Comments on: Southern Baptists hold meet amid falling baptisms http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/06/09/southern-baptists-hold-meet-amid-falling-baptisms/ Religion, faith and ethics Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:25:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Johanan http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/06/09/southern-baptists-hold-meet-amid-falling-baptisms/comment-page-1/#comment-4509 Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:45:56 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/06/09/southern-baptists-hold-meet-amid-falling-baptisms/#comment-4509 Sorry- typo above- the second sentence in the second paragraph should say, “Either one of them is correct and the other is wrong or they are both wrong together.”

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By: Johanan http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/06/09/southern-baptists-hold-meet-amid-falling-baptisms/comment-page-1/#comment-4508 Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:43:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/06/09/southern-baptists-hold-meet-amid-falling-baptisms/#comment-4508 Rebekah:

This has zip to do with Mormonism? There are not statistics in support of what I said? Start with researching the writings of Harold Bloom (Yale) and Rodney Stark (U of Washington. Then, we can talk.

Only Catholics and Mormons claim to have the sole authority of Jesus Christ. Either one of them is correct and the other is wrong. People can figure that out for themselves. But, it’s a fact that evangelical and Baptist America, though their faith is real, do not know what they believe or from whence their authority came…. This is why they are stumbling. Their beliefs are politically motivated and therefore shift. The Old Catholic Church has shifted less.

I respect the Old Catholic Church. Their doctrines are logical. But, the Mormon Church is basically the new Catholic Church. New wine has been poured into new bottles. Mormons say Catholics lost their authority and that Baptists/Evangelicals never had it. I don’t believe authoritative baptism alone will get me into heaven but I do believe it is a requirement and I’m a believing Mormon as well as a scientist.

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By: American Infidel http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/06/09/southern-baptists-hold-meet-amid-falling-baptisms/comment-page-1/#comment-4187 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:46:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/06/09/southern-baptists-hold-meet-amid-falling-baptisms/#comment-4187 hummmm, as I read this article and the comments…I wondered about what is going on in our churches (all denominations).

We – the Church have become seeker friendly and the true gospel unfriendly. We’ve turned into a people concerned with numbers in our churches and that should has no place in our churches.

We have opened our doors to the world, invited the world in and now we’re looking like the world instead of the church. Actually I tend to think some churches are no longer churches of Christ Jesus but are churches of secular worldliness.

I hear people tell me they have stopped attending church because they were tired of not hearing the word preached at their church and they felt they were attending a club, a group of ‘look at me, I went to church today and people will think I’m a good person’ club.

I know there are many Christians still in church and attending church services but we do have to acknowledge that some churches do not uplift Jesus and His teachings…they are more into feel good – tickle my ears teachings. This turns off the true Christians.

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By: eric http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/06/09/southern-baptists-hold-meet-amid-falling-baptisms/comment-page-1/#comment-4177 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:23:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/06/09/southern-baptists-hold-meet-amid-falling-baptisms/#comment-4177 poverty, homelessness and hunger(not to mention a male only clergy, almost), at this rate by 2050 or 2100 they might have the complete gospel teaching. About time.

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By: Holly B http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/06/09/southern-baptists-hold-meet-amid-falling-baptisms/comment-page-1/#comment-4172 Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:59:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/06/09/southern-baptists-hold-meet-amid-falling-baptisms/#comment-4172 To say that it has anything to do with persecuting women-as one commenter said-shows nothing more then lack of education and experience with the Southern Baptist Churches. I happen to be a Southern Baptist and a Woman. The idea that I’M persecuted is downright hilarious.

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By: Holly B http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/06/09/southern-baptists-hold-meet-amid-falling-baptisms/comment-page-1/#comment-4170 Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:40:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/06/09/southern-baptists-hold-meet-amid-falling-baptisms/#comment-4170 I think there’s quite a few issues at work.

One thing I’ve noticed is that some the S.B. preachers are inadvertently playing down the awesome experience of Baptism. The are simply promoting it as a “witnessing tool” to the congregation. While it is that, it is also much more than that. I will never forget my personal spirit-filled experience of Baptism. It made a huge impact on my life.

Most SB preachers need to offer Baptism services more often as well. They are often few and far between.

Another sad factor-I think-has to do with the sheer number of people pulling away from church membership and biblical practices in general today-in all denominations. When the number of people coming to Christ rises, the baptism rate will rise as well. Baptism is a requirement of membership at least in SBC-affiliated churches.

Essentially, we need to stop being stagnant and start rolling!

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By: Rebekah http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/06/09/southern-baptists-hold-meet-amid-falling-baptisms/comment-page-1/#comment-4169 Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:23:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/06/09/southern-baptists-hold-meet-amid-falling-baptisms/#comment-4169 This has zip to do with mormonism & Mitt Romney as a poster above stated and more to do with people tired of the “quaint” and ancient outlook of religion in general – whether it be islam, christianity,mormonism or whatever. I beg to differ with “johanan” and there are ZERO statistics regarding an influx of mormonism. Worldwide, mormonism has approximately 12 million followers. According to a documentary I watched on PBS, Mormonism loses as many members as they gain and the church never takes inactive members off their rosters – only the excommunicated. But back to religion in general – people are tired of the same old hate, segregation and general lack of logic and tolerance visible in almost all religions world wide. THAT is the reason many people are turning their backs on organized religion and are now identifying themselves as spiritual or deists.

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By: Chad http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/06/09/southern-baptists-hold-meet-amid-falling-baptisms/comment-page-1/#comment-4168 Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:29:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/06/09/southern-baptists-hold-meet-amid-falling-baptisms/#comment-4168 As a former Southern Baptist who converted to Catholicism, I can say for myself, that the reason I left the Southern Baptist denomination was because it tends to have a shallow ecclesiology. Due to the increase of available information at your fingertips via the internet, and other media, I think Baptists (among others) are able to see outside their religious boxes and make more informed decisions about their respective faith. I’m not so sure it has anything to do with Baptists being necessarily more exclusionary or intolerant. In fact, the statistics would say that the more liberal a denomination is the more likely it is to decline in numbers. See mainline Protestant denominations.

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By: John Kanagaraj http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/06/09/southern-baptists-hold-meet-amid-falling-baptisms/comment-page-1/#comment-4166 Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:23:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/06/09/southern-baptists-hold-meet-amid-falling-baptisms/#comment-4166 It is all about going “back to the basics”: Jesus wrapped up the Law and the Prophets in a simple command – Love your God with everything you have and love your neighbor as you would love yourself. If the SBC focuses only on what they hate, they (and any other organization as well) will not flourish, let alone grow…

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By: TexasPete http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/06/09/southern-baptists-hold-meet-amid-falling-baptisms/comment-page-1/#comment-4165 Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:20:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/06/09/southern-baptists-hold-meet-amid-falling-baptisms/#comment-4165 What is happening is that the Baptist community in America is dividing even more empatically into culturally conservative and liberal sects–or rather, that liberal sects (which have always been there) are growing in political importance both nationally and within Baptism. This is important.

But it is not as important as what is NOT happening: churches are not being bombed, neighborhoods are not being religously “cleansed,” Baptists aren’t shooting each other (except accidentally, during the second week of deer camp).

Secularists (like me) should perhaps give more thought to why and how Baptists and other religions in America are able to handle schism so peacably, amicably and constructively–especially as compared to how it is done in many other parts of the world.

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