Is “God Particle” the right term for massive mystery in physics?

April 9, 2008

Peter Higgs at CERN, 7 April 2008/poolOne of the most brilliant simplifications I’ve ever come across is the term “the God Particle.” Physicists think this subatomic speck of matter, if it is ever found, could explain the mysterious code at the origin of the physical world. To know this would be to “know the mind of God,” as Einstein wanted to do. The Nobel Prize winning physicist Leon Lederman wrote a book with that name 15 years ago that was so interesting that even a physics klutz like myself (I almost failed it in high school…) read and enjoyed it.

It turns out, though, that the physicist who launched the hunt for this elusive particle doesn’t like its nickname. “It embarrasses me,” Peter Higgs said in Geneva this week at a news conference our correspondent Robert Evans attended. “Although I am not a believer myself, it’s a misuse of terminology that might offend some people.”

Higgs, now 78, first proposed a theory of the particle officially knows as the Higgs boson 40 years ago. CERN, the giant nuclear research centre at the French-Swiss border near Geneva, is building a vast underground particle collider to try to find it. “The likelihood is that the particle will show up pretty quickly … I’m more than 90 percent certain that it will,” Higgs said after visiting the collider due to start working early next year.

Visitors inspect the new 27km long underground particle collider at CERN, 16 Oct 2004/Denis BalibouseSo the term “the God particle” may be coming to the religion blogosphere pretty soon. Instead of doing the homework and writing the essay, I’ll let others explain what it is — here are some good examples at National Geographic and Wired and a cartoon here.

Lederman, by the way, also seemed of two minds about calling the Higgs boson the “God particle.”

As he put it in his book:

“This boson is so central to the state of physics today, so crucial to our final understanding of the structure of matter, yet so elusive, that I have given it a nickname: the God Particle. Why God Particle? Two reasons. One, the publisher wouldn’t let us call it the Goddam Particle, though that might be a more appropriate title, given its villainous nature and the expense it is causing. And two, there is a connection, of sorts, to another book, a much older one…

The God Particle, by Leon LedermanLederman then goes on to quote Genesis 11:1-9 , the Tower of Babel story about mankind dispersing. Finding the God Particle, he says, would be like undoing the confusion that followed.

Even if the physicists have qualms, I think the term “God Particle” is so expressive that I’m glad Higgs didn’t get his way. I know there are those out there who don’t agree, who do and who don’t say. There are also deep implications for science and religion. Still, some things are just so awesome that a reasonable comparison with the divine seems to me like a good way to put something so hard to understand into perspective.

Do you think it’s offensive?

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Why do people still believe in evolution when it was disproven over 140 years ago by Louis Pasteur. Pasteur proved that life comes from life, life cannot come from nonlife. Omne vivum e vivo. Evolution requires spontaneous generation in order to have the “first cell”.

Like Pasteur said in Sorbonne, Paris (1864): “It is dumb, dumb since these experiments were begun several years ago…Never will the doctrine of spontaneous generation recover from the mortal blow of this simple experiment! “No, there is now no circumstances in which it could be affirmed that microscopic beings come into the world without germs, without parents, similar to themselves.”

Why do evolutionists, who have yet to prove that Pasteur was wrong, continue to believe a disproven theory? They do fallow his proof when it comes to medicine and pasteurization of food. so they know the proof to be correct. They (the evolutionist) just chooses to believe in what they know to be impossible.

Posted by justin | Report as abusive

Yes Religion does offend me!

Posted by Billy Boson | Report as abusive

This ise’nt about religion. It is about someone trying to play God. It has been said that we all have the god particle in us, good luck when people start to jack it around…smiling…what’s next????

Posted by Darcy Drogorub | Report as abusive

That Pasteur could not produce something one would consider “life” from something one would consider “non-life” is not sufficient to disprove evolution — it only indicates that a more detailed experiment may be needed.

After all, it was only in the middle of last century that it was shown that a mix of primitive non-living gases, in a flask with high voltage electrodes, could produce the basic compounds that lead to amino acids… Pasteur’s time had little to no knowledge of the internal workings of cells — and don’t even consider the nature of a virus (which many do not consider to be “living” — a free virus is just a chemical coating around a chunk of rna or dna, with nothing available to take in energy or process matter… but let a virus contact a cell wall, and chemical reactions dissolve the coating, drawing the rna/dna into the cell, where the cell’s own production systems start treating the virus as if it were its own).

I’m not sure how this thread went from cosmology to evolution, but evolution is probably the hardest theory to disprove: lack of evidence does not disprove something — if one seeks to disprove evolution, one must produce overwhelming AND TESTABLE evidence of an alternative process that covers the same situations. We see evolution in action (look at all the disease causing “bugs” that are becoming tolerant and immune to formerly effective antibiotics); we can trace changes through the fossil record. We can produce components of “life” (amino acids, etc.) through chemical reactions… That we haven’t produced a strand of functional rna from a raw chemical soup /yet/ does not prove it can never happen.

A counter to evolution is going to have to explain why germs become resistant to antibiotics, how snarly wild silver foxes can become tame floppy eared pets in just a few generations (and why this has not occurred in the wild), explain the changes seen throughout history in the fossil record… and at the same time explain why — given time and energy, some primordial mass of chemicals can never produce components of life… And then offer up testable experiments to support this counter proposal

Posted by Wulfraed | Report as abusive

Perhaps it should be called the “Lederman Particle Theory”, and recognize that before we start calling God believers idiots and forcing this on them in school. LET’S FIND IT FIRST.

I’m Catholic, and not offended. I think if anything it shows the lack of insight on the person naming it, although he sounds remorseful (albeit for the wrong reason).

God is independent of particles, so the term is contradictory. That’s the only thing that bothers me about it.

Why do they keep naming things that they haven’t proven exist yet, and neglect to attach “theory”? Sounds like faith.

Reminds me of the “Archaeoraptor”.

The creationist Edward Blyth discussed natural selection 25 years before Darwin, but recognized that it was a conservative, not a creative, force. In other words that natural selection has been used to show creation for 25 years longer then it has been clamed to help evolution.

The reason that germs become resistant to antibiotics is that they loose DNA and thereby loose what the antibiotic reacted with. This can be by loosing a pump in the cell wall, change a control gene, or loose the enzyme the antibiotic atacked.

A loss of information is not evolution (in the molicules to man sense) but is natural slection as shown and predicted by the creationists. Dogs are artificial selection so that this would not happen in the wild but as man chose.

And like I said before evolutionists have yet to show that Pasteur was wrong. They continue to hope and insist that maybe, eventualy, posibly, sometime in we MAY be able to show that he was wrong. That seems to me to take a lot of faith to belive in something that the evidence goes agianst.

Oh by the way most of those experiments that you are talking about also created cyanide and other key eliments to Embalming Fluid. That sounds like the perfect environment to create life?

Posted by justin | Report as abusive

Many important scientists (such as Einstein) do not believe in the stories told in the Bible, they do not believe Jesus to have walked the earth and performed miracles. Most do not believe that God can change anything in the world as it is right now. They simply acknowledge the fact that science can not explain the fact that the universe has always existed. Somehow the universe IS. human logic implies that a fact has a cause so we search for a cause of the universe. Einstein and Newton and many others choose to call this ’cause’ God. I am a university student and last semester we had a course about religion, given by a (religious) professor in theology. He pointed out that people like Einstein are not called theists but deists. They do not belief in the God of any particular religion that had a son who walked the earth and whom you could pray to etc, but more vaguely a ‘something’, a big mystery which can be seen as the cause of the universe but which is currently disconnected from the universe. Deists believe in something but they do not believe in praying, do not believe that ‘god’ loves you or encourages you to do anything at all. Einstein stated that ethics is a purely human affair, with no connection to religion and I believe this to be true. I do not believe there are any religious people who help their fellow man because they’ll go to hell if they don’t. You help because you care, not because you have to, wether you’re religious or not.

Please do not mix religion and science. Science is a different approach to life and the universe than religion. Science is based upon experiments and rational building of theories upon previous theories. If creationism wishes to be a scientifically based theory, then it should step out of the realm of the religous and into the realm of science. In the realm of science the Bible and God mean nothing. Accept that, or if you can’t, stay out of science, believe in your theory as much as they like but do not call it a scientific theory. Creationstists who are willing to take the scientific approach are more than welcome to write papers and conduct experiments that proof their theories fit in with the rest of the scientific theories.

A theory is really just a theory, not a fact. For example Newton’s theory of gravity was corrected by Einsteins theory of general relativity. Note that word: “corrected”, because it’s a key word. A hypothesis is an educated and professional guess. A hypothesis becomes an accepted theory when all (or a large majority) of experiments fit into it. for example Newton’s law of gravity gives correct results for just about any movement or action on earth. However when you apply it to high-energy, high-speed or atomic-scale problems it fails. So Newton’s theory is ‘wrong’. But it is not wrong like it is a wrong of the old egyptians to say that the sun rises because a scarabee is rolling it up into sight on the edge of the earth…
A theory is always just a theory because to be absolutely sure you’d have to test the theory on every particle in the universe at any time past,present,future..and that’s kinda hard :-) So yes, existing scientific theories can be wrong, but they’re hardly ever totally wrong and it’s not because someone comes up with a new theory, that he automatically deserves our attention. As Stephen Jay Gould put it so nicely: “In science, ‘fact’ can only mean ‘confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.’ I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms.”

As to the original subject of this discussion: “The mind of God” is just a poetic name for something that is ungraspable, but believed to contain the explanation for many important questions. As stated before, many scientists do not even believe in a god that has any human attributes such as a ‘mind’.

To all religious people: I have no problem respecting the fact that you believe in God and do not believe that you are any more wrong or right than I am. I hope however that you too can accept that many people do not believe in a god and do not think of us as being wrong.
And to all non-believers: Please accept that some people do believe in a God and respect that. Religion has no place in science, but to many people religion is important for their spiritual life and we have no right to judge over that as long as it has no negative implications for the outside world (such as religious-based terrorism)

Posted by Ronin aka SavageFX | Report as abusive

it is very unhelpful to talk about the god particle, just like (dare i say it) Einstein got himself in a needless muddle by ever mentioning God. Of course Einstein did not believe a theist God who answers prayers, cares who you sleep with, what you eat and on what day. I dont think Einstein even meant a deist God, he used God to signify the wonder of the universe in a slightly Spinozian sense. This was a mistake and the word should not be used for secular enquiry, like in the case of the particle search.

Posted by Mark | Report as abusive

There’s nothing offensive about the term, at least to this non-believer, and it does convey some of the fundamentality and mystique around the search. But there seems to be fallout from the references to divinity in physics – the references are ripe to be picked and misappropriated by people who want scientific support for theist agendas.

Posted by Kieran | Report as abusive

To SavageFx – I accord people of faith the respect that they deserve, which is exactly the same respect that I accord to those who believe that the world is flat or that the sun goes around the earth. I can’t see why any respect at all is due to people who purvey fiction as fact.

Posted by Kieran | Report as abusive

First of all I would like to let you know my philosophical views on God would tend to be deist, but changes with circumstance like any open minded human. This Creationist Argument that was created by fundamental Christians in America, I think is flawed. No one can make me believe that the world is 6000 years old. When it comes to evolution, Darwin or Dawkins can’t explain to you the evolution of the eye either. My view is that both theories are bogus, they are both incorrect. Also, Darwinism is responsible for Eugenics.God particle?don’t know enough to comment!

Posted by Trevor Login | Report as abusive

I believe the rebirth of the Creationist argument was created to irate secular and Atheist people plus other Christians who don’t believe in latter day doctrines.
Oscar Wilde wrote ‘to understand how stupid someone is, Ask them the unanswerable?’The Creationist will give you an answer.
Why do Atheist and strict secular people engage in an debate were their view is blasphemous to their audiences ear?Why do Creationist bring their argument to the scientific table and not to Theologians? This debate from the foundation is complete rubbish and incoherent. thats my view and thank you.

Posted by Trevor Login | Report as abusive

I do not find the term “God particle” offensive, merely unhelpful. Like most other references to God it helps obscure rather than explain.

Posted by Roy Brown | Report as abusive

There are so many gods. Thor is one. The monkey god is another from chinese lore. Shiva? I personally like the hindu ones, so colourful. It’s okay to name something after a myth. We have planets and stars named after gods, why not a subatomic particle?

Posted by veggiedude | Report as abusive

“Creationstists who are willing to take the scientific approach are more than welcome to write papers and conduct experiments that proof their theories fit in with the rest of the scientific theories.”-SavageFx

Creationists use the scientific method. They, afterall, are the ones who invented it. However, they are denied publicaction of their research, denied tenure, denied research grants all because they challenge darwin.

The documentary “Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed” chronicles how Darwin-dissenters have been ruthlessly expelled, or otherwise persecuted, in their professions. This movie does not promote creationist or even intelligent design theories(they are different just ask them). This movie goes to theaters in the USA on the 18th.

All of these questions posted here to mock the creationist have long been answered. The answer and the evidence suports ceation. You just need to look at rhe research. If you want to see the answers to most of the anti-creationist questions that have been getting posted here go to http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/are a/qa.asp But only do this if you want to be chalanged in what you believe with the evidence.

Posted by justin | Report as abusive

I read a few short pieces of the articles on above-mentioned website. The general point of one of the articles on the origin of life was: The chemical and physical processes that are required for life forming the darwinian way are not completely understood and some are only hypotheses, without any conclusive scientific proof.
Now, this might be true. I know that darwinism has quite a few open questions so up to this point the article could be right in saying that darwinism can’t be proved, because the causes can’t be scientifically proved. However, the writer than goes on to state that the only conclusion is that “The Creator” must have done it. This is however doing exactly the same as what he is telling the darwinist off for. He’s stating that a theory is true, without any scientific evidence of its causes. If darwinism is not acceptable if the chemical processes are not scientifically proven, then intelligent design is not acceptable if the existence of God is not proven scientifically.
Of course God probably can’t be proven to exist in a scientific, which is a very reason for denying funding into intelligent design research. If it is impossible to proof the correctness of your causes, then you can never be certain of anything in a theory.
So at the most, the conclusion of the article should be that neither darwinism nor intelligent design are proven theories and at this moment in time. To accept either one, you have to believe in something rather than knowing something. Either unexplained chemical processes or an intelligent creating God… Given this choice, I do not find it surprising that most scientists would rather stick with the unexplained chemistry than introducing a God into their theories.

Posted by SavageFX | Report as abusive

i dont read a lot about somethings like this one. because it makes me too curious that i might even find something strange due to curiousity. For me, as a Catholic myself, believes that God is all about SCIENCE, He is biology, He is physics, He is astronomy, He is history, He is everything that civilization had learned.

this partical collider stuff is a waste of money and they need to get rid of it cuz i dont feel like dieing any time soon …

… as long as finding the God particle does not create a hell on earth…

CERN predicts the creation of up to 1 micro black hole per second in the Large Hadron Collider and references the 1999 RHIC safety study as proof of safety. (But the 1999 RHIC safety study only ruled out any possibility of colliders creating micro black holes based on knowledge at that time.)

CERN’s web site predicts that micro black holes will evaporate. (But Hawking Radiation has been disputed by no less than 3 peer reviewed studies that found no basis in science for such conclusions).

CERN’s web site and Steven Hawking state that much greater energy cosmic ray impacts with Earth prove safety. (But higher energy cosmic ray impacts with stationary particles have net collision speeds less than the speed of light and send all particles created safely into space, while head-on collider collisions have net collision impact speeds at almost twice the speed of light and are designed to focus all the energy to a single point in space and particles created may be captured by Earth’s gravity).

CERN promised to create and release an new safety report before the end of 2007. (CERN’s LHC Safety Assessment Group has concluded that cosmic ray impacts do not prove safety and they do not assume that micro black holes will evaporate, but CERN never released any safety reports created by their LHC Safety Assessment Group.)

Professor Otto Rossler calculates that a single micro black hole could accrete the Earth is as few as 50 months and Dr. Rossler is world recognized as one of the most prestigious, most eminent, award winning scientists alive. (But CERN has not scientifically refuted his calculations that I am aware of, CERN only promised Dr. Rossler that if they create stable micro black holes that they will stop the experiment. Will that be too late?)

Even though the Large Hadron Collider will create conditions not seen in Nature since the first fraction of a second prior to the big bang, CERN asserts that there is no risk to the planet. (But the legal action contends a 75% probability of risk with very high degree of uncertainty calculated by a scientist with a masters degree in statistics, and alleges that Chief Scientific Officer Mr. Engelen passed an internal memorandum to workers at CERN asking them regardless of personal opinion to affirm in all interviews that there were no risks involved in the experiments, changing CERN’s previous assertion of minimal risk).

We could delay the experiment until the promised safety studies are completed and per reviewed, and this might prevent a catastrophy. (But then some scientists may not be the first to discover new science and some Nobel prizes may be lost.)

JTankers
LHCConcerns.com

Correction: conditions not seen in Nature since the first fraction of a second AFTER the big bang…

So where did the God particle come from? Are there yet smaller and smaller particles? Will this answer all of our questions of life the universe and everything. I doubt it. But all these projects sound cool and keep the money in the pockets of those who have and out of those who have not. Let’s use our money for better projects.

Yea we can figure out how the universe works but we can’t make a freaking car that gets 100 mpg. What a joke. We don’t know jack. Yes people some science is a wast of time and money IMO.

Posted by Unclesharkey | Report as abusive

If there is no God, then what created the God particle and what gave it the power to create mass?

Posted by Gail Quick | Report as abusive

if there is a God, it woul be preposterous to believe This God did not create the universe, Himself being the only thing allowing something possibly capable and by definition of God,supreme, and if there is a God, it is also preposterous to believe that we can assume to understand Him without having observed, and then say that He can only be found in the non particle, or the “un-” substance of His own creation cannot be justified. Whether the potter is also the clay, the potter but not the pot, will be the only conclusion from the god-particle. Either way this creation being that, must reflect, as every creation, its creator in some way.

oh and yes there is a car that makes about 300 mpg modestly. However technological capability does not neccessitate nor finance the implementation of that kind of an innovation to date, it will become practical when a corporate body must advance in this way to survive, or competition escalates to this level. Otherwise, read about it in popular science, and then don’t read about how its trial in Socal was shut down by giant corporations because the innovator lacked the economic power to compete. That’s life.

Posted by Matthew | Report as abusive

and biblically speaking, the earth is anywhere from 14-20,000 years old, with rougly 150 generations from Adam to the present. Somewhere in the middle, there was a theological monkey wrench thrown in the spokes of archaeology called the deluge, which is a biblical term for what may explain why neither side has an answer that can be backed. It was all (biblically) destroyed by a great flood. To talk this down some more, a surviving remnant would have been capable of re-populating the earth to it’s present proportion within about six to ten thousand with a little elbow grease. None of these claims the bible makes are anywhere nearly as ridiculous as the contemptible theory that we will find God wrapped around a particle, or that we will build a machine that could tear a controlled hole in space-time. Are they? Maybe when you find God, you can ask his opinion on the matter.
Until then, it might not be good to look a gift donkey’s colt in the mouth.

Posted by Matthew | Report as abusive

1. I like the thought of revealing a particle that produces mass – but then, that particle must also be made up of something…I wonder how minute we can go? Fascinating.
2. When my mother was dying, she said, “There is only one thing I know for sure: things change.” This statement sucked me into a vortex of clarity that made my eyes burn with tears. Everywhere I look I see change, and evidently, everywhere I can’t look, also. Motion and interaction seem to be key in everything, even vacuum states. The only time I have witnessed “nothingness” was when my mum’s soul left her body. Or, as she said, was that merely a “change?”
3. I envy you believers and you non-believers. At least you KNOW something. I, on the other hand, know nothing…
4. “What will be, will be.” -Doris Day
5. “What’s in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.” Juliet as written by William Shakespeare (translation – it is what it is – our names are meaningless)

Posted by Kelly | Report as abusive

or rather, they mean something only to us….hmmmm….

Posted by Kelly | Report as abusive

Some things are better left untouched as I always say. Maybe us being the creatures we are shouldn’t understand what everything really is, maybe it was just meant to be there. Sure we could use this technology to create a better life for the people of tomorrow but ya know what if something goes wrong here and creates something bad. Think of hiroshima in 1945….we developed the atomic bomb. Now…..we’ve got even worse things. Though I look at it from a positive way of creating travel through time and space…..and a bad thing of creating a paridox and destroying anything and everything.

If people want to know the mind of God all they have to do is accept Jesus. He died for us so we may find the truth and not only know God but with him forever.

Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by me. (John 14:6)

Posted by Jane | Report as abusive

i can see the confusion between trying to figure out if the Boggs particle will disprove God. But science explains things scientifically and when you can look at undeniable prophecy that no group of the wisest scientists could have come up with- had they been transported back to Old Testament times- you come up with miracles that science can’t begin to try to explain. And they won’t try because they would look foolish. But these were simple men who were told what to write and yet they foretold things that would occur time and time again, never being wrong. It would be impossible for scientists with all they have at their disposal to be able to predict all this prophecy. So if these are miracles that had to have more than human influence or lucky guesses to take place, then it goes beyond science. As one scientist put it who is a Christian, taking even 10 of the prophecies out of hundreds and having them all turn out as predicted, the odds are overwhelming to happen by chance. There is more chance a cat could jump up on a taple where was was different colors of paint in on a eisel and knock it over and create the Mona Lisa, then for 10 of these prophecies to take place.

Posted by burt ray | Report as abusive

I personnally do not believe in the God Particle, the Higgs particle, because I think they should already have found it a long time ago. I also do not believe in a graviton to explain gravity … it is too easy : when you cannot explain something, you just create another something to imagine what happens, but that also does not explain anything.
Maybe the Higgs ” field ” exists, if we may call it aether, yes why not …. but particles moving in it and gaining mass ….. I think for exemple they then should slow down at some moment …
No ! I believe only in energy, it’s all about energy and vibrations/energy fields !! I think MATTER only is existing when mass particles come together to form atoms and molecules and matter is just the new vibration on a different level created by the protons and neutrons and electrons together … it is the vibration/energy field of the atom, of the molecule … Mass becomes matter only on atom scale, I think you have MASS particles ( proton, electron, neutron ) and massless ones ( photons ) and when you put mass particles together they form a atom, and that atom IS MATTER.
If I may explain it this way : it feels like matter in the same way that you can feel a resistance when you put 2 magnets North against North : you feel resistance, the more you want to put them together, the more resistance you feel … and MATTER IS resistance – it’s all a question of vibrations, energy fields.
Photons have NO MASS, but they can give energy to mass particles – electrons – to move on a higher level, and when the electron looses its energy again it gives birth to a photon …. When you knock on matter, you knock on a energy field !! do you really think that your feet are walking on the ELECTRONS ( around the nuclei ) of the stones ?? You surely also do not walk on the protons ! the electrons of your feet atoms are NOT touching the electrons of the stone atoms : you walk on a energy field created by the ATOM of the stone, the electrons around the nucleus !! otherwise you would smash and crush the atoms or you would be like a photon pushing electrons away !!!!! Not convinced ?

Posted by george | Report as abusive

The big bang theory doesn’t say that there was a creator it just said that there was nothing,no time no space, than the quantum singularities was everywhere than there was always energy and matter and than it got spinned faster and faster and it explode and created one universe. i can’t say if this theory is true or not cause i wasn’t there. i always say that if it was just natural causes i believe it still doesn’t dismissed after life.

, These Physicists are about to understand finally, that there are two realms the Physical and the Angelical. Something had to start the bang. The God Partical which is the Divine natural cause. But the Divine will only allow them to know what he wants them to as in the scripture Genesis 11:1-9. Why do Physicists ponder on this like in Genesis? It is unclean spirts that are controlling the minds of the Physicists, but it is not there fault in perspective, they have been led astray by the unclean spirts to do this project. As crazy as this seems it is the cause and effect of the Divine nature

Posted by Jason Helper | Report as abusive

Updating my last comment, Everyone read Genesis 11:1-9 and then turn to Isaiah Chapter 47 and read 8-15. And then Isaiah 48&49. There will be No peace for the Wicked. Physicists who chase this have no inter peace. And the world needs to pray for them.

Posted by Jason Helper | Report as abusive

Yes, the “HIGGS BOSON” is refered to as the god particle. We should not seek the Scientific side of life.
We are no longer the leaders inthe world in science, math, health care, or anything else! But we lead the way in the Military Industrial Complex. Why spend billions on the trueth we we can spend it on BOMBS to take lives from those who do not agree with our religious beliefs.
A M E N !!!

Posted by caveman | Report as abusive

The bible says “in the beginning was the word”. Therefor to inquire into the nature of the universe as these physicists are doing is to follow God’s will to understand his greatest book – the universe itself, which is the direct writing of God – the bible was “inspired” by God, the universe was created by God through his creative word. Physicists are the true holy men seeking to read the truest bible – the universe.

Posted by jojobee | Report as abusive

The reason the God particle is so elusive? God will not allow you to know what he knows. You are wasting your money. You are like Eve, wanting to be as wise as God. But God is just silly superstition to those who try to find him through science.

Posted by voice inda widdernus | Report as abusive

Not offensive at all – they’re only words. There’s nothing wrong with trying to understand the nature of our existence, coming up with names, labels and classifications in the process. It also seems natural (to some) that God is in the center of it all anyway – in whatever state, shape or form. Plus, God doesn’t mind… it’s people who get offended for whatever reasons, not God.

Posted by Patryk Ploszaj | Report as abusive

A general law of probability states that the probability of a given evnet being due to chance is inversely proportional to the number of variables involved and the range of possible values for each of those variables.

It is reasonable to hypothesize that the Higgs boson was the initial result of the big bang. If these most elementary particles almost immediately transoformed into the subatomic particles that gave rise to atoms, the probability is very low that these subatomic particles formed by chance because of the virtually infinite range of possible particle types that could have been produced. Additionally, if the big bang was the initial event or cause of the physical universe and prior to that event there was nothing, a question arises of what was the first cause that resulted in something, even the Higgs boson, being produced from nothing? An increasing number of scientists are coming to the conclusion that the big bang was intentional and the resulting universe was intelligently designed. If these contentions are true, then an intelligent, living being did so. Such a being would be supreme and is normally referred to as “God.”

the name isnt very offensive to me because i do balieve in god and i believe in science i think god and science are the same thing so to say that isnt a god particle to me is like saying that god doesnt exist since in oone of the many verses of the bible it says thif yuo cut open a tree you will find me so in that sence god is all things so by saying that he must also be within the god particle as well. i go to church and they say god passes the ultimate power so that power to me must mean that he3 can creat something from nothing by using nothing to creat something for if you think about it nothing must be something or we wouldnt give it meaning so in this calling it the god particle wouldnt be offensive because gods child stated that he is everything.

I’d be inclined to buy into with you one this subject. Which is not something I typically do! I really like reading a post that will make people think. Also, thanks for allowing me to speak my mind!

Rethinking the basic laws of Nature:

“TIME THEORY OF EVERYTHING”
A challenge to CERN Large Hadron Collider (LHC) experiment, search for a God Particle!

I’m a researcher working on “Time Theory of Everything”.
My motto is: “ One day of a researcher’s life is better than 100 years life of a king !”
Universe is my everything and I am in search of a “Theory of Everything”!!
My passion is about Cosmology, nature of the Universe, Physics, Theory of Everything, nature of TIME, origins of LIFE and Consciousness.
Research is a FUN for me.
The only truth about the physical Universe is that it is not physical ! The smartest thing of the Universe is Universe itself ! Universe is not only small and finite. Universe ‘on the whole’ is smartest phenomenon of the Universe ! ‘On the whole’ Universe is ‘shapeless’, ‘massless’ and ‘weightless’. I CAN PICK IT UP !!!
Einstein’s “second law,” m = E/ c^2 i.e. m = E/ c2 [ How mass drives from pure Energy.], raises the question whether mass can be understood more deeply as energy. And can we build, as Wheeler put it, ” Mass Without Mass “,? are the best predictions in favour of my ” Time Theory of Everything “.
In my view the first question is “How pure energy drives from TIME?”.
”The Universe is not what it used to be, nor what it appears to be.” as Frank W ilczek of MIT quoted in first chapter ‘Getting to it’ of his book titled ” The Lightness of Being ” [ mass, ether, and the unification of forces ] also supports my theory.
Infinity is finity ‘on the whole’. There is nothing original under the physical phenomena. All physical properties of the universe are secondary in nature.There is a Universe behind the ‘Physical Universe’ which is ‘DARK’ and primary Universe.
If a “Theory of Everything” is Holy Grail of cosmology, “Time Theory of Everything” is Holy Grail of physics.
Physicists are hunting for an elusive particle that would reveal the presence of a new kind of field that permeates all of reality. Finding that Higgs field will give us a more complete understanding about how the elusive universe works!
I believe in bold imagination in research. I believe universe is not acadamic, and is not bound of our physical theories. Capture Higgs particle, ‘eyes on a prize particle’, the search for the Higgs boson [God Particle] and creation of micro black holes is nonsense idea.
Higgs boson is not Destiny. We have to rethink TIME and ETERNITY.
Basic and primary stuff of the universe is not physical. All matter, energy and fundamental forces of nature are secondary and reffered by a unified primary force of nature.
There is a ‘co-ordination force’ in between ‘God’ and all secondary forces of nature, which is more important than Higgs boson !!
I suggest this force is TIME.
TIME is invisible presence and the only BASIC BUILDING BLOCK of the Universe and Everything in it !
Deep down, the particles and forces of the universe are a manifestation of TIME.
TIME is a coordination force of the Universe and Multiverse referred by Nature.
Nothing has independent existence except TIME. All three and extra dimensions of space are of time’s dimensions. Time is not a 4th dimension of space. TIME IS ALL DIMENSIONS.
PASSWORD of TIME is in the Mind of GOD.
Tell me about the NATURE OF TIME, I can create the UNIVERSE, a MACRO BLACK HOLE, Higgs boson and even LIFE !
“If all cosmologists of the world say a foolish thing it is still a foolish thing !” I WILL CHANGE THE HISTORY OF TIME ! I have suggested in my ” TIME THEORY OF EVERYTHING ” that God does not play PARTICLES game with the Universe !
Three of space and one of time that three space dimensions and one of time dimension is wrong idea. Time is included in three space dimensions, but not as a 4th dimension i.e all dimensions of space are dimensions of time.
TIME IS NOT A MANUFACTURED QUANTITY. Time has independent existence and fundamental. Space is a manufactured quantity and secondary form of time.
I believe in infinite extra spatial dimensions of ‘TIME’ only, and I know what these dimensions are, but I don’t believe time as extra dimension with space. I don’t believe in extra dimensions of space, I believe in extra dimensions of time! Three dimensions of space and one dimension of of time is absolutely wrong idea. Our physical universe exists in three or 11 dimensions of time! [as string theory proposed,10 of space and one of time dimension]
“There isn’t just one dimension of time,” says Itzhak Bars of the University of Southern California in Los Angeles.”There are two. One whole dimension has until now gone entirely unnoticed by us. Two time / 2T Physics” [New scientist 13 October 2007, Hypertime, Cover story] Why we need two dimensions of time? Why not we need 11 and many more dimensions of TIME !
Higgs boson should be named “TIME PARTICLE”

A NEW HYPOTHESIS:

I don’t believe particles in any shape or dimensions as basic building blocks of matter, energy, and everything in the universe. I have an alternative “Fluctuating Extreme Levels” hypothesis which is a part of my “Time Theory of Everything” [Extreme Level Theory]
Extreme Level Theory suggests that basic building blocks of everything in the universe are composed of ‘Fluctuating Extreme Levels’ of energy.
In ‘Extreme Level Theory’ of time, Extreme Levels correspond to different entities and quantities.
If Extreme Level Theory proves correct, photons, electrons and neutrinos are different due to changes in the fluctuations of extreme levels.
Prior to Extreme Level Theory, subatomic ‘particles’ were envisioned as tiny balls or points of energy. Extreme Level Theory works on the premise that the tiniest subatomic bits that make up the elements of atoms actually behave like ‘Fluctuating Extreme Levels’ and not like vibrating or dancing strings!
Higg’s Field is a “Time’s Field”……..
Photon is no more now a particle, a wave, or has features of both! Photon exist at fluctuating extreme level of energy.
My “TIME THEORY OF EVERYTHING” will change the meaning of Matter, Energy, Natural Forces, Consciousness, Life & Extraterrestrial Life and Death.

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Rethinking the basic laws of Nature:

“TIME THEORY OF EVERYTHING”
A challenge to CERN Large Hadron Collider (LHC) experiment, search for a God Particle!

I’m a researcher working on “Time Theory of Everything”.
My motto is: “ One day of a researcher’s life is better than 100 years life of a king !”
Universe is my everything and I am in search of a “Theory of Everything”!!
My passion is about Cosmology, nature of the Universe, Physics, Theory of Everything, nature of TIME, origins of LIFE and Consciousness.
Research is a FUN for me.
The only truth about the physical Universe is that it is not physical ! The smartest thing of the Universe is Universe itself ! Universe is not only small and finite. Universe ‘on the whole’ is smartest phenomenon of the Universe ! ‘On the whole’ Universe is ‘shapeless’, ‘massless’ and ‘weightless’. I CAN PICK IT UP !!!
Einstein’s “second law,” m = E/ c^2 i.e. m = E/ c2 [ How mass drives from pure Energy.], raises the question whether mass can be understood more deeply as energy. And can we build, as Wheeler put it, ” Mass Without Mass “,? are the best predictions in favour of my ” Time Theory of Everything “.
In my view the first question is “How pure energy drives from TIME?”.
”The Universe is not what it used to be, nor what it appears to be.” as Frank W ilczek of MIT quoted in first chapter ‘Getting to it’ of his book titled ” The Lightness of Being ” [ mass, ether, and the unification of forces ] also supports my theory.
Infinity is finity ‘on the whole’. There is nothing original under the physical phenomena. All physical properties of the universe are secondary in nature.There is a Universe behind the ‘Physical Universe’ which is ‘DARK’ and primary Universe.
If a “Theory of Everything” is Holy Grail of cosmology, “Time Theory of Everything” is Holy Grail of physics.
Physicists are hunting for an elusive particle that would reveal the presence of a new kind of field that permeates all of reality. Finding that Higgs field will give us a more complete understanding about how the elusive universe works!
I believe in bold imagination in research. I believe universe is not acadamic, and is not bound of our physical theories. Capture Higgs particle, ‘eyes on a prize particle’, the search for the Higgs boson [God Particle] and creation of micro black holes is nonsense idea.
Higgs boson is not Destiny. We have to rethink TIME and ETERNITY.
Basic and primary stuff of the universe is not physical. All matter, energy and fundamental forces of nature are secondary and reffered by a unified primary force of nature.
There is a ‘co-ordination force’ in between ‘God’ and all secondary forces of nature, which is more important than Higgs boson !!
I suggest this force is TIME.
TIME is invisible presence and the only BASIC BUILDING BLOCK of the Universe and Everything in it !
Deep down, the particles and forces of the universe are a manifestation of TIME.
TIME is a coordination force of the Universe and Multiverse referred by Nature.
Nothing has independent existence except TIME. All three and extra dimensions of space are of time’s dimensions. Time is not a 4th dimension of space. TIME IS ALL DIMENSIONS.
PASSWORD of TIME is in the Mind of GOD.
Tell me about the NATURE OF TIME, I can create the UNIVERSE, a MACRO BLACK HOLE, Higgs boson and even LIFE !
“If all cosmologists of the world say a foolish thing it is still a foolish thing !” I WILL CHANGE THE HISTORY OF TIME ! I have suggested in my ” TIME THEORY OF EVERYTHING ” that God does not play PARTICLES game with the Universe !
Three of space and one of time that three space dimensions and one of time dimension is wrong idea. Time is included in three space dimensions, but not as a 4th dimension i.e all dimensions of space are dimensions of time.
TIME IS NOT A MANUFACTURED QUANTITY. Time has independent existence and fundamental. Space is a manufactured quantity and secondary form of time.
I believe in infinite extra spatial dimensions of ‘TIME’ only, and I know what these dimensions are, but I don’t believe time as extra dimension with space. I don’t believe in extra dimensions of space, I believe in extra dimensions of time! Three dimensions of space and one dimension of of time is absolutely wrong idea. Our physical universe exists in three or 11 dimensions of time! [as string theory proposed,10 of space and one of time dimension]
“There isn’t just one dimension of time,” says Itzhak Bars of the University of Southern California in Los Angeles.”There are two. One whole dimension has until now gone entirely unnoticed by us. Two time / 2T Physics” [New scientist 13 October 2007, Hypertime, Cover story] Why we need two dimensions of time? Why not we need 11 and many more dimensions of TIME !
Higgs boson should be named “TIME PARTICLE”

A NEW HYPOTHESIS:

I don’t believe particles in any shape or dimensions as basic building blocks of matter, energy, and everything in the universe. I have an alternative “Fluctuating Extreme Levels” hypothesis which is a part of my “Time Theory of Everything” [Extreme Level Theory]
Extreme Level Theory suggests that basic building blocks of everything in the universe are composed of ‘Fluctuating Extreme Levels’ of energy.
In ‘Extreme Level Theory’ of time, Extreme Levels correspond to different entities and quantities.
If Extreme Level Theory proves correct, photons, electrons and neutrinos are different due to changes in the fluctuations of extreme levels.
Prior to Extreme Level Theory, subatomic ‘particles’ were envisioned as tiny balls or points of energy. Extreme Level Theory works on the premise that the tiniest subatomic bits that make up the elements of atoms actually behave like ‘Fluctuating Extreme Levels’ and not like vibrating or dancing strings!
Higg’s Field is a “Time’s Field”……..
Photon is no more now a particle, a wave, or has features of both! Photon exist at fluctuating extreme level of energy.
My “TIME THEORY OF EVERYTHING” will change the meaning of Matter, Energy, Natural Forces, Consciousness, Life & Extraterrestrial Life and Death.

Khalid Masood
khalidcustoms@gmail.com

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Physical world is not merely a lump, it is everything of the earth that represents “five elements” which are foundation for the entire physical world and from which life also evolves. The “five elements” are Earth (prithvi), Water (jal), Air (vayu), Fire (agni), Space (akash).”Jainism” also describes about independence and interdependence of the elements and in other religions also similar researches were done in past. Unfortunately the relevant literature is either not available or distorted to a great extent and twisted as well to suit personal bias. comment of khalidcustoms is great. Keep your research going and enjoy a life better than a king.

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