Comments on: Communion politics issue boils up after U.S. papal visit http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/04/29/communion-politics-issue-boils-up-after-us-papal-visit/ Religion, faith and ethics Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:25:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Reasonable http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/04/29/communion-politics-issue-boils-up-after-us-papal-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-6023 Sat, 20 Sep 2008 05:25:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/04/29/communion-politics-issue-boils-up-after-us-papal-visit/#comment-6023 Your hatefull comments make me believe you all are not true catholics, but you follow the republican religion. None of you have mentioned word of the death penalty. Is one life more valuable than another? If we withhold communion from those that are pro-choice then we must equally withhold from those that support the death penalty. I would like to think that God is neither a democrat or a republican. If I join in with the chime that you can’t be catholic and pro-choice, I would also say that you can’t be catholic and be pro death penalty and pro war.

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By: Behati http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/04/29/communion-politics-issue-boils-up-after-us-papal-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-3600 Sat, 24 May 2008 16:53:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/04/29/communion-politics-issue-boils-up-after-us-papal-visit/#comment-3600 It’s uplifting to read these comments of the Catholics who realize the beauty, depth and the mystery of the Eucharist (Holy Communion). I was shocked that it was the secular media AP, and in this article Reuters had mentioned about the scandal which was caused by the so called catholic politicians during the Pope’s visit to the US last April. It seems that there is only few lay faithful who remember what it takes to receive Holy Communion. Somehow the church hierarchy doesn’t feel obliged to talk about it, there however exceptions. I consider a scandal in itself that we must read about it on the news that public sinners come to Communion at the masses offered by the Holy Father. Why are we so complaisant with the world? Tomorrow is the Solemnity of Corpus Christi, and I am preparing the sermon on the Eucharist for my parish. Thank you to all the faithful for your help in this, for your witness to what it means to be Catholic today. Speak up more, I need to hear it, I need to be reminded of it, if they keep silence, the stones will speak.

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By: Jack Francis http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/04/29/communion-politics-issue-boils-up-after-us-papal-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-3302 Fri, 02 May 2008 20:49:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/04/29/communion-politics-issue-boils-up-after-us-papal-visit/#comment-3302 Here in the Greater Boston area we are still waiting to hear something, anything from Cardinal O’Malley about the Papal Mass Catholics like Senators Kerry and Kennedy who, despite their votes for the death of the unborn, proceeded to take The Blessed Sacrament as if they were members of a religious order. They are only the most recognizable names of a slew of Massachusetts politicians who profess to be Roman Catholic, piously take Holy Communion and then lobby and vote for homosexual marriage, adoptions by homosexuals and, of course, abortion.

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By: Lucia A. Bartoli http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/04/29/communion-politics-issue-boils-up-after-us-papal-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-3283 Thu, 01 May 2008 20:30:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/04/29/communion-politics-issue-boils-up-after-us-papal-visit/#comment-3283 As for Rudy Giuliani, his marriages are only one part of the problem. His pro-abortion status means he removes HIMSELF from this sacrament. The reception of Communion by a Catholic who is pro-abortion is a mortal sin as it against the doctrine of the Catholic Church.
Someone once asked a priest friend of mine if he(the priest) really believed that a person HAD to go to confession at least once a year. The priest replied, “No, not at all…(a pause followed) – unless he/she is Catholic. So, this means that if Catholicism or Jewish or whatever is your faith, then LOGICALLY one must follow the tenets of that faith and its disciplines.
The burden upon the bishops/cardinals involved is awesomely GREAT. They failed to “step up to the plate” for Jesus (as it applies to Catholicism). Politics at all cost, eh, boys? How pathetic.

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By: Thomas A. Szyszkiewicz http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/04/29/communion-politics-issue-boils-up-after-us-papal-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-3278 Thu, 01 May 2008 14:05:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/04/29/communion-politics-issue-boils-up-after-us-papal-visit/#comment-3278 To answer your three questions:

1) Obviously not.

2) Egan is not making this a political football. He is a pastor who has a member of his flock who is going astray. He addressed it in private with Giuliani, but then Giuliani very publicly went against the agreement he had made with Egan in private. So Giuliani is playing the political football with his comment about it being a private affair. Sorry, Rudy — you receive in public, it’s now a public affair.

3) Phil Lawler at CWNews.com answered this one — it’s because Egan didn’t want Giuliani’s divorce to get in the way of his message to other bishops. If Egan had mentioned anything in his statement about Giuliani’s divorce and remarriage situation, that would apply only to Giuliani, not to the other politicians like Pelosi, Kerry and Kennedy. Hence, Egan wanted to make it clear that this was not something strictly related to Giuliani’s particular marital situation but applicable to all politicians who call themselves Catholic.

But Egan also told his brother bishops how he went about this – in private. Remember all the speculation about Giuliani receiving Communion and how when reporters asked he also said it was a private affair? Well, now we know that he wasn’t receiving and why he wasn’t. Egan is signaling to other bishops that this how to go about dealing with these folks.

Now it’s going to be up to bishops like Cardinal O’Malley of Boston, Archbishop Niederauer of San Francisco and Bishop Michael Cote of Norwich, Connecticut to take care of the straying members of their flocks.

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By: John70 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/04/29/communion-politics-issue-boils-up-after-us-papal-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-3268 Thu, 01 May 2008 04:24:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/04/29/communion-politics-issue-boils-up-after-us-papal-visit/#comment-3268 It’s not just these worthless politicians who are at fault and deserve punishment,but also the priests,bishops and archbishops who make it possible for these lost souls to commit their sins.I find it very difficult to follow these charlatans who profess to be our shepherds. If they are not faithful to God in this one thing, why should I believe they are faithful in any other?

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By: Viva Benedict http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/04/29/communion-politics-issue-boils-up-after-us-papal-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-3265 Thu, 01 May 2008 00:15:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/04/29/communion-politics-issue-boils-up-after-us-papal-visit/#comment-3265 I agree with most of the posters here. It is gravely scandalous and immoral for pro-abortion politicians to receive communion.

The problem with Rob’s post is that it assumes a private sinner. Regarding private sinners, he is absolutely correct. St. Paul says that we must “examine ourselves” and “discern the body” in order to receive, for if we do not, we “eat and drink damnation upon ourselves.” A careful reading of 1 Cor. clearly puts the onus on the sinner…. not the presbyter.

HOWEVER, when we have prominent Catholics publicly and scandalously contradicting Christ’s truth, then that is another matter, for they put the other laity at risk by their example. “Rudy received… he’s a pro-abort who has been married three times… why can’t I?”

In matters like this, where public scandal can well lead others to the gates of Hell, it is IMPERATIVE that the Church speak up. It is IMPERATIVE that the Bishops take the sinner aside and inform of them of Church teaching and demand they repent.

There was a time when Christian Roman Emperors who had sinned grievously were made to perform public penance for their sins, for their sins were so public. I do not call for public penance, but I do call on our Bishops to hold those who are public sinners to account, not for any political purpose, but rather for the salvation of their souls.

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By: Daniel http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/04/29/communion-politics-issue-boils-up-after-us-papal-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-3262 Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:20:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/04/29/communion-politics-issue-boils-up-after-us-papal-visit/#comment-3262 This isn’t even a subject of debate. There is no doubt the Catholic Church is against abortion. Anybody, in any way, shape or form, that supports it is in violation of the laws of the Catholic Church and should not, and cannot receive the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ.
We have to many Catholics that are playing the Cafeteria Catholic game. I don’t like this law so I don’t have to follow it, Oh, this one is OK, I will follow it. Pick and choose which laws of the Church they want to follow. Well guess what? The Catholic Church is not a democracy. You are Catholic, you follow all the laws, all the Commandments, you don’t like the rules, then when you die tell God that you disagree with His way, His Commandments, you don’t like His way of doing things.

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By: Al Wunsch http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/04/29/communion-politics-issue-boils-up-after-us-papal-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-3258 Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:51:02 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/04/29/communion-politics-issue-boils-up-after-us-papal-visit/#comment-3258 The position of the Church is clear – a person who, after talking to his priest/bishop, continues to publicly support abortion cannot receive communion. Senators Kerry, Kennedy, Leahy, Durbin, Dodd and House Speaker Pelosi all fall in that category and should not receive communion so long as they continue to lead the pro-abortion democratic party professing to support abortion etc. A priest who recognizes these people should refuse to give them communion.

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By: Rob http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/04/29/communion-politics-issue-boils-up-after-us-papal-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-3257 Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:09:56 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/04/29/communion-politics-issue-boils-up-after-us-papal-visit/#comment-3257 I am a Catholic who has read the Bible many times and believes devoutly in what our Lord and Saviour died for: our sins. I do not believe any body should be denied Communion as Jesus accepted all sinners and therefore the Church should not deny anyone the Body and Blood of Jesus. It is therefore up to the person receiving our Lord if he or she is right with Him. Jesus has been made Lord of all and he alone will judge according to the Law and Scriptures. If someone knowingly receives Communion without being right with Jesus then Jesus will judge. “Vengenance is mine and I will repay” says the Lord. All we can do is pray and live by example. If we do not like what these people say and do then don’t vote for them; but we should always pray for them. Thank you Jesus.

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