Comments on: Harun Yahya’s Islamic creationist book pops up in Scotland Religion, faith and ethics Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:25:07 +0000 hourly 1 By: Abdullah Korkmaz Tue, 12 May 2009 10:20:47 +0000 Mr. Oktar proved Collapse of Evolution Theory with 100 million fossils. If you have any transitional fossil or form, you should bring and show this fossils to everybody…
God has not need to evolution for creation!

By: hytham Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:49:47 +0000 yes there are no transitional forms, yes there are no useful mutations, yes there is a big difference between the dna of man and apes. the reason why evoluotion is accepted by people in the west is that they read the bible and find things which contradicts with science so people are hesitant to believe that this is god’s word. i invite you to read about islam ad the quran you will find that both evoluotion and christianity are not the truth and that the only truth is islam. come to where you can find peace that people are looking to find allover the world.

By: Kayleb M. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:19:50 +0000 There are some 100 million fossils belonging to 250,000 different species have been unearthed, not even one supports Darwinism. Each one of the fossils discovered, belongs to fully formed and flawless organisms. Were evolutionists’ claims true, a large part out of so many fossils should belong to “intermediate life forms,” though not a single one actually does.

By: garry doyler Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:10:12 +0000 If you are right and evolution is undeniable? Then what is this rush and fuss about a colorful book? If evolution is a fact, then why children can’t be taught creation alongside evolution at schools? Because you know and we all know that once a person is well educated, it is impossible for him/her to believe in evolution. Just as we saw in the example of Francis Collins. Genome Project was one of the front runners of the scientific world of this decade. As Francis Collins stated; “it is impossible for DNA to have come into being by chance, and now I believe.” He is no more an atheist and evolutionist. Not only scientific world, majority of the people in the world see that evolution has been a great deceit in the history of science.

If evolution was a fact then why did the evolutionists resort to frauds for decades to prove the theory? They suggested that a skull discovered in 1912 bear Piltdown in England belonged to an “ape-man.” This fossil, the skull of which exhibited human features and the jaw those of an orang utan, was displayed in the famous British Museum for 40 years. However, it was finally exposed as a forgery in 1953. The fossil had been produced by evolutionists who combined a human skull and an orangutan jaw and used chemicals to give it an aged appearance. And this was only one of them. Why did they say for years that coelacanth was the intermediate form to emerge onto dry land although the fish is a living species of deep water fish?

By: FrederickK Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:11:34 +0000 RICHARD DAWKINS SEEMS TO HAVE CAUGHT THE HOOK!
Harun Yahya’s including a picture of a model insect alongside a fossil caddis fly in his Atlas of Creation was an excellent thing from his point of view. The insect, a model of which appears in the Atlas, is in any case still living today. Living specimens are identical in appearance to the model. There are pictures of the living insect all over the internet. There is also no such picture in other editions of the book, and original pictures of the insect are provided instead. Dawkins seized in this as an error and published it on his web site. In the wake of that, various newspapers and websites that imagined this to be a great discovery immediately carried the report on Dawkins’ web site. The fact is, however, that contrary to what Dawkins thinks, the issue is not one that works against Harun Yahya. The Atlas of Creation was about how an insect living today, pictures of which can be obtained from a great many sites on the internet, has never changed over the last 25 million years. THANKS TO DAWKINS, MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAVE NOW VISITED THE ATLAS OF CREATION WEB SITE, AND HAVE LEARNED HOW THIS ORGANISM HAS REMAINED UNCHANGED FOR MILLIONS OF YEARS.

By: Fraz Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:16:23 +0000 HE IS NOT PROMOTING THE REAL ISLAM !!!!!

By: Fraz Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:15:01 +0000 BEWARE OF HARUN YAHYA – AN IDOLATOR
He is very evil !!! Don’t read his books !!

By: evangelical Intelligent Disguise! Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:02:05 +0000 i want to relate here some more “eye opening” comments from another much respected theistic Scholar
regarding a highly-shrewd recent Evangelical
anti-evolutionary propaganda film in US.

By Kenneth R. Miller
a biology professor at Brown University
May 8, 2008

AMERICAN science is in trouble, and if you wonder why, just go to the movies. Popular culture is gradually turning against science, and Ben Stein’s new movie, “Expelled,” is helping to push it along.

“Intelligent Design,” the relabeled, repackaged form of American creationism, has always had a problem. It just can’t seem to produce any evidence.
To scientists, the reasons for this are obvious.
To conservative Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer, Intelligent Design is nothing more than a “phony theory.” No data, no science, no experiments, just an attempt to sneak a narrow set of -evangelical- religious views into US classrooms.

Advocates of Intelligent Design needed a story to explain why the idea has been a nonstarter within the scientific community, and Ben Stein has given it to them. The story line is that Intelligent Design advocates are persecuted and suppressed.
“Expelled” tells of this terrible campaign against free expression, and mocks the pretensions of the
closed-minded scientific elite supposedly behind it.

== if you visit many Evangelical (young or old earth together) fanatic anti-evolutionary web sites, we may see the advertisement of this film all over their sites,
and if we take a few more minutes to read their ideology, we may also see their real “persecuting and suppressive” attitudes against all other religionists & scientists who do not share their Evangelical views,
and “free expression” may not be an option there, not at all!

but on the contrary, they have all the opportunities to present their Evangelical “anti-evolutionary” instant Creation model freely, in every platform they may want
in US,
but only not in SCIENCE classes; because it is absolutely UN-SCIENCTIFIC! (June 30, 10:56)

There are many things wrong with this movie. One example: Viewers are told that Dr. Richard Sternberg lost his job at the Smithsonian Institution because he edited a paper favorable to Intelligent Design. Wrong.
Sternberg wasn’t even employed by the Smithsonian (he had no job to lose), and had resigned as journal editor six months before the paper was published. In fact, the irony is that neither Steinberg nor any of the other people featured as martyrs in “Expelled” lost jobs as a result of their advocacy of Intelligent Design, while many others who supported evolution have.
In 2007, Chris Comer, the director of science education for Texas schools, was fired for having done nothing more than forwarding an e-mail announcing a pro-evolution seminar.

== here is the basics of these Evangelical Crusaders’ expansion manual:

1- act as innocent as “lambs” when you do not have power.
2- be as shrewd as “foxes” when you get equal power.
3- act as wild as “tigers” when you do get the power.

The movie also uses interviews with avowed atheists like Richard Dawkins, author of “The God Delusion,” to argue that scientific establishment is vehemently anti-God. Never mind that 40 percent of the members of the American Association for the Advancement of Science profess belief in a personal God. Stein, avoiding these 50,000 people, tells viewers that “Darwinists” don’t allow scientists to even think of God.

== as i already pointed out above, according to hidden Evangelical ideology: anyone who do not accept that
“Jesus has come as a perfect God Incarnate!! human-being to –instantly & anti evolutionarily created– perfect Godlike!! human-beings” must definitely be under the influence of Anti Christ, in the first place. (June 18, 9:06)
so to put these kind of all theistic Scientists and Believers who basically believe in and support Evolutionary Creation concept (and by doing this they are –intentionally or unintentionally– undermining this “Man being made –instantly & anti evolutionarily– in the Image of God” literal teaching of Evangelism June 7, 9:07)
in the same camp with “Anti God & Anti Christ” atheists and never mention them as “believers” may just fit well with their hidden Evangelical Crusader Agenda! (please in this regard, see some critical writings above:
(June 7, 9:07 & June 18, 9:06)

Puzzled, the editors of Scientific American asked Mark Mathis, the film’s co-producer, why he and Stein didn’t interview such people, like Francis Collins (head of the Human Genome Project), Francisco Ayala, or myself. Mathis cited me by name, saying “Ken Miller would have confused the film unnecessarily.”
In other words, showing a scientist who accepts both God and evolution would have confused their story line.

== yes, it would absolutely confuse their Evangelical indoctrination, “unnecessarily!”

Despite these falsehoods, by far the film’s most outlandish misrepresentation is its linkage of Darwin with the Holocaust. A concentration camp tour guide tells Stein that the Nazis were practicing “Darwinism,” and that’s that.
Never mind those belt buckles proclaiming Gott mit uns (God is with us),
the toxic anti-Semitism of Martin Luther,
the ghettoes and murderous pogroms in Christian Europe centuries before Darwin’s birth.
No matter. It’s all the fault of evolution.

== to understand the possible real heavenly answer
–taught to us by our almighty God– against this
shrewd Evangelical anti-evolutionary propaganda tool,
please see one critical writing above: (June 9, 12:38)

Why is all this nonsense a threat to science?
The reason is Stein’s libelous conclusion that science is simply evil. In an April 21 interview on the Trinity Broadcast Network, Stein called the Nazi murder of children “horrifying beyond words.” Indeed.
But what led to such horrors? Stein explained: “that’s where science in my opinion, this is just an opinion, that’s where science leads you.
Love of God and compassion and empathy leads you to a very glorious place. Science leads you to killing people.”

== and also the fact that especially some well-known jewish persons being used in this Evangelical anti-evolutionary propaganda film and holocaust being used as a block against Evolution(ary Creation) idea
giving me the impression that perhaps these Evangelical Crusaders thus especially want to add some more jewish people in their Anti Christ (= MESSIAH DAJJAAL) army by this film.

because God Incarnate!! Jesus will come down to Jerusalem among jewish people in near future, to establish the “Evangelical World Order” for eternity,
from there and also US,
according to these fanatic anti-evolutionary Evangelical Crusaders,
so to make the preparations beforehand among the jews must be “vital” for them now!

According to Stein, science leads you to “killing people.”
Not to cures and vaccines, not to a deeper understanding of nature, not to wonders like computers and cellphones, and certainly not to a better life. Nope.
Science is murder.

“Expelled” is a shoddy piece of propaganda that props up the failures of Intelligent Design by playing the victim card. It deceives its audiences, slanders the scientific community, and contributes mightily to a climate of hostility to science itself.
Stein is doing nothing less than helping turn a generation of American youth away from science. If we actually come to believe that science leads to murder, then we deserve to lose world leadership in science.
In that sense, the word “expelled” may have a different and more tragic connotation for our country than Stein intended.

Kenneth R. Miller,
a biology professor at Brown University,
is author of “Only a Theory – Evolution and the Battle for America’s Soul,”
which will be published next month.

By: evangelical Intelligent Disguise! Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:23:42 +0000 here i want to relate some “eye opening” comments from dr. Francisco Ayala (a respected member of National Academy of Sciences, US) against this –evangelical based anti evolutionary– Intelligent Design movement in US:

New York Times:

Dr. Ayala, who is 74, was born in Madrid and studied theology at the Pontifical Faculty of San Esteban in Salamanca before coming to the United States in 1961, for graduate study in genetics at Columbia.
From there he went to Rockefeller University, then Davis and then to Irvine. He became a United States citizen in 1971. He and his wife, an ecologist who works to encourage conservation efforts by resorts in tropical areas, have two grown sons.

Dr. Ayala said he remained surprised at how many Americans believe the theory of evolution is contrary to belief in God, or that the theory is erroneous or even fraudulent. In fact, there is no credible scientific challenge to it as an explanation for the complexity and diversity of life on earth.

Sometimes, he says, people come to his talks determined to challenge him, usually by citing familiar
-intelligent design- creationist arguments
—that a body part like the bacterial tail, or flagellum, is too complex to have arisen through evolution, or that scientists lied when they demonstrated that moths in England evolved to be darker as the Industrial Revolution covered their native trees with soot.

But he said he had yet to encounter a challenge he could not meet. When people ask about the bacterial flagellum, for example, “I bring up that by now it has been worked out in great detail how the basic parts of the bacterial flagellum have evolved independently and exist independently,” he said.

And he dismisses the argument that it is only fair to teach both sides of the evolution/creationism controversy. “We don’t teach alchemy along with chemistry,” he said. “We don’t teach witchcraft along with medicine. We don’t teach astrology with astronomy.”

== the ones who understand and accept that initial basic perspective –cited in the end of above writing (July 30, 10:56)– regarding this Evolution & Creation teaching issue have no such problems or requests in this respect;
because every Science class is already a Creation class for them in their souls.
and because Science must be the common ground for all of us –theist & atheist & agnostic etc.– no one should request that their specific creation or uncreation philosopy must be taught alongside with Science. and personally i would never want to be imposed or implied with any evangelical or hindu or buddhist or atheist etc. specific creation or uncreation philosopy in Science classes,
let us investigate and learn –as much as possible– all the proggressive mechanisms in Nature and all its workings and then let us choose to believe who may be
behind it –christian God or islamic Allah or hindu Gods or Nature etc.– in our souls individually.
and let us freely present our related evidences, if there is any, in this issue out of Science classes to each other, anytime we want, in appropriate platforms.
but if we believe that there is no proggressive
mechanisms in Nature and no workings, but everything is done instantly by the “hands” of a magician God in just 6 days and 6000 years ago, then we should not come to Science classes at all, because there is no Science for us then, in the first place! we should just sit and make our probability/chance calculations and then boast in our souls: no Big bang creation, no Evolution(ary Creation), long live the “hands” of our skillful instantly-creative evangelical magician Father!

He said he was saddened when he saw the embrace of evolution identified with, as he put it, “explicit atheism,” as in the books of the evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins or other writers on science and faith.

== the reason why many evangelicals always are deliberately trying to associate Evolution idea only with “atheism” and some “atheist scientists”
and they never want to mention “theism” and many “theistic scientists” who basically support this great Scientific concept of our time
may perhaps be found in some of the above critical writings: (June 7, 9:07) (June 21, 7:28)

Neither the existence nor nonexistence of God is susceptible to scientific proof, Dr. Ayala said, and equating science with the abandonment of religion “fits the prejudices” of advocates of intelligent design and other creationist ideas.

“Science and religion concern nonoverlapping realms of knowledge,” he writes in the new book. “It is only when assertions are made beyond their legitimate boundaries that evolutionary theory and religious belief appear to be antithetical.”

It is important that Dr. Ayala “is not a religion-basher,” Dr. Scott said, “because -evangelical-creationists always showcase the religion-bashers in science as if they speak for all scientists. They clearly do not speak for Francisco and many others.”

from New York Times, April 2008

By: Intelligent Disguise! Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:56:53 +0000 and when this Evangelical anti-evolutionary Creationism ideology has failed to produce the much “desired effects” on majority of US people,
after a long battle (mainly beginning in 1925 with Scopes Trial) in USA,
some of them recently repackaged themselves and came with Evangelical anti-evolutionary Intelligent Design ideology.
and they claimed that this has nothing to do with Evangelical anti-evolutionary Creationism,
but it is based on pure logic & reason & Science.
so here i want to give some valuable clues about the real identities of these kind of some “real” Scientists which have raised some hard-core objections against Evolution(ary Creation) idea on behalf of yet this “unidentified” Intelligent Designer;

and we may already know how skillful these Evangelicals can be in political & cultural etc. arenas
in packaging themselves in what they really are not:

= they are “liberators” (not Invaders)
= they are “givers” (not Takers oil)
= they are “warriors of freedom” (not Crusaders of Evangelism)…

and so now it shouldn’t be much of a surprise that
= they are absolutely “intelligent designists” (not Evangelical Creationists)…

New York Times:

The Discovery (Intelligent Design) Institute says 128 signers –against Evolution(ary Creation) concept– hold degrees in the biological sciences and 26 in biochemistry. That leaves more than 350 nonbiologists, including Dr. Tour, Dr. Picard and Dr. Skell.

Of the 128 biologists who signed, few conduct research that would directly address the question of what shaped the history of life.

Of the signers who are evangelical Christians, most defend their doubts on scientific grounds but also say that evolution runs against their religious beliefs.

== so we should never harbor any doubts, from the beginning, about the credibility & sincerity of the objections of many of these “real” Scientists here.
because they are first absolutely Scientists, then also by coincidence absolutely Evangelicals!

and again although the hard-core main financial backers of this anti evolutionary Intelligent Design Institute
are all well known rich Evangelical elite in USA,
we should again not let Satan interfere with our Angelic reception here!

Several said that their doubts began when they increased their involvement with Christian churches.
Some said they read the Bible literally and doubt not only evolution but also findings of geology and cosmology that show the universe and the earth to be billions of years old.

== these are still those same absolutely “real” Scientists!

Scott R. Fulton, a professor of mathematics and computer science at Clarkson University in Potsdam, N.Y., who signed the petition, said that the argument for intelligent design was very interesting and promising.
He said he thought his religious belief was not particularly relevant in how he judged intelligent design. “It probably influences in the sense in that it makes me very interested in the questions,” he said. “When I see scientific evidence that points to God, I find that encouraging.”

== is not Evolution(ary Creation) concept –progressing under the control of God within basic inspirational mechanisms like mutations & natural selection & selective pressure etc.– a highly Intelligent Plan & Evidence that has already pointed to God for so many people –Christians & Muslims & Jews & Others– on earth? so why push the “unidentified” Intelligent Designer here?
does he really have any other mechanisms to work with,
or is he a pure Magician who hates all evolutionary mechanisms and worked “evangelical wonders” only in 6 normal days, just 6000 years ago?

(and please see here again one critical writing above, which may be revealing to us the real “Evolutionary Intelligent Designer” who has been working “real wonders” until now, via His pre-established heavenly and earthly natural laws & evolutionary mechanisms proggressively.
Quran 7/185 & 41/11 & 30/48 & 35/43 & …
Quran 21/30 & 71/13-14 & 6/133 & 76/1 & 14/19 & …
(June 17, 3:58)

Roger J. Lien, a professor of poultry science at Auburn, said he received a copy of the petition from Christian friends.
“I stuck my name on it,” he said. “Basically, it states what I believe.”

Another signer is Dr. Gregory J. Brewer, a professor of cell biology at the Southern Illinois University medical school. Like other skeptics, he readily accepts what he calls “microevolution,” the ability of species to adapt to changing conditions in their environment. But he holds to the opinion that science has not convincingly shown that one species can evolve into another.

== our almighty God who is showing us this “Micro Evolution,” as it is occurring in front of our eyes,
via His –in our belief– inspirationally controlled natural laws & evolutionary mechanisms (like mutations & selective pressure & natural selection etc.) CAN of course do the “Macro Evolution” then with the same laws & mechanisms, with the same ease.
and He may have already informed us in His wondrous Word that He has done it many times & will be doing it, whenever He wants, backwards or forwards. (2/65 X 6/133) (29/20 = 21/30 & 71/13-14 & 6/133 & 76/1 & 14/19)
and many Scientific evidences –transitional forms– may also be strongly supporting this Religious information.
if we are not willing to see, however, these credible evidences for some specific “ill-reasons,” in the first place, (June 7, 9:07)
then neither God nor Science may also NOT be willing to convince us anytime soon. (29/20 = 21/30 & 71/13-14 & 6/133 = 6/109-110)

“I think there’s a lot of problems with (heavenly or earthly) evolutionary dogma,” said Dr. Brewer, who also does not accept the scientific consensus that the universe is billions of years old.
“Scientifically, I think there are other possibilities, one of which would be intelligent design. Based on faith, I do believe in the creation account.”

== you may perhaps unfortunately be believing, mr. evangelical priest/doctor, in the “literal evangelical interpretation” of that (heavenly or earthly) creation account,
and i think there may perhaps be a lot of problems with that Evangelical anti-evolutionary “Intelligent Design” dogma, in the first place!

(from The New York Times, 2006)

== and other than these there may of course be some non-evangelical “intelligent designists” in this movement among these fundamentalist evangelicals,
and for now they may be claiming that they accept the billions of years old universe and life beginning about 3.5 billion years ago on earth with simple organisms then to complex in general until now.
but they also claim that mutations & natural selection etc. cannot do the evolutionary job, there must be an “Intelligent Intervention” beyond & above this, at many points.

but as i tried to explain in one of the critical writings above (June 17, 3:58)
there may be a major flaw in this approach, because:
our almighty God of course CAN do the Evolutionary Creation job, whenever He wills so, both in “Micro” and “Macro” scale with these mechanisms, from simple to complex, in stages with ease, in the first place. (Quran 71/13-14 & 14/19 & 11/44 & …)
because all mutations –whether they are harmful or beneficial– and then natural selection are already intentional “Intelligent Interventions” from our God for us,
but because God’s special manipulation/control over all of these mutations and then natural selection processes can never be observed by our five senses (17/44 & 41/11 & 11/44 & …) these are only called random & spontaneous etc. processes in Scientific (which is based only what we can perceive with our five senses) standards. so in short, if you have any other mechanisms now to propose regarding the Evolutionary Creation, please do so,
but if not never claim that God cannot do the job with these mechanisms, because He really CAN, whenever He wills so. (36/82 = 21/30 & 71/13-14 & 14/19 & 76/1 & …) (17/44 & 11/44 & …)

and so these intelligent designists’ basic claim that:
“yes, Micro evolution can occur through random & spontaneous mutations and then natural selection etc.
but Macro evolution needs a “special intervention”
may basically be a Nonsensical/Flawed approach in the first place in our theological view….

because they have no concept of God’s continous “Inspirational Manipulation/Control” over all universe and all the things
and all the –micro and macro– processes & changes therein, at every time. (Quran 17/44 & 41/11 & …) (71/13-14 & 14/19…)

nothing is random or spontaneous etc. for us,
but Micro and Macro evolution are both equally the similar inspirational “Intelligent Creative Acts” of our Almighty God for us;
they are only random or/and spontaneous processes within Scientific terms (because it is only based on what we can perceive with our five senses),
but inspirational or/and creative processes within Religious terms (because it is based on what we can perceive with our five senses, and also what we cannot perceive with our five senses above and on top of this).

if we can understand and accept this highly important basic perspective –taught to us by our almighty God– we may have no problem with the compatibility issue of Science and Religion anymore.
we can accept then science as Science, and religion as Religion.
and we never confuse or try to mix them up into each other for the sake of an Evangelical “unintelligent
undesign” Crusader agenda.