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Vatican official attacks U.S. Democrats as “party of death”

By Reuters Staff
October 1, 2008

Senator Joe Biden with Catholic priest Zhang Depu near Beijing, 10 Aug 2001/poolVatican officials seldom single out political leaders who differ with the Church on issues like abortion rights or embryonic stem cell research. But now that the Vatican’s highest court is led by an American, the former St. Louis Archbishop Raymond Burke, we can expect things to get more explicit in Vatican City — at least when when it comes to U.S. politics.

Burke, who was named prefect of the Vatican’s Supreme Court of the Apostolic Signature in June, told the Italian Catholic newspaper Avvenire that the U.S. Democratic Party risked “transforming itself definitively into a party of death for its decisions on bioethical issues.” He then attacked two of the party’s most high profile Catholics — vice presidential candidate Joe Biden and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi — for misrepresenting Church teaching on abortion.

He said Biden and Pelosi, “while presenting themselves as good Catholics, have presented Church doctrine on abortion in a false and tendentious way.”

Nancy Pelosi kisses Pope Benedict’s ring during his U.S. visit, 16 April 2008/Larry DowningPelosi drew U.S. bishops’ scorn for saying in a television interview last month that the Church itself had long debated when human life begins. Biden is a practicing Catholic who also supports abortion rights and analysts have said he could help woo wavering Catholics into Obama’s fold. Both argue that they cannot impose their religious views on others.

Burke said pro-life Democrats were “rare” and that it saddened him that the party that helped “our immigrant parents and grandparents” prosper in America had changed so much over the years.

Burke made headlines as archbishop of St. Louis for his public attacks on public figures who strayed from Catholic teaching. He suggested during the 2004 presidential campaign that Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry, a Catholic, should be denied communion because of his views on abortion. Several bishops said at the time they would not give him communion and the media staked out churches where he attended Mass to see if he received it.

“Lately, I’ve noticed that other bishops are coming to this position,” Burke told Avvenire, which is owned by the Italian bishops’ conference.

Archbishop Raymond Burke/Archdiocese of St. LouisCardinal Joseph Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict XVI, wrote a letter in 2004 to American bishops restating the Church position that a priest must refuse to distribute communion to a Catholic politician who supported abortion rights. But Burke lamented that the letter was never distributed.

Burke’s criticism isn’t limited to Democrats. Last year, he accused singer Sheryl Crow of being “a high profile proponent of the destruction of innocent lives” for defending a woman’s right to have an abortion and for being a proponent of stem cell research. He resigned as head of a children’s medical charity that featured the singer for a benefit concert.

Pope Benedict has been encouraging Catholic bishops to speak out more openly on public policy issues to make the Church’s voice heard. Any bets on when we’ll hear from Burke next?

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Because this statement comes from a church it is mired in religious overtones….In reality it is a moral issue, always has been. It has never been morally right to murder an innocent life in the womb. Just because it is unborn does not change the fact it is a living human being. When a wanted child dies in the womb we mourn, yet when an unwanted child is aborted some of us give it no more thought than roadkill. To support this kind of thinking is little different than those who marched millions into gas chambers. Innocent life is either of value or it is not….We already know the value system of the Democrats.

Posted by Brett | Report as abusive
 

Burke has done more to set Catholicism back in the St. Louis area than well over 100 years of predecessors. Make no mistake, all of his proclamations have everything to do with control and power, and nothing to do with bringing light to people’s lives. For him to conceal the routine sexual abuses of priests; to not speak about about genocide in the world; to support Republican positions on death penalties, wars, and corporate greed; and to steal property from locals, through the condemnation of the pulpit and the the threat of eternal damnation is inexcusable. This man is a joke and should spend time in purgatory….oh wait, they just decided to rewrite that whole concept in 2006….so much for absolute clarity of doctrine.

Posted by TomInStL | Report as abusive
 

The Democratic Party the party of death? It was not the Democratic Party which killed thousands of dissenters over the centuries, taught murderous hatred of Jews, and did much to inspire the Nazi genocide of the Jews. It was the so-called Holy Church.

Posted by norman ravitch | Report as abusive
 

I believe its a womans right to choose. Whats funny is that the whole cover up with priest molesting children within the church really makes me sick. something needs to be done about it.

Posted by nikki | Report as abusive
 

arguing with someone who doesnt understand nor care to understand the underpinnings of the theology they hate… well, it is laughable.

there is such a thing as invincible ignorance… and no one group in the entire US can be attacked with impudence like the Catholic Church. We are aliens in a Protestant country. Even after all of these years.

The mal-educated are loud, poorly read, and proud. None can seem to understand that only those who seek Christian Perfection in this lifetime can be hypocrites. The bar is necessarily too high to be attained in this lifetime. Still, we are called to try.

Here I see the same old and tired of the lesser arguments:

1) so-called separation of church and state – check
2) Catholicism as the anit-science anti-christ – check
3) moral relativism – check
4) assumptions re the Inquisition – check

yep, in the US, Dan Brown and Michael Moore are the standard-bearers of the lay “intelligentsia”

give me a break and send the wayward albino monk living under the streets in the catacombs of the Vatican to the fiction racks.

Posted by Enoch | Report as abusive
 

Democrats are well schooled at fabricating lies that are convenient to their morally bankrupt positions. Being constrained by the truth is just more than they can handle. How can anyone even hint that the Catholic church has ever been anything but solidly, vocally opposed to abortion and homosexuality. It is scriptural truth and not debatable.

Posted by Charlie | Report as abusive
 

I did not know Republicans were willing wage *nuclear* warfare against Iran, seems to me they are the ones working to avoid it while the dems are hoping it will go away if they sit down with radical muslim leaders with tea and crumpets. The dems generally do not mind the murder of 1,300,000 unborn human babies each year in the US, or about 46 million since 1973. In fact they quite encourage it. Lefties, don’t even start, your position on this is indefensible.

Posted by Vern | Report as abusive
 

In my opinion religion not politics has been the engine that has fueled the killing. While we argue over the abortion issue… over when life begins… we go about killing innocents whether they be Vietnamese or Muslims and the church does nothing. It’s as was spoken in the documentary “Constantine’s Sword”, if we had been dropping contraceptives on vietnam instead of napalm, you would have heard all kinds of outcries from church officials. The same with the Muslims… we have painted them as a religion that wants to rule the world. Look at us. In the name of God we go out to kill those who are not believers.

Posted by Joe Stephens | Report as abusive
 

Abortion is not a religious issue it is a moral/social issue. As any interested party knows the, as a scientific fact, that there is life when cells can divide, move around… . This is the fact for plants, animal, fungi and humans. To deny this proves person ignorance (willful or otherwise).

The true question is when to people give the child full human rights. The Democrats argue that while the child is in the mother’s womb it has no human rights. This is proven by there actions and deeds if not there words. The Catholic Church argues that the child has human right from the moment of conception. Neither of these positions are religious but moral/social issues.

The majority of rational people can agree that if it a baby is moving, laughing, and smiling it is alive. They can also agree if it looks like a duck. walks like a duck and sounds like a duck it is a duck. When added together the logical conclusion is that long before birth the pre-born child is human. And if it is human, it should be give human rights of its own but with a degree of preference given to the mother. That is the rights must be balanced with greater regard given to the mother.

There is also a point while the baby is growing that it does not look like a human and some people may rational argue that it is not entitled to human rights.

This is the discussion we should be having “When should the pre-born be give human rights and how much should those rights be subservient to the mother”

The Democrats Party platform is that the pre-born child has no human rights and that the mother has full control over it. This is the same as the argument give in defense of slavery; slaves were property and did not have any human rights. In my opinion this is where the Democrats are wrong, if they defended the human rights of the pre-born after the time most people would agree it was human and defended the mother’s superior position before that time the party would have greater moral standing.

 

Michael,
The Vatican is not a political party!

Posted by Stephen | Report as abusive
 

Read your Bible, please.

It doesn’t say ANYTHING directly about abortion.

The Bible says A LOT, very specifically and repeatedly, about how bad it is to be wealthy. But somehow the Catholic Church manages to overlook that fact. Otherwise they would be chastizing the Republican party.

Posted by Lau | Report as abusive
 

Religion has always been part of American political process. Religion informs our core value systems. Would we have been rid of slavery (abolitionists), jim crow (Dr. King), or the great progressive social movements of the 19th century with out religiosly influenced and motivated people? I think not. Even the revolution stems much from the 1st great awakening in the colonies in the decades prior. People must read their history. De Toqueville had it right, the strength of America is a citizenry whose lives are grounded and influenced by a vibrant spiritual tradition.

Posted by Tom of Can tuk e' | Report as abusive
 

I’d hardly call Biden a practicing Catholic. Let’s see, over the past 10 years Biden has averaged less than $7. a week in all donations or .12% of his annual income. The last time he went to a Catholic church was probably for a funeral. Where are his morals? Does he only want to help people with other people’s money? This fits into the pattern of other high Democrat officials. They are the tightest of the tight while Republicans of all religions have recently shown to be much more generous giving 10% or more to their churches and charity. I don’t believe in tithing to a church, but spreading 10% of your income to all types of charit1es is probably a good thing to do.

Posted by Bruno Bornino | Report as abusive
 

Michael Cecil claims that the Republicans are threatening to nuke Iran(not true) but apparently he is failing to keep up with what Mr. Obama has said. See attached article where: Obama: Iran threatens all of us — Won’t rule out force in speech in Chicago to pro-Israel group.

The reason he states this is because Iran is a threat to the world. There are actually some things worth fighting for. Freedom happens to top the list, which is why I oppose Mr. Obama’s policies of bigger government. Bigger government takes away my ability to contribute as generously as I want to charities such as Smile Train, Wounded Warrior, St Jude Children’s Cancer Research Hospital and my church who supports among other things, pensions for African ministers and their spouses. How much money did you contribute to Africa from your personal bank account last year?

I’m not a wealthy conservative, I’m still theoretically not going to get my taxes raised under Mr. O’s plan, but I do not support his defense of letting babies die with no care who have survived botched abortions. Nor could I ever support killing a baby whose projected birthday is a couple of weeks away. Can’t you see how utterly Hitler-esque that kind of thinking is? And if you want to go there, how about the Terry Schaivo case? It was the Democratic party who supported her “humane” death of starvation and dehydration, not the Republicans. There actually is little doubt that Democrats are the party of death.

P.S. If you want a good laugh this weekend, go see “American Carol”. It shows what our country would be like if President Lincoln had chosen not to fight the Civil War. Might open your eyes a bit. Of course maybe you aren’t as open minded as you think you are…

 

Sheesh, who cares what these bishops think. They don’t live in the real world. Look at the membership of the catholic church. Down, down, down.

Posted by Derek | Report as abusive
 

First, thanks to all who have read this far.

Second, the amount of vitriol against the Catholic Church in many of these posts is sad and staggering.

Why is it that those who say they are “tolerant” and “accepting” (most of whom are anti-Catholic, anti-Christan, and anti-Liberty, but certainly not all) are the first to pull out the long knives when someone disagrees with them?

While I don’t expect that you who disagree with the Catholic Church would take the time to actually *read* her official documents (especially the Catechism), I think it was Bishop Fulton Sheen who said, “ninety-nine percent of those who hate the Church do so because of what they think the Church teaches,” inferring that when people actually read what the Church believes and teaches, the hate is (at least) replaced by understanding.

Why Jesus Christ founded the Church on Peter, a fallible human being (as are all human beings — bishops, priests, and you and me) is a mystery. However, the truths the Church teaches are just that – Truths !

(Note to the poster who mentioned the terracentric/heliocentric argument: understand that faith and reason work together, and consider the state of the world in those days. Then see if you can understand why the Church took a little longer that we “enlightened” moderns to accept heliocentricism).

Truth is absolute. Those who say it is not have defeated their own argument.

Shame on you for your hypocrisy!

Posted by ITB Conservative | Report as abusive
 

This “church” encourages the molesting of children yet takes what the catholics call “the high road”. Pope, sell you hat and give the money to the poor like Jesus would have done.

Posted by Mark | Report as abusive
 

This is silly. The eradication of dogma has led to more evil in the European continent in 30 years (1915-1945) than all the previous evil in all previous centuries. You dolts who claim ignorance about the obvious, when life begins, are no doubt repulsed because I club baby seals just to hear them squeal! Oh yeah! I make omelets out of bald eagle eggs because they are not yet a life! The best thing about mindless, immoral liberals is that they are a self-exterminating lot. Most of my friends reproduce like they have hope and something to live for. My pagan sister and gay brother are childless though. Abortion is the best idea for liberals to practice. Although I pray the INNOCENT who are lost. I wish that America had listened to its noninterventionist Republicans and let Hitler slaughter the lot of Europeans. The perfect abortion. You are right, we should have stayed out of that war in Europe and let the abortion loving freaks argue with the Nazi’s about how war sucks.
God Bless, even you heathens,
Chris

Posted by Chris Nelson | Report as abusive
 

there’s death seekers in both parties. what they fail to realize is that their own mothers were ALL pro-life !!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7vb1ZtmM IE

 

This is the leadership we in St. Louis have valued during Archbishop Burke’s service here. March on, noble Champion of the Lord!

Posted by Jim | Report as abusive
 

I’ve always thought of the Vatican and the Catholic Church as the “party of pedophilia”.

Posted by Cash Billings | Report as abusive
 

Both major parties are already parties of death.

Posted by Doug Brenner | Report as abusive
 

It’s hard to take this seriously when the Roman Church refuses to discipline members of its clergy who were convicted of genocide in Rwanda or discipline those of its clergy who promoted the Cambodian Genocide (and mass murder in South Vietnam and Laos) by supporting the Communist victory in Indochina. It is also a direct assault on American sovereignty as well as a vindication of principled anti-Catholic sentiment. The Roman Church pretends it has moral authority despite the fact that the pedophile priest scandals has definitively shown that it hasn’t.

Posted by Ark Ashamed of Bill | Report as abusive
 

Beautiful !!!
We have been waiting for the church to speak out boldly!
Pray for Pope Benedict & Cardinal Burke. The church has a divine responsibility (higher than man’s law) to proclaim truth… we will all be called one day to account for our actions, or lack thereof, in defending the children (born & pre-born). As Jesus declared “It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.” Luke 17:2

Posted by Dr. Kevin Norton | Report as abusive
 

sure, we as americans go out and napalm and kill alot of innocents. sure, things could be alot better and some guy with a video camera can prove anyone with any opinion is in the right. Yes, we should be walking a better path with our lives, i agree. but lets face it..napalm is pretty when it blows up and all these conflicts we fight make for great video games.

Posted by Evil neocon guy or so you say | Report as abusive
 

Yes. Pres. Bush sends thousands of our troops to die for a lie, while killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqi’s – and the democratic party now led by Obama, who spoke out AGAINST this, is the party of death.

And don’t they understand that a huge majority of those who are PRO CHOICE only vote that way because it’s not the governments choice to decide what a woman does with her own body? I would NEVER have an abortion but don’t want my legislators deciding this for me. This is still a free country.

SHAME ON THE POPE.

Posted by Amy | Report as abusive
 

FACT: The only President of the United States to approve and release a nuclear weapon against humanity was Harry S. Truman…Democrat.

The Democrats are the only party with a track record of nuking people.

 

I will pray for all those women and men who are not responsible enough to co-create a human being and then decide to kill the child.
But I do insist that my taxes do not go to assist any woman that has an abortion or is contemplating to.
If you want it–Pay for it yourself.

Posted by Donna Lenz | Report as abusive
 

Burke apparently mistakenly thinks he speaks for ALL Catholics….where are his comments regarding Bush & Cheney’s immoral war & torture ??? Does he think the Catholic Church is perfect? I beg to differ…let him judge his colleague, Cardinal LAW, who turned his back and moral authority on the children who were abused on “his watch”…Does Burke speak against that? What about the abuse in his own St. Louis area…how does he look at himself in the mirror these days, and not feel like a sinner?? I hope his “glass house” shatters!

 

should be of interest to OLOJ parishoners

Posted by n.salemi | Report as abusive
 

There are many who fault the Catholic Church for inserting itself into the political fray. Yet, these same individuals have no problem with the fact that Rev. Jeramiah Wright spoke for some 20+ years not only from the pulpit but directly into the ear of the Democratic Nominee, Barack Obama and his Wife Michelle.

You should believe that the words Rev. Wright spoke had a profound effect on Mr. Obama’s views. If you have any doubt about this please do your research on his voting record in Illinois and the US Senate. I won’t insult your intelligence by giving links that may sway those reading this to my way of thinking.

Religion or lack of it will always and has always creeped its way into governments. As long as any one Religion doesn’t run OUR government, our Constitution is safe.

Posted by Judy Dias | Report as abusive
 

Yes, and the Catholic Church risks “transforming itself into a Church of Pedophiles for hiding known pedophiles from law enforcement for decades within their church”. The churches continued tactics of dissemination regarding this issue and others disgusts me. Their position of moral authority is a joke. Raymond Burke, you disgust me.
A once and never again Catholic…
Good Day

Posted by Phillip Weeks | Report as abusive
 

My dear Michael….where do we begin? You conspiracy theorists truly have a gift for making all things more complicated than they really are. The ONLY thing the Roman Catholic Church is complicit in is spreading world Peace. Only a twisted mind sees otherwise. The Church is also opposed to war, but realizes that there always was, is, and will be conflict. I realize you can’t grasp this, but we’re a fallen race, and nothing will change that. There truly is Evil in the world, and where it is met, it must be dealt with.
As far as the US being on the verge of nuclear war with Iran…. It will never happen. You must learn to be thankful for Countries like the United States and Israel, who when faced with Evil, will seize the opportunity to quash it. Make no mistake; Iran will not be given the chance to acquire nuclear weapons.
You naively ask, where does the Church get the millions to rightly pay for all the abuse cases? By selling property, it’s really that simple my friend. And while you’re hung up on the abuse subject, did you know that the incidence of Priestly abuse is appx. 1.5% of acting Priests? While still way too high, it mirrors that of the general populous of appx 1.3%. And is no higher than that of any other religious order, or even that of the Boy Scouts. There goes that “fallen race thing” again….
I fully realize you’re a Dove with a capital D Michael, however, thank God there are just enough Hawks in the world to protect the rest of us from the evildoers in this fallen world. Relax buddy, things really aren’t all that complicated. After all, it was Christ who said,
“I say to you, except you turn, and become as little children, you shall in no way enter into the kingdom of heaven.”

Posted by Scott | Report as abusive
 

War was never necessary against anyone? I suppose that Michael and others would rather be speaking German (if their ancestors had been allowed to live). I suppose that countries like Iran should be allowed to do as they please and threaten their neighbors as they see fit. We know how much the UN is going to abate that. I’m sure they’ll play nice with everyone. And if they don’t, then we can have a war and surely it will involve a lot of innocent people.

No, surgical strikes on nuclear facilities and strategic locations is preferable. And where did Michael get his info of us going to nuclear war in the first place? I must have missed that. I don’t recall anything but conventional weapons being used since WWII. As always, there is someone on the fringe left that will seek to change the main conversation by diverting and elevating the talk to something on the extreme edge.

Posted by KW | Report as abusive
 

There is no such thing as a “pro-choice’ party. It is in fact PRO-DEATH. All of you PRO-DEATHers, think about where you’d all be if YOUR mothers had abortion available to them!!! All the PRO-death scam artists started by demanding easy access to contraceptives to prevent unwanted pregnancies. OK, you got it! Then that didn’t quite do the job, so let’s have abortion legalized. OK so you got it!! Next we can’t make up our minds to decide, abort or not to abort. Well, let’s wait 7 or 8 months. OK, let’s wait till the birth, and then we can suck the the little ‘whatever’s’ brains out and just kill the little ‘whatever’. Happy now?
No?? Well then what’s next?? You PRO-DEATHers are responsible for the dramatic increases in the murders of new born babies, dumping them in flushes, trash containers and whatever is available at the time. You have made life worthless with your total disregard for human life. Shame!!!

Posted by fred | Report as abusive
 

Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are the religions of death and in the case of Catholics they are also the religion of pedophilia. Let’s get real here, more lives have been lost & destroyed from these three than all the abortions in the world. It’s time for religion to stay out of politics; there is no place for fantasy thinking in out government. Why does the Catholic God kill so many in hurricanes and tsunamis? Is he just an angry, murdering bastard or isn’t it really that there is no God and all this make-believe is hurting humanity’s ability to deal with reality. I say it’s time to close down these 3 religions for the welfare and betterment of all the Earth’s inhabitants!

Posted by Reality Check | Report as abusive
 

I don’t know who all you bloggers are but none of what you say makes any difference to anything related to abortion. Abortion is a simple issue. If you believe life begins at conception (it’s a proven scientific fact that human DNA exists in the embryo) then abortion is murder – end of conversation. If you can justify in your moral value system that life begins when you decide it does then abortion at anytime other that what you think, even partial birth abortion, should be ok with you. If you believe the former then abortion is not a matter of choice it is a matter of murder and is not related to any other things. If you think the latter abortion it just removing something that is causing you an inconvenience – end of conversation. Any other conversation in just wasted rationalization and has no relevance at all.

The choice in this election is clear. On one side the candidates are strong believers in the sanctity of the life of the unborn child, on the other side are strong believers that anyone who wants to can kill their unborn child even using partial birth abortion. Shut America and make your choice. All should be happy that America finally have the chance to go on record before God and everyone as to where we stand. Don’t waste your time talking about it, it’s a personal choice based on you moral value system and your view as it relates to the respect you have for human life. We will show what our true value system isin this election. I think it’s great and don’t care what anyone else thinks. As I said before it’s a personal decision just shut up and make it. If you don’t have a value system that lets you make this decision without input from others you might want to think about a vote against abortion but that’s up to you I couldn’t care less what you think on this issue.

Posted by ld | Report as abusive
 

Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are the religions of death and in the case of Catholics they are also the religion of pedophilia. Let’s get real here, more lives have been lost & destroyed from these three than all the abortions in the world. It’s time for religion to stay out of politics; there is no place for fantasy thinking in our government. Why does the Catholic God kill so many in hurricanes and tsunamis? Is he just an angry, murdering bastard or isn’t it really that there is no God and all this make-believe is hurting humanity’s ability to deal with reality. I say it’s time to close down these 3 religions for the welfare and betterment of all the Earth’s inhabitants!

 

Raymond Burke was the Bishop in St. Louis for years. His ignorance, exemplified in this position, is exactly why I left the Catholic church. He was an embarrassment in St. Louis, his is an embarrassment in the Vatican. Dogma kills rational discussion.

Posted by recovering | Report as abusive
 

Take religion out of the abortion issue for this argument and decide – when does life begin?

Most rational people agree that murder is wrong. Once life begins, abortion has to be murder. It is always murder no matter how that life began, rape, incest, loving sex, in-vitro fertilization, makes no difference, if life has begun then it is murder. If I am the product of rape or incest is it OK to kill me when I am 50 years old? So, all this stupidity about abortion being OK in rape and incest makes no sense – it all depends on when life begins not how it begins. I can agree with terminating a preganancy early if the life and health of the mother is at risk but then every reasonable effort must be made to support the life of the baby because they are alive!

There is no scientific answer to when life begins so it is anyone’s opinion. If you choose to believe (are of the opinion) that life begins sometime after conception, then you need to decide when that is – 4wks? – 20wks? – 28 wks (commonly thought of as the age of viability i.e. in a medical sense when the baby is more likely to live than not if born then)? -full birth? If it is anything other than full birth then late term abortions are murder. If you think life begins at full birth then you should be OK with abortions up to the very second of birth – at 40 weeks. If you think life begins at some other time than birth, then to me you are just arbitrarily picking numbers. Most people agree that the abscence of brain function (brain death) is the end of life. Take that backwards and you could argue that the beginning of brain function is the beginning of life – that is about 1 week after conception – so almost every fetus is alive one week after conception and thus almost every abortion is murder even from a purely scientific view.

We as people have a responsibility to prevent murder, no matter where or how or when it occurs, no matter whether we like, know, approve of or care about the victim, . Yes, we have a responsibility to prevent the type of murder called abortion by direct intervention, legislation, education or any other non violent means.

If you are a religious person, the Bible clearly teaches that life begins at conception. So, for any christion every abortion is always murder and every christian has a right and responsibility to actively work against abortion.

I know of no one who has said that you have to be perfect before you can encourage others to be better. So, just because the Bishop or the church is not perfect, they can still encourage others to be better. I am very over weight but I can still encourage my wife to lose weight, this is not being judgemental, this is being human and supportive. The bishop did not encourage that the politicians be stoned, cast into hell or anything like that – he just wants them to follow thier faith better.

Posted by js | Report as abusive
 

The dems are the party of death indeed, and abortion is the sickest act of inhumanity ever perpetrated on humanity and you people “OWN IT” ..History will show who the animals were in the 20th and 21st century, that you can be sure..

Anyone who defends the killing of fetuses has no ground to stand on for anything regarding other peoples morality or lack thereof. If you can’t defend the weakest of humans to the tune of 50 plus million in less than a coupeldecades, you people are the wrost mass murderers in human history, how does it feel?

Then all these stupid clever little monikers you people use all like this crapola, as everyone in Sodom & Gomorrah known as liberal land has a label and five names like so: “pro choice catholic PC approving African Italian American Joe says” what the hell is that crap about anyway? Stand for something for once besides death and hatred.. What a bunch of crap you people spew calling yourselves intellectuals and purveyors of freedom and such, You need help please get it..

 

I say go Brother Burke! You rock! As far as war in general, I’m sure he’d have a lot to say–especially about the one in Iraq. Unfortunately, some are necessary and will not cease till the true Prince of Peace comes…and by the way, He will be weilding a rod of iron, book of Revelation…let’s see, is he breaking the ten commandments? I think not. And if we consider abortion murder, then religious belief has nothing to do with it. Shall we legalize all murder? I think not!

 

I don’t have audio on my computer, so if you can’t read that I put “rose” then I guess my comment can’t be posted. If there’s something else I need to do, I can’t hear it to do it. (Please don’t post this comment because it’s to you whoever you are!)

 

When the Pope turns himself and Cardinal Law (harboring in the Vatican) in for questioning and trial regrading their complicity in systematic sexual abuse of children, there may be some reason to listen. Until then, “let he who is without guilt…” and “better to be cast into the depths with a millstone around the neck” apply.

Posted by Tony | Report as abusive
 

Many of these comments seems like they are touchy. How hard is it to understand that when you support the termination of 47 million helpless infants, you are changing the life of the country. The only thing that the Vatican did was reaffirm the facts. Prayerfully, i hope that this message and other messages from the Bishops will change the hearts of the many Catholic who have been misled by those who deviate from Church teachings for selfish reasons.

Posted by Deacon Joe | Report as abusive
 

Can’t impose your religion on others? Everyone has deeply held beliefs that drive your decisions. It is impossible NOT to have a belief system. Not all religions have deities. How then can you say you have no religion. You CAN’T have equal care and concern for all points of view, it’s an impossibility. Try and have equal care and concern for views of a rapist and the woman he wants to rape. It is not possible. Either he gets his way, or she gets hers. We KNOW that her way is correct. Stop trying to sound high and mighty and say ‘you have no religion’ – you absolutely have beliefs and a point of view. The point is – whose view is correct?

Posted by James Johnson | Report as abusive
 

It’s about time Catholic democrats who support abortion are called out by their church. They proudly announce their religion in campaign media but then twist its principals to fit their political agenda. Pelosi and Biden have only to look in the mirror to see who to blame for this issue coming to the forefront now. Biden and Pelosi: “I am a good catholic……not.”

Posted by Tallboat | Report as abusive
 

We loved you in St Louis Archbishop and appreciate your unwavering support of the Church!

Posted by LJ | Report as abusive
 

Well, it’s about time!! My entire family were democrats until the mid 70′s, yea they saw the light and went republican. Im glad to see SOME people arent afraid to be seen as “politically un-correct”? If folks of this country dont see that its dangerous to lose morals then it’s all over but the crying. GOOD JOB BISHOP! Amazing to me that were even worried about this Obama and his cronies getting control of our Nation! Just 20 years ago we’d have just laughed at the idea of this guy with sooooo many warning signs even thinking of running for the highest office in the world. WOW. Ronald Regan was right when he said that “freedom is just 1 generation away from being lost”…now were watching that very thing happen…God help us! reminds me of a song by an old group called Megadeath, “Symphony of Destruction”, next time you see a rally for Obama, turn down the tv volume and throw in the cd.

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If you do not know when life begins, why do you act like you do? If you think there’s a baby inside the brown paper bag, you do not kick the bag.

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