Comments on: Catholic-Mormon tension over LDS baptism of the dead http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/05/08/catholic-mormon-tension-over-lds-baptism-of-the-dead/ Religion, faith and ethics Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:25:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Tomnjeri http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/05/08/catholic-mormon-tension-over-lds-baptism-of-the-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-76727 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 22:58:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/05/08/catholic-mormon-tension-over-lds-baptism-of-the-dead/#comment-76727 You quoted a blog as saying: “I suspect Latter-day Saints would be very upset over Mormon pioneer proxy resignations from the LDS Church. They may even believe it to be an injustice to the memories of their loved-ones…”

Actually, since I don’t recognize the authority of a non-Mormon to resign for a deceased member I would not be bothered at all. Sorry.

I guess that’s why I don’t understand why people are offended when someone with authority they don’t recognize performs an ordinance for a deceased relative. Maybe they do recognize our authority after all. If you do, why condemn yourself by not joining what you consider to be the Church with authority to act for God?

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By: Family Tree http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/05/08/catholic-mormon-tension-over-lds-baptism-of-the-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-14267 Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:19:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/05/08/catholic-mormon-tension-over-lds-baptism-of-the-dead/#comment-14267 Don’t mind but, I think LDS is a crazy organization.

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By: Shanae http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/05/08/catholic-mormon-tension-over-lds-baptism-of-the-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-10187 Fri, 06 Feb 2009 05:45:56 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/05/08/catholic-mormon-tension-over-lds-baptism-of-the-dead/#comment-10187 These baptisms are not meant to be forced on people. They are names (usually donated by the deceased family members.) All the “baptism” is is a blessing on their soul and and invitation to reach salvation through the lds belief system. When they do this- they deceased soul has the opportunity to except this blessing and the Lds faith, or decline it. This is done just so that they have a chance to except the faith in the after life- even if it wasn’t provided for them in this life. (If they so choose). None of it really matters unless they choose to except the blessing. Nobody- including God- has the power to force religion on an unwilling soul.

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By: Holly http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/05/08/catholic-mormon-tension-over-lds-baptism-of-the-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-9660 Sat, 17 Jan 2009 06:20:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/05/08/catholic-mormon-tension-over-lds-baptism-of-the-dead/#comment-9660 I just found out that one of my ancestors from Tudor England was given a proxy baptism by the LDS Church. I am angry. I think it would be hilarious and quite fitting if a very different faith such as Islam or Hinduism would usher in all people of LDS ancestry into their faith postumously and see how LDS families like it. Bet they wouldn’t say “well we don’t believe in that, so it doesn’t matter.” It does matter and you should all be ashamed of yourselves.

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By: baccuss http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/05/08/catholic-mormon-tension-over-lds-baptism-of-the-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-8962 Fri, 19 Dec 2008 04:50:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/05/08/catholic-mormon-tension-over-lds-baptism-of-the-dead/#comment-8962 I find this article and the views of a lot of the folks that post to be rather humorous.
1. Most genealogical records are not marked with where they were acquired…but many are
2. If you don’t believe in Mormon baptism for the dead….Uh, why would you care? If you do care that suggests you feel the Mormons have some power over your spirit after death. In either case you have some religious issues to work out.
3. Mormons don’t go near or try to convert Muslims and will never do baptisms for them.
4. “These records are from public sources aggregated by tax payer money.” That is not true, the records from america and other modern coutries…maybe. But most records come from the Catholic church(s). Lets face it the catholic church readily sold those names to the mormon church. Or barter for technologically advanced media if you will.
5. That ash hollow crap has no bearing on anything and is not related to the mormon church in any way.
6. The mountain meadow massacre was not sanctioned by the Mormon church…period. It was undertaken by Mormons who lost their lands and family members to the “SAME” people that were heading out from Missouri…where they had taken mormon land and lives by force with the help and blessing of both the governor and the military. And they stated they were going to do the same in UTAH. Some people overreacted and killed them all. This has nothing to do with the mormon church. To the best of my knowledge the “Mormon” Church is (was) the only religious organization to directly confront the US military and to be under siege by them.
7. You dont have the option to opt out of baptism for the dead….get over it. Just dont accept the work on the other side. Problem solved.
8. “…Given there is considerable difference between the old traditional doctrines and LDS doctrine, there isn’t much negotiating room or even a place for traditional Christian beliefs such as the Nicene and other related creeds.”
This is a statement of ignorance. Do the research read the history….most religions based on christ have the same tenants in the beginning and only change over time. Catholicism is a great example.
9. …”We must remember as Christians that baptism for the dead has been banished from “proper Christian” denominations for about 1800 years now, and for us to let this extremist and unorthodox group of people stomp over the memories of our relatives is foolish and weak. For instance the mormons who want to baptize the jews who died in ww2, they died for there religion i don’t think that now they would say oh your right i would rather be a mormon then a jew after dieing as such.”
lol…really? what would you consider “proper”? List some history… you have no basis in history or fact. Christians did not exist as such “Officially” until Constantine became one and made it the defacto religion.
And that wasnt 1800 years ago.

Anywho, guess it’s entertaining to hear from the ignorant on subjects they have no knowledge of.

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By: Jennifer http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/05/08/catholic-mormon-tension-over-lds-baptism-of-the-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-8425 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:48:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/05/08/catholic-mormon-tension-over-lds-baptism-of-the-dead/#comment-8425 My grandmother is 96 and doesn’t want to be posthumously baptized. But one of our relatives (who has recently converted to Mormonism) has stated that this is his intent following her death.

I don’t want to be posthumously baptized, either.

Is there anything we can do to prevent this from happening?

We want to (as politely as possible) decline the LSD offer of eternal salvation. We want privacy. We want our wishes respected, but we don’t know what to do.

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By: Edd Farwell http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/05/08/catholic-mormon-tension-over-lds-baptism-of-the-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-8393 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:42:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/05/08/catholic-mormon-tension-over-lds-baptism-of-the-dead/#comment-8393 How does one find out if their relatives have been proxyed into the Mormon faith?

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By: Mike M http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/05/08/catholic-mormon-tension-over-lds-baptism-of-the-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-8204 Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:18:56 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/05/08/catholic-mormon-tension-over-lds-baptism-of-the-dead/#comment-8204 One thing that should not be laughed at can be found at the official LDS website below:

http://www.lds.org/gospellibrary/pioneer  /19_Ash_Hollow.html

This site continues to state that the murder of women and children was a significant victory. Even the Army admits that it was a massacre on September 3, 1855 against the Little Thunder band of Lakota.

It is hypocritical and sick that the LDS have done proxy baptisms for General William S. Harney, and George Armstrong Custer, but continue to claim that this atrocity was a “significant victory”.

How can proxy baptisms for Jewish Holocaust victims still be done even after the agreement, and at the same time the deasths of another group of victims are referred to with words contrary to history?

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By: alex http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/05/08/catholic-mormon-tension-over-lds-baptism-of-the-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-7607 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:49:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/05/08/catholic-mormon-tension-over-lds-baptism-of-the-dead/#comment-7607 because the Mormons have so many false doctrines whatever they do is totally irrelevant and should be laughed at instead of wasting space and time discussing them.

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By: Debbie http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/05/08/catholic-mormon-tension-over-lds-baptism-of-the-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-7566 Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:40:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/05/08/catholic-mormon-tension-over-lds-baptism-of-the-dead/#comment-7566 I visited a local LDS Family Research Center trying to find the source of a birth record on a deceased, Catholic, family member.I’m assuming the information came from Catholic Church records but I was hoping to find out the exact Parish. The volunteer who helped me was very nice but couldn’t seem to retrieve the information from their computer records.

I was referred to the Temple to get theinformation. When I told them I’m non-Mormon, the response I got was blatant “Oh,well!” And that was THAT. No other assistance was offered. The experience was humiliating!

Don’t kid yourselves, LDS isn’t providing all this labor
and information for free. Some LDS affiliate genealogy
website subscriptions are very expensive.

It’s simple to me. They baptised my late, Grandmother’s
sister, without asking permission, but they won’t tell me where her birth record originated.

That’s not benevolence, that’s thievery.

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