9 & Haaqqah 33)

4- so all the examples in the Scripture
regarding the creation of heaven and earth and all things in them may have been basically cited as a manifestation of the “Power” of God,
and all the –already god believing– pagans and disbelievers (Anaam 148 & Zukhruf 20 & Aaraaf 28 & Muminoon 84-89 & …) may have been invited to believe in this true God,
based on these solid proofs,
and especially the magnificent “inimitable” literary composition of the Scripture (Baqarah 164-165 & …) (Toor 30-34 & …)
and commanded to leave their pseudo-religious Sources, fabricated in the name of God, immediately & completely. (Jaatheyah 5-6 & Aaraaf 28 & …)

and when we look at Gospel, in this respect, we may clearly see that Jesus may be accusing of paganism

1- all of the old Religious Scholars who were prescribing pseudo-religious doctrines, before him,
in the name of God,
and all the ones who followed them blindly. (Matthew 15/3-9 & 23/13-28)

2- all of the new Religious Scholars who would be prescribing pseudo-religious doctrines, after him,
in the name of God,
and all the ones who would follow them blindly. (Matthew 4/10 & Mark 10/18) (Matthew 7/15 & 21-23)

3- but when it comes to secular & liberal etc. establishment of his time, he may not have even made any religious declaration/invitation to them & or even against them. (Luke 23/8-9 & Mark 12/17)
but he may have only warned his followers not to live the way they live. (Mark 8/15)
because like all other major Prophets he may have already well known the “Godly Secret” regarding the creation of these kind of many people on earth. (Luke 16/8) (Quran 7/179)
(and please also see Quran 38/62 to understand how the god believing “pagans” in the time of Prophet Muhammad (muminoon 84-89 & aaraaf 28 & …) may have seen him and his followers as “collaborators” with these kind of “bad” (= alashraar) people. (Saad 62-64 & Aaraaf 179 & Mumtahinah eight)

and in this respect, if we look again into the issue of the proofs of the –physical– existence of our God and His creation technique etc.
we may easily see these basic principles:

1- God’s physical existence will never be perceived by humans’ five senses. (Anaam 103)

2- His Angels’ physical existences will never be perceived by humans’ five senses. (Waaqiah 85)

3- God’s inspirational communication and His control/manipulation over everything in the universe will never be perceived by humans’ five senses. (Israa 44)

so to believe in these things only on faith (= bilgaybe) without requiring any (seeable & touchable etc.) evidence (Baqarah 3) may be a prerequisite upon all people within the first group mentioned above (Aaraaf 172),
because they may have already been witnessed upon God’s physical existence & and His Angels & and His inspiration before the foundation of the world
and gave Him their crucial Promise, as stated above. (Aaraaf 172)
so these kind of people can never require any (seeable & touchable etc.) evidence regarding the physical existence of God and His Angels; this would be deemed as a great sin & arrogance on their part. (Baqarah 55-56 & Furqaan 21)
because our God’s holy existence must already be clear to them in their souls;
God may already be in a “revealed” (= az-Zaaheru) state for them, in their souls. (Hadeed 3 & Aaraaf 172)

but on the other hand, the people within the second group mentioned above (Aaraaf 179) may have totally been excluded from this kind of evaluation.
because our God’s holy existence must already be obscure to them in their souls;
God may already be in a “hidden” (= al-Baatinu) state for them, in their souls. (Hadeed 3 & Aaraaf 179)
because they may have already been left as UNAWARE-ONES (= gaafeloon) of the witnessing upon God’s physical existence & and His Angels & and His Inspiration before the foundation of the world. (Aaraaf 179)
and these kind of people who have preferred to live in an animalistic -exempt- state, far from Godly issues, from the foundation of the world
may perhaps be divided into two sub-groups:

1- wild animalistic people (like some socialists & communists etc.)

2- non-wild animalistic people (like some seculars & liberals etc.)

although the first sub-group here must be a concern for all believers (Mumtahenah 9) and humanity,
the second sub-group might be dealt with respect and in good relations, as much as possible,
as long as they too deal with respect and in good relations, as much as possible, with the believers. (Mumtahenah eight)

so why then our God may have created so many people on earth from this –left totally as “UNAWARE-ONES” of His presence– second group (Aaraaf 179)?

1- maybe sometimes to physically prevent and subdue the real “pagans” (= Anti Christ army who are unfortunately acting in the name of Christ),
who may have broken their promise with God and took their Prophet –and also some of their Religious Scholars– as LORDS within/beside God, against His will and His Messenger’s will, (Matthew 4/10 & Mark 10/18) (Matthew 15/7-9),
because of their many physical atrocities against all true monotheistic believers (John 15/20-21 & Matthew 7/22-23) and other humanity, throughout the history.

2- maybe sometimes to scientifically prevent and humble the real “pagans” (= Anti Christ army who are unfortunately acting in the name of Christ),
who may have broken their promise with God and took their Prophet –and also some of their Religious Scholars–as LORDS within/beside God, against His will and His Messenger’s will, (Matthew 4/10 & Mark 10/18) (Matthew 15/7-9)
because of their many scientific atrocities against all true monotheistic –especially theistic Evolutionary & Big bang etc.– believers (John 15/20-21 & Matthew 7/22-23) and other humanity, throughout the history.

after all, do not all armies & people in heaven and on earth belong to our only God (Fatth 7 & Younus 66);
and is not our God the Most Wise of all the wise ones? (Teeyn eight)

and had not He also humbled the fathers of these (unscientific & unfriendly) Anti Christ army
mostly by these kind of people within the second group
in the previous ages, by showing them in the end:

= the earth is not in the center of the Universe,
as they had falsely claimed in the name of
God Incarnate!! Jesus…

= the sun is not rotating around the earth,
as they had falsely claimed in the name of
God Incarnate!! Jesus…

and so now perhaps in this age:

= the human beings have not been created all
separately & instantly & immune from all past and future evolution,
just like Him,

in the perfect physical Image of Him,

as they have falsely claimed in the name of
God Incarnate!! Jesus…

i want to give here, this time, some interesting examples of these (young earth) evangelical Anti-Bigbang sentiments/activities.
but before this, maybe we should remember again here these critical statements of some prominent evangelical thinkers:

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In reality though, this theory (Evolution) is nothing more than an attempt by men (whose knowledge is quite limited) to try and explain how they think we might have been created without a Creator!!

For this reason, the Big Bang theory goes hand in hand with the theory of Evolution, which is an attempt to do likewise!!

(earthage.org)
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so in Evangelical understanding,

if anything is being created/formed,
from simplest to more complex,
with certain mechanisms, on its own,
without touching a hand from outside,
it must definitely be understood as

= a creation without a Creator!!

i may have already pointed out the possible “root cause” of this sick perspective, in the first place, in the above writing and also tried to give the possible cure for this kind of absent perspective, from the Scripture;
i want to copy it here again, because of its fundamental
importance:

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because in evangelical belief system:

God does/must do everything
with His own hands,
without any mechanisms whatsoever…

but in other religious belief systems:

God does/can do everthing
without touching a hand to them
via His initial command “Be”
and then everthing starts to be,
from the simplest to the most complex,
under His full inspiration/command (Quran 17/44)
and in accordance with His pre-established plan & mechanisms…
(Quran 36/82 & 21/30 & 51/47)
(Quran 36/82 & 21/30 & 71/13-14 & 76/1 & 14/19 & …)

and maybe again for this reason in the Scripture our God may have also wondrously pointed out to us:

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do they not watch the “mechanisms” (= malakoote)
of the heavens and the earth,
and whatever God has created,
and –thus understood that– perhaps their
predetermined-span may have neared… (Aaraaf 185)
********

yes, if the human beings closely watch and perceive
these “mechanisms” (= malakoote), perhaps they can even rightfully –to the extent He may want– predict many natural endings/spans in the heavens and on the earth

(the spans of many stars & black holes & galaxies & … in heaven)

(the spans of many resources & elements & and even all creatures –perhaps mainly due to evolutionary mechanisms in nature and in these creatures– on earth.)
(please also see here 14/19 & 6/133)

so our God may indeed be doing/creating everything in this way,
without touching a hand to them,
for example:

forming of all heavenly structures (clusters & galaxies etc.)
beginning from bang, with the simplest, and then evolving as He wishes, (21/30 & 51/47)

forming of the clouds, (30/48)
forming of the typhoons, (51/41)
forming of the earthquakes, etc. (79/6)

and, of course, forming of all life forms
beginning from water, with the simplest, and then evolving as He wishes (21/30 & 71/13-14 & 6/133 & 14/19 & 76/1 & …)

so when science discovers all or some of the wonderful mechanisms that may be serving all of these creation techniques in the heaven and on the earth,
we do not get dismayed as most of these evangelicals unfortunately do,
but on the contrary, we get even more excited and praise the wisdom of our Lord. (36/82) (21/30 & 51/47) (21/30 & 71/13-14 & 14/19 & 76/1 & …)

and we do call everyone on earth to this magnificent God, through His magnificent Word, (without using any force or imposing our Religion on anyone. 2/256)
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so now we may look at this interesting example of
evangelical Anti-Bigbang sentiment/activity (which may
in essence be stemming from the same kind of initial “sick perspective & feelings” which causes the
Anti-Evolution(ary Creation) sentiments/activities) a little bit more closely:

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..quotes The New York Times:

George Deutsch, a presidential appointee in NASA headquarters, told a Web designer working for the agency to add the word “theory” after every mention of the Big Bang, according to an e-mail message from Mr. Deutsch that another NASA employee forwarded to The Times.

The Big Bang memo came from Mr. Deutsch, a 24-year-old presidential appointee in the press office at NASA headquarters whose résumé says he was an intern in the “war room” of the 2004 Bush-Cheney re-election campaign. A 2003 journalism graduate of Texas A&M, he was also the public-affairs officer who sought more control over Dr. Hansen’s public statements.

In October 2005, Mr. Deutsch sent an e-mail message to Flint Wild, a NASA contractor working on a set of Web presentations about Einstein for middle-school students.

The message said the word “theory” needed to be added after every mention of the Big Bang.
The Big Bang is “not proven fact; it is opinion,”

Mr. Deutsch wrote, adding, “It is not NASA’s place, nor should it be to make a declaration such as this about the existence of the universe that discounts intelligent design by a creator.”

It continued: “This is more than a science issue, it is a religious issue. And I would hate to think that young people would only be getting one-half of this debate from NASA. That would mean we had failed to properly educate the very people who rely on us for factual information the most.” [emphasis added]

Deutsch has no background in science; NASA, however, is one of the nation’s preeminent scientific organizations. Thus, a political appointee with no real education in science is deciding how NASA will present science to the public —not on the basis of scientific considerations and standards, but on the basis of political and religious standards (which, in the Bush administration, often seem to be the same thing).

Curiously, this is the same George Deutsch who used his position to “suppress information about global warming” and, when criticized over this, NASA sent out a memo to all employees stating “It is not the job of
public-affairs officers to alter, filter or adjust engineering or scientific material produced by NASA’s technical staff.” Deutsch’s actions regarding changes to how the Big Bang is described cannot be described any other way but altering, filtering, and adjusting scientific material.
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When will you understand that i do not care about the evangelical point of view and their errors beyond sharing common terms with them in certain aspects as i have said many times before:

(1) That evolution as the scientific evidence has clearly and irrefutably shown (cell to species changing into different species and so on) has been fuly exposed and demolished.

(2) That God Almighty has not created LIVING THINGS via evolution although He could have had He wanted.

Now the way they go about it is their business. I as a Muslim deal with it from the Qu’ranic point of view which is error free in all aspects including scientific.

The REAL ENEMIES of ours are not generally speaking the evangelists although there our those who are clearly hostile, devious and untrustworthy BUT:

THE SECULAR WORLD ORDER (architects and maintainers - freemasons) WITH IT’S:

RACISM, SOCIAL DARWINISM, FALSE SCIENCE, POLLUTERS AND DESTROYERS OF THE ENVIRONMENT, FALSE PRESENTING OF HISTORY, “DEMOCRACY”,
FALSE CREATING OF ENEMIES eg so-called war on terror, encouraging of sexual immorality and breakdown of religious and family values and on and on…

AND OF COURSE YOU CAN SEE HOW AND WHY EVOLUTION IS IMPORTANT TO THE SYSTEM AND WHY THEY MUST AT ALL COST
KEEP IT ON THE AGENDA.

IF THEY WERE SO SURE AND CONFIDENT THAT EVOLUTION WAS FACT WHY DO THEY THEY NOT ALLOW CREATIONISM ALONGSIDE DARWINISM TO BE TAUGHT IN SCHOOL, COLLEGE AND UNI AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO MAKE UP THEIR OWN MINDS?

AND THE ANSWER OF COURSE IS VERY SIMPLE:

BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT WILL BE GAME OVER AND THEIR SECULAR WORLD ORDER WILL BEGIN TO COLLAPSE AS PEOPLE ON MASS WILL
START RETURNING TO RELIGION i.e GOD AND THAT IS THE VERY LAST THING THEY WANT.

EXAMPLE: WORKS LIKE THE ATLAS OF CREATION HAS TERRIFIED THEM BUT IT IS TOO LATE, IT IS NOW IN THE OPEN.

I AM TIRED OF HAVING TO REPEAT MYSELF OVER AND OVER AGAIN. MY MANY COMMENTS AND EVIDENCES WILL ALWAYS CONTINUE TO STAND FIRM AND IT IS POINTLESS TO KEEP GOING ROUND IN CIRCLES.

ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS RID YOURSELF OF YOUR COMPLEXES AND WAKE UP!

here i want to quote this time some highly enthusiastic
statements from Christian Science ideology, which claims that matter –in reality– does not exist at all!!
as we may have already seen in some critical writings above that Gnostic Christian ideology may have had some similar (but more delusional & dangerous) perspectives than these. and the Quranic and Gospelic rightful answers to these kind of delusional & dangerous claims may have already been given in short/basic terms in those critical writings. (May 16, 6:37) (May 17, 10:09)
then let us look now here at some of these Christian Science ideology claims:

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“Man is spiritual and perfect….
He is the compound idea of God, including all right ideas; the generic term for all that reflects God’s image and likeness….

(Science and Health, 475:11-20.)
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= in physical sense, no one on earth and in heaven may
NEVER be in the Image of God, in the first place.
because our God is definitely stated to be “unlike anyone & anything” from eternity to eternity. (Deutoronomy 4/15-20) (John 6/46 & Mark 10/18) (Quran 42/11)

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Christian Science teaches that God and his creation are completely spiritual and perfect.
Matter does not exist; it is an illusion to be overcome by understanding its nothingness.
We are subject to the laws of matter (called “mortal mind”) only to the extent that we believe they are real.
As we begin to understand that matter, including our bodies, is an illusion,
we become increasingly free from the consequences of living under that illusion.
Our experience begins to reflect that understanding in the form of healings.
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= matter may DO exist, in the first place,
because our God may have clearly stated that:
He has truthfully (= belhaqqe) created it, outside of us, in the first place. (14/19)
yes, we may not be subject to laws of matter, whenever our Lord may want to change that laws of matter for us, for a specific period of time or for an endless period of time, as in the case of Jesus or Abraham. (Matthew 14/26-27) (Quran 21/69)
but this does NOT mean that matter is an illusion;
it may absolutely be truth, and the laws of matter may absolutely be truth, outside of us,
but they can also be changed only by our Lord’s will, whenever He wants, in the way He wants.

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Christian Science never really explains where the belief in matter came from or why it seems to exist – it just does (seemingly), and it must be challenged at every turn as it constantly tries to convince us that our physical senses and environment are real.
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= yes, but they may actually be REAL! (14/19 & 88/17-20) and if we challange it at every turn, as you suggested, it may not be good at all for our physical and spiritual health! to live in a “delusional state” like this may not cure us, but instead it may make us sick to our stomach in the long run! (14/19 & 52/15-16)

brother joe,

as i –and some other friends– may have already answered all your basic ill-based misled/misleading arguments against

= the Reality of Matter, outside of us, issue,
based on valid Quranic & Scientific proofs and perspective; (May 16, 6:37) (May 17, 10:09)

= the factuality of Evolutionary Creation issue,
based on valid Quranic & Scientific proofs and perspective; (May 16, 6:37) (May 17, 10:09)
(May 27, 10:21) (May 30, 1:34) …

= the hidden (Evangelical) agenda behind worldwide
pretentious Anti Masonic propaganda,
based on solid quotational proofs and perspective;
(June 8, 9:48)

and as i may have also already expressed before, i will not go into any further argument with you on these subjects here. you can repeat yourself (= your Gnostic & Evangelical influenced ill-based & wrongful & biased arguments) as long as you want…
i may understand your –pseudo-religious/politic– motives.
may God guide you from the darknesses (= the dark sayings of gnostic & evangelical influenced false mahdees) into the light (= the bright teachings of
God-sent true Mahdee: Muhammad & Quran), if He ever wills so, in the future. (28/56) & (7/30 & 52/15-16 & 5/17 & …)

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now i want to give some more excerpts here from the same book (= Science, Evolution..)
prepared by National Academy of Sciences (year: 2008)
some basic answers against –evangelical– creationist claims & objections against the Evolution(ary Creation) concept, in general.
that we may a little bit better understand the position of all –theist & atheist & agnostic etc.– Scientists, and also many Theologians, in the face of these mostly evangelical uninformed/biased claims & objections.

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Science, Evolution
and –evangelical– Creationism
NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES, USA,

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Creationism in its various forms is not the same thing as belief in God because, as was discussed earlier, many believers as well as many mainstream religious groups accept the findings of science, including evolution.
Nor is creationism necessarily tied to Christians who interpret the Bible literally. Some non-Christian religious believers also want to replace scientific explanations with their own religion’s supernatural accounts of physical phenomena.

== i would never prefer the evangelical literal interpretation of Bible, or the others’ literal interpretation of their Sources, to the Scientific data.
what comes from pure Science may basically be better
what comes from them. (maybe we should remember here the “earth centered universe” & “sun rotating around earth” & “flat earth” inferences
which may have stemmed from these kind of some Religious literal interpretations of Bible, and also other Sources, in the previous centuries.)

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Creationists sometimes cite what they claim to be an incomplete fossil record as evidence that living things were created in their modern forms. But this argument ignores the rich and extremely detailed record of evolutionary history that paleontologists and other biologists have constructed over the past two centuries and are continuing to construct. Paleontological research has filled in many of the parts of the fossil record that were incomplete in Charles Darwin’s time. The claim that the fossil record is “full of gaps” that undermine evolution is simply false. Indeed, paleontologists now know enough about the ages of sediments to predict where they will be able to find particularly significant transitional fossils, as happened with Tiktaalik and the ancestors of modern humans. Researchers also are using new techniques, such as computed axial tomography (CT), to learn even more about the internal structures and composition of delicate bones of fossils. Exciting new discoveries of fossils continue to be reported in both the scientific literature and popular media.

== as i may have already mentioned before the basic evangelical tactic in the face of these kind of many possible “transitional forms” could be:

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if there is any fossil evidence as of a “transitional form” that may clearly show us evolutionary progression path of some species, then you should immediately deny it by making it into its closest species.

if it is closer to birds,
immediately say: it is just a bird!
if it is closer to reptiles,
immediately say: it is just a reptile!

if it is closer to apes,
immediately say: it is just an ape!
if it is closer to humans,
immediately say: it is just a human!

but the problem here is that: many times what some evangelicals call: just an “ape!”
the others call: just a “human!”
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because we may have already known that
in the first place they may be so sure that
“God created all the universe and earth and all the living things in it just in 6 normal days, with His own hands, and then He especially created all human beings just on 6th day, all

separately,
instantly,
immune from all past and future evolution,

just like Him,

in the perfect physical Image of Him!!!

so with this literal interpretation of Bible and the rigid belief thereof in one’s mind, can s/he ever see any “transitional forms” or any other positive evidence regarding Evolution(ary Creation)??
so, of course, they may/will forever continue to be asking:

Where Are The “Transitional Forms”…?

who could be “More Blind” than the ones who “Do Not Want To See” in the first place?

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Another compelling feature of the fossil record is its consistency. Nowhere on Earth are fossils from dinosaurs, which went extinct 65 million years ago, found together with fossils from humans, who evolved in just the last few million years. Nowhere are the fossils of mammals found in sediments that are more than about 220 million years old. Whenever creationists point to sediments where these relationships appear to be altered or even reversed, scientists have clearly demonstrated that this reversal has resulted from the folding of geological strata over or under others. Sediments containing the fossils of only unicellular organisms appear earlier in the fossil record than do sediments containing the remains of both unicellular and multicellular organisms. The sequence of fossils across Earth’s sediments points unambiguously toward the occurrence of evolution.

== but still in many evangelical web sites and “creation museums” the hard evidences regarding the

“human and dinosaur face to face intimate friendship”

can be observed by all pious believers, to the dismay of all atheist & materialist evolutionists!!!

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Creationists sometimes argue that the idea of evolution must remain hypothetical because “no one has ever seen evolution occur.” This kind of statement also reveals that some creationists misunderstand an important characteristic of scientific reasoning. Scientific conclusions are not limited to direct observation but often depend on inferences that are made by applying reason to observations. Even with the launch of Earth-orbiting spacecraft, scientists could not directly see the Earth going around the Sun. But they inferred from a wealth of independent measurements that the Sun is at the center of the solar system. Until the recent development of extremely powerful microscopes, scientists could not observe atoms, but the behavior of physical objects left no doubt about the atomic nature of matter. Scientists hypothesized the existence of viruses for many years before microscopes became powerful enough to see them.

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Thus, for many areas of science, scientists have not directly observed the objects (such as genes and atoms) or the phenomena (such as the Earth going around the Sun) that are now well-established facts. Instead, they have confirmed them indirectly by observational and experimental evidence. Evolution is no different. Indeed, for the reasons described in this booklet, evolutionary science provides one of the best examples of a deep understanding based on scientific reasoning.

== but perhaps we should remember here again the evangelical initial ill-based “reasoning” against the Big bang and Evolution(ary creation) concepts:

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In reality though, this theory (Evolution) is nothing more than an attempt by men (whose knowledge is quite limited) to try and explain how they think we might have been created without a Creator!!!

For this reason, the Big Bang theory goes hand in hand with the theory of Evolution, which is an attempt to do likewise!!! (earthage.org)
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because in evangelical belief system:
God does/must do everything
with His own hands,
without any mechanisms whatsoever…

but in other religious belief systems:
God does/can do everthing
without touching a hand to them
via His initial command “Be”
and then everthing starts to be,
from the simplest to the most complex,
under His full inspiration/command (Quran 17/44)
and in accordance with His pre-established plan & mechanisms…
(Quran 36/82 & 21/30 & 51/47)
(Quran 36/82 & 21/30 & 71/13-14 & 76/1 & 14/19 & …)

and maybe again for this reason in the Scripture our God may have also wondrously pointed out to us:

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do they not watch the “mechanisms” (= malakoote)
of the heavens and the earth,
and whatever He has created,
and –thus understood that– perhaps their
predetermined-span may have neared… (Aaraaf 185)
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yes, if the human beings closely watch and perceive
these “mechanisms” (= malakoote), perhaps they can even rightfully –to the extent He may want– predict many natural endings/spans in the heavens and on the earth

(the spans of many stars & black holes & galaxies & … in heaven)

(the spans of many resources & elements & and even all creatures –perhaps mainly due to evolutionary mechanisms in nature and in these creatures– on earth.)
(please also see here 14/19 & 6/133)

so our God may indeed be doing/creating everything in this way,
without touching a hand to them,
for example:

forming of the stars and then galaxies, (21/30 & 51/47)
forming of the clouds, (30/48)
forming of the typhoons, (51/41)
forming of the earthquakes, etc. (79/6)
and, of course, forming of all life forms
beginning from water, with the simplest, and then evolving as He wishes (21/30 & 71/13-14 & 76/1 & …)

so when science discovers all or some of the wonderful mechanisms that may be serving all of these creation techniques,
we do not get dismayed as most of these evangelicals unfortunately do,
but on the contrary, we get even more excited and praise the wisdom of our Lord. (36/82) (21/30 & 51/47) (21/30 & 71/13-14 & 14/19 & 76/1 & …)
and we do call everyone on earth to this magnificent God, through His magnificent Word, (without using any force or imposing our Religion on anyone. 2/256)

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This contention that nobody has seen evolution occurring further ignores the overwhelming evidence that evolution has taken place and is continuing to occur. The annual changes in influenza viruses and the emergence of bacteria resistant to antibiotics are both products of evolutionary forces. Another example of ongoing evolution is the appearance of mosquitoes resistant to various insecticides, which has contributed to a resurgence of malaria in Africa and elsewhere. The transitional fossils that have been found in abundance since Darwin’s time reveal how species continually give rise to successor species that, over time, produce radically changed body forms and functions. It also is possible to directly observe many of the specific processes by which evolution occurs. Scientists regularly do experiments using microbes and other model systems that directly test evolutionary hypotheses.

Creationists reject such scientific facts in part because they do not accept evidence drawn from natural processes that they consider to be at odds with the Bible.

To young Earth creationists, no amount of empirical evidence that the Earth is billions of years old is likely to refute their claim that the world is actually young but that God simply made it appear to be old.

== yes, with the same ill logic they may surely be thinking that: God must have put all of those fossil & genetic & molecular etc. abundant evolutionary evidences on earth,

= just to deceive these impious evolutionists!! that they believe it and go to hell,

= and just to test these highly pious evangelicals!!
that they utterly reject it and go directly to heaven.

(but please see again Matthew 4/10 & Mark 10/18 & Matthew 7/22-23 before a possible “sharp awakening” in the hereafter, before God and His honorable Servant Jesus.)

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However, the claims of intelligent design creationists are disproven by the findings of modern biology. Biologists have examined each of the molecular systems claimed to be the products of design and have shown how they could have arisen through natural processes. For example, in the case of the bacterial flagellum, there is no single, uniform structure that is found in all flagellar bacteria. There are many types of flagella, some simpler than others, and many species of bacteria do not have flagella to aid in their movement. Thus, other components of bacterial cell membranes are likely the precursors of the proteins found in various flagella. In addition, some bacteria inject toxins into other cells through proteins that are secreted from the bacterium and that are very similar in their molecular structure to the proteins in parts of flagella. This similarity indicates a common evolutionary origin, where small changes in the structure and organization of secretory proteins could serve as the basis for flagellar proteins. Thus, flagellar proteins are not irreducibly complex.

== our God does/can design everything through natural processes (the nature and all the laws governing it may only belong to our Lord in the first place 41/11),
whether it is as complex as flagella of bacterium
or as uncomplex as clouds in heaven.
but in both cases, our God does not give any evidence regarding His inspirational manipulation of these occurrences & creations. (17/44) (30/48)
but we may only see and believe in Him through the wonderful outcomes & amazing final products of these kind of inspirational creations. (36/82) (29/20 & 21/30 & 71/13-14) (77/20-22)
and nothing is “irreducibly complex” for our God; He can reduce it to its simplest elements and create it, without touching a hand to them, from their simplest forms to their most complex forms via His inspirational evolutionary manipulation/control. (29/20 & 21/30 & 71/13-14) but because this inspirational manipulation/control will never be perceived by our five senses (17/44 & 41/11), these occurrences will only be defined “random & spontaneous” occurrences in Scientific (= which is essentially based only on what is perceived by our five senses) standards. and in this regard, Science and Religion may continue as different Disciplines, but compatible with each other at the same time, if we can perceive this fundamentally important perspective. (Quran 36/82 = 29/20 & 21/30 & 51/47)
(21/30 & 71/13-14 & 76/1 & …) (77/20-22)

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Eyes in living mollusks. The octopus eye (bottom) is quite complex, with components similar to those of the human eye, such as a cornea, iris, refractive lens, and retina. Other mollusks have simpler eyes. The simplest eye is found in limpets (top), consisting of only a few pigmented cells, slightly modified from typical epithelial (skin) cells. Slit-shell mollusks (second from top) have a slightly more advanced organ, consisting of some pigmented cells shaped as a cup. Further elaborations and increasing complexity are found in the eyes of Nautilus and Murex, which are not as complex as the eyes of the squid and octopus.

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Evolutionary biologists also have demonstrated how complex biochemical mechanisms, such as the clotting of blood or the mammalian immune system, could have evolved from simpler precursor systems. With the clotting of blood, some of the components of the mammalian system were present in earlier organisms, as demonstrated by the organisms living today (such as fish, reptiles, and birds) that are descended from these mammalian precursors. Mammalian clotting systems have built on these earlier components.

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Existing systems also can acquire new functions. For example, a particular system might have one task in a cell and then become adapted through evolutionary processes for different use. The Hox genes (described in the box on page 30) are a prime example of evolution finding new uses for existing systems. Molecular biologists have discovered that a particularly important mechanism through which biological systems acquire additional functions is gene duplication. Segments of DNA are frequently duplicated when cells divide, so that a cell has multiple copies of one or more genes. If these multiple copies are passed on to offspring, one copy of a gene can serve the original function in a cell while the other copy is able to accumulate changes that ultimately result in a new function. The biochemical mechanisms responsible for many cellular processes show clear evidence for historical duplications of DNA regions.

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Also, science has a competitive element as well as a cooperative one. If one scientist clings to particular ideas despite evidence to the contrary, another scientist will attempt to replicate relevant experiments and will not hesitate to publish conflicting evidence. If there were serious problems in evolutionary science, many scientists would be eager to win fame by being the first to provide a better testable alternative. That there are no viable alternatives to evolution in the scientific literature is not because of vested interests or censorship but because evolution has been and continues to be solidly supported by evidence.

== but most (especially young earth) evangelicals still believe that they may completely defeat Big bang and Evolution(ary Creation) concepts, and bury it into the cartoon history forever in just one TV debate, but they are denied such a chance by the atheist & liberal media… (earthage.org)
what a “cartoon history” indeed!
your fathers may have already made the history before, a few times:

earth is center of universe,
because God Incarnate!! Jesus came & dwelled here!!
sun is rotating around earth,
because God Incarnate!! Jesus came & dwelled here!!

and so now you would like to make history again
in your fathers’ footsteps??

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sorry, but Jesus may not be with you again!
(matthew 4/10 & mark 10/18 & matthew 7/22-23)

YOU ARE STILL IN CUCKOO LAND MY BROTHER.

As people might not have the time to read for themselves many of my previous comments i will include them here again.

EVOLUTION BRO HAS BEEN PROVEN CONCLUSIVELY TO BE INVALID. If you insist otherwise you need to do the following:

(1) Prove that all of a sudden the wondrous cell is not incredibly complex and that mathematically it is possible for it to have come about by chance/coincidental and random processes.

(2) That the so-called king-pin of evolution, natural selection(the dressed up blind chance-based imaginary false deity of evolutionists) via mutations adds new beneficial information to the genes therby fuelling evolution.

(3) The cambrian Explosion never happened

(4) Thermodynamics supports evolution instead of burying it

(5) The fossil record supports it with innumerable examples of transitional forms as would have most certainly existed had it happened and therby conclusively proving it without any shadow of a doubt to “stubborn” people like me! All we have had so far is fakes, frauds, cartoons based on the imagination,speculation and deceptive fossil interpretations of an alleged few which evolutionists try to portray as such and not ONE SINGLE GENUINE exapmle of a transitional form.

(6) That the enormous info in DNA can be reduced to matter and explained in materialist terms which is ideoligically crucial to the evolutionist point of few

(7) That the images (see The secret beyond matter/Darwin’s Dilemma, the Soul by HY for more detail) seen at the back of the brain like in our dreams too can also be explained in material terms

(8) That the mainstreammedia for eg on the Discovery Channel, History Channel, National Geographic,Hollywood, news channels and various scientific journals have made all of the above present to the common people.Even if they were to do it in their typically circulatory and tautalogical style and engaging in verbal acrobatics. NOT EVEN THAT! THEY SIMPLY DO NOT WANT IT OUT IN THE OPEN

The following books contain the refutation of evolution and the propaganda that attempt to keep it alive on the agenda in the interest of ideological (materialism) reasons which are crucial to THE SECULAR WORLD ORDER(architects of are - freemasons)

THE DARK SPELL OF DARWINISM - How evolutionists twist the truth to deny God

ATLAS OF CREATION

EVOLUTION DECEIT

DARWINISM REFUTED

HOW FOSSILS OVERTURNED EVOLUTION

THE STONE AGE: A HISTORICAL LIE

THE ERRORS OF NAS

A DEFINITIVE REPLY TO EVOLUTIONIST PROPAGANDA

THE SECRET BEYOND MATTER

THE DISASTERS THAT DARWINISM BROUGHT TO HUMANITY

GLOBAL FREEMASONRY- THE ARCHITECTS OF SECULAR WORLD ORDER

TEMPLARS AND FREEMASONS

DARWINISM-WATCH.CO - To keep updated with the latest propaganda.

Any person that reads these books and many others and is sincere and objective can no longer truly believe in evolution and social darwinism.
It would serve that person as a wake-up call and correct that person’s world-view which is not how the media present it to us

I will give a list of teqniques which Darwanists employ to keep alive the illusion of evolution.

(1) They depict evolutionist scientists as very learned, superhuman individuals

(2) Those who accept the theory of evolution are presented as respected scientists; those who do not accept it are branded as conservatives

(3)They try to influence people by using scientific terms and concepts that laymen cannot understand

(4)In order not to break the spell of Darwinism, they themselves do not read, nor do they want their followers to read anything that criticizes them

(5) In order that the spell of Darwinism may not be broken, evolutionists keep their supporters from thinking

(6) They pass over questions about evidence for the collapse of the theory of evolution with dismissive responses and later give the impression that they have answered them

(7) Darwinists resort to every kind of rhetorical device to get people under their influence

(8) By continually repeating empty words as in a hypnotic spell, they try to put people’s logic to sleep

(9) They try to prove evolution on the evidence of irrelevant topics and dicoveries

(10) They use scientifically unwarranted topics and discoveries as proofs of evolution

(11) They try to spread the Darwinist spell by suggestions made by visual effects

(12) They try to make the public believe that to be a real scientist, one must accept the theory of evolution

For more detail and info on each of the headings above you can read for free on Harun Yayha ‘ The Dark spell of Darwinism’ How Darwinists twist the truth to turn people away from God

EVIDENCE FOR EVOLUTION WOULD HAVE BEEN PRESENTED A LONG TIME AGO. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED FACT INSTEAD OF A THEORY (A DISPROVEN ONE AT THAT) WHICH IT STILL IS.

I HAVE TOLD YOU MANY TIMES BEFORE THAT WHATEVER IS PRESENTED AND REFERRED TO AS EVIDENCE TURNS OUT TIME AND TIME AGAIN TO BE NO SUCH THING. IT HAS NO IMPORTANCE HOW RECENT THE \’EVIDENCE\’ OR PROPAGANDA IS , FOR THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE:

IMAGINATION + MUCH SPECULATION FUELLED BY VAIN,DESPERATE AND HOPELESS WISHFUL-THINKING VIA FALSE PROPAGANDA = THE FAIRY TALE OF EVOLUTION!

N.A.S has not ALL OF A SUDDEN resolved the quandary that the theory of evolution, at EVERY LEVEL, finds itself in! They like all other evolutionary organisations simply ignore the facts and carry on deceptively engaging in propagating via propaganda what has been proven to be a CLEAR-CUT FALSEHOOD AND MTYH.

LIFE DID NOT START FROM A CELL IN A PRIMORDIAL SOUP AND THEN PROGRESSIVELY WENT ON FROM SPECIES CHANGING INTO OTHER SPECIES AND SO ON.
THIS IS WHAT THE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE FROM THE MOLECULAR TO PALEONTOLOGY HAS CLEARLY SHOWN AND NO VERBAL ACROBATICS, DEMAGOGY AND DECEPTIVE PROPAGANDA CAN EVER CHANGE THIS REALITY.

DARWINISM-WATCH.COM WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED

BUT MY BROTHER UNFORTUNATELY YOU ARE SUBJECT TO MANY PSYCHOLOGICAL COMPLEXES WHICH PREVENT YOU FROM SEEING
OR RATHER ACCEPTING THE EVIDENT TRUTH.

IT IS SUCH A VAIN AND HOPELESS ENDEAVOUR TO CARRY ON INSISTING AND BELIEVING IN EVOLUTION THAT I AM CONVINCED YOU NOW KNOW INSIDE YOURSELF THAT IT IS NONSENCE AND THAT YOU DO NOT SINCERELY BELIEVE IN IT ANY LONGER.

I RECCOMEND READERS TO TAKE A LOOK AT ATLAS OF CREATION(letters of thankyou from education ministers, news articles etc) AND THE IMPACT IT HAS HAD IN FRANCE, BELGIUM, GERMANY ETC
ON HARUN YAYHA\’S WEBSITE

More vain attempts to try and dicredit an great, brave and truly heroic individual who has UTTERLY EXPOSED , REFUTED AND RUINED THE FAIRY TALE OF EVOLUTION.

So much so that Adnan Oktar has been sentenced to prison for alleged financial irregularities! (masons hand no doubt)

GO NOW AND CHECK HOW FOR 150 YEARS EVOLUTIONISTS HAVE RESORTED TO LIES, FABRICATIONS AND SCANDALS TO PROVE A MYTH AND THEN COMPARE THAT TO THE FEW FISHING LURES THAT MUPPETS GO ON ABOUT - and you will come to a solid conclusion: YOU ARE CLUTCHING AT STRAWS.

It is clearcut that your world-view has been ruined and you cannot stomach it but clinging to false hopes will only increase your humiliation.

Even if there are a few ‘dodgy’ pictures that does not take away the fact that the rest of the hundreds of pictures (with more atlases and public fossil exhibitions on the way!) PROVE AND MAKE THE POINT CONCLUSIVELY.

No verbal acrobatics, distracting the attention and referring to cowboy sites and links can manouveur your way out of it.

THE ATLAS OF CREATION IS NOW IN THE OPEN FREE ON THE INTERNET FOR THE SINCERE SEEKER OF THE TRUTH!

WHOEVER COMES TO KNOW OF THE SINISTER DECEPTION THAT IS EVOLUTION CAN NO LONGER SINCERELY AND CONFIDENTLY BELIEVE IN IT ANY LONGER.

IT IS ALL OVER