Comments on: NYT has second thoughts about “Sharia smear” on Obama Religion, faith and ethics Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:25:07 +0000 hourly 1 By: Tom Heneghan Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:47:09 +0000 Thanks Jeff. It was one of the better exchanges we’ve had and I’m glad you found it interesting.

By: Jeff Weber Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:24:05 +0000 I did learn from Tom Heneghan’s and Robert NYC’s back and forth comments! Thank you both for representing the 2 sides of the argument very well. Some other commentators seem to think that Luttwak had a right-wing agenda to push American’s away from voting for Obama. This does not seem likely however, because the timing is poor. Obama is about to win the Democratic nomination and the real election is many months away.

I think Tom is correct that Luttwak’s comment about ‘ALL muslims believe that Obama is an apostate’ is inaccurate, but I think that Robert NYC is correct that a great many muslims consider Obama an apostate. In the end, I think that Luttwak was inaccurate, but not a liar. And I think that his inaccuracies were close enough to the truth that the NYT did no harm in printing his article. So Luttwak overstepped his bounds a little, but Hoyt’s rebuttal did too.

I rarely read any blogs, but I read everyone’s comments on this one. Thanks again Tom and Robert.

By: The Truth Is... Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:40:37 +0000 Fascist smears always go for the most fantastic lies: they are supposed to do the greatest damage.

On this occasion, Obama comes out whiter than white and the extremist Sharia article looks increasingly like used toilet paper – or just tea leaves in the bottom of a cracked mug.

Anyone who hits below the belt via the media deserves to be metaphorically tarred and feathered and marched through the streets on the back of a donkey.

That the writer of the piece was writing claptrap and nonsence, has not, thankfully, gone passed the average American’s attention without incredulity or downright oputrage.

I rely on the incised sense of human decency in the average American to see made-up propaganda for what it is: tomorrows wrapping paper!

By: Eric Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:27:21 +0000 Robert NYC

I understand what you are saying but not being able to negotiate with a country like China is not necessarily a bad thing. Do you honestly believe everybody likes Christians? Most Muslims hate Christians which is why were not getting along now. The cold truth about America is that it was one of the key players responsible for the continued destabilization of the Middle East by selling Arms to them (thanks to Bill Clinton) So IMO putting a Muslim in the drivers seat is not a bad idea so long as he/she is a “Muslim American” who’s loyalty is first and foremost to America, Americans & global human rights rather than special interest groups or being out for self. “Who knows”, a fair minded Muslim president could maybe actually get something done in the middle east for a change.

I see it is like this; if we would stop these petty race/religious wars, focus on making America into the dream of “all man being created equal” and live by the core words of our constitution instead of fighting to amend it all the time America could one day become a shining example of how people of all races & religions can get along.

I know there are plenty of good hearted Americans out there who want a better future for their children and I exclude you. but As things stand now (to me anyway) America just seems to be a flickering light of hope and a raging inferno of hate & greed.

By: Louisa Dyer Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:23:43 +0000 What ever happened to accuracy in reporting? I think it is a crime that papers print what is untrue, and they should be held accountable. I am appalled that more isn’t being done to present the facts rather than one person’s diatribe based on false information.
Rev. Louisa Dyer

By: Kelly Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:13:28 +0000 RAL,

I was in total agreement with you until the anti american venom spewed forth. I’ll evn further my agreement by saying that personal gain and personal agenda seem to be at the top of every politician’s list of things to do.

I am pretty sure that the basic Muslim religion is not far off of basic Christian religion.(Christian meaning follower of Jesus) That said, I don’t think that every single follower of either religion are blind. Just as every democrat does not have extreme leftist views nor every republican neo conservative views.

What makes this country great is the freedom we have to shout about the wrong doings of the country and it’s leaders. Try saying the things that you said about America, about Iran in Iran. That is a sure fire way to have ugly warts removed from your neck.

By: Tom Heneghan Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:56:23 +0000 Robert NYC – You’re trying hard to get the last word here, but your comment suggests I have agreed that no Jew should become president, which is implied in your question. I cannot let that stand here. And I now withdraw my offer to continue posting your comments because I have no idea what else will come.

By: Robert NYC Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:55:02 +0000 Kudos to Tom H,

Tom – just realized you are the author of the article. My bad and my apologies for not being more diligent on your credentials.

I did find your follow up to the original article far superior and comprehensive and corrcet as far as what an authors responsibilities are. My posts here are of course purely my own opinion and hopefully our back and forth for any readers has been enlightening.

Have a great day!

By: Robert NYC Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:47:19 +0000 Tom,

ounds like you answered the question correctly, found yourself logic trapped and gave up. Probably the correct response.

Have a nice day.

By: Robert NYC Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:46:19 +0000 Hey Tom –

Come on now. You said ‘Just like I can’t buy this argument for a Jew, I can’t buy it for someone declared a Muslim apostate by a conservative American military strategist with no expertise in Islam’.

It makes no difference who the source was or whether it is an conservative American military strategist or the mullah from here or there. What we are talking about is the ability of any splinter of Islam, radical or not, or any public opinion or public offical being able to label Obama an apostate and to then use this label to further their anti-american agendas.

Thats it – thats the central point here. If this can be done Obama is less desirable as a President.