I agree with the Catholic church taking a stand on this abortion issue. Someone needs to stand up and it’s about time. Too bad the priests are afraid to get up on the pulpit and tell us like it is. War is wrong, but we need to protect our children from attacks and be proactive, not hide and wait to be attacked by those who hate us and hate freedom. Voting Democratic right now is certainly going to limit our freedoms that we so love as we get ready for the world of socialism. Abortionists will no doubt be paid less for abortions since the government will be in control of health care, therefore, the less qualified physicians will be preforming these. Maybe that’s a good thing. More deaths to our nations youth and daughters in the name of socialism. Less and less doctors will be available to perform these, because their pay rates will be controlled by the government and there is not a lot of money are praise to doctors who are supposed to pledge “First do no harm” before they are given docter privileges. We need to protect our girls from evil. Abortion is an evil act. If you have had an abortion and feel great about it there is something wrong with you. It’s great to say it’s no big deal, but the truth is there are walking wounded out there who have suffered due to an abortion. I believe having pro-life candidates is a FOR SURE sign to try and fix the flaws of abortion rights. One of these candidates has a downsyndrome child. Could this be a sign from God that we better listen as Catholics and we better stop picking and chosing what we like most about being Catholic. Will they reverse the rules on abortion? Most likely not, but I do hope and pray then when I turn my Republican vote in that they will start putting up major restrictions and or abolish this act together. It scares me that my daughter can go with out my knowledge and obtain an abortion as young as 15.
Girls can get an abortion without mom or dad knowing it as long as they can scrape up the money. They are using abortion as a birth control method. Planned Parenthood would like you to think that they are doing all they can to prevent abortions with counseling, but this is just not true. Abortion is not birth control but it sure is being used as such. Girls are immature and just trying to get out of an unplanned pregnancy so they don’t have to face mom and dad. What about the boy’s family? They are left completely out of the picture. Let’s face it, it’s big business at the expense of our American population. Now, if my daughter was raped and became pregnant it would be difficult for me to have her go through with the pregnancy, however the child is not evil- the act is. I am not sure what I would do because this child is my own relative and not a frog to be squashed without some thought. However, the majority of abortions are not the result of rape or incest. This is my potential grandchild missing. Who could this person have been? These children may be adopted- and our current adoption policies indeed are so messed up, Americans would rather adopt from China than here. That’s another issue. The laws need to be revamped to help these American women who deep down would like to keep their baby or see it adopted and feel good about doing the right thing, but cannot afford it. I would happily pay taxes to support this. I guess my point is, abortion is being used as birth control by girls behind their mother’s backs for girls between the ages of 15-20. Abortion just encourages irresponsability and way to get out of being stupid. This is wrong. What is happening to our country when a girl can go and do this without the counsel of a caring adult? Obama thinks its cool that they have a choice and openly ADMITS it. If our president thinks abortion is cool, him (Obama) being the biggest role model of the country, then why are we surprised that our youth are so messed up? They need to look up to someone who has morals. By the way if you are treated in the hospital shortly after a rape, pregnancy can be prevented with proper care. Inner city girls are getting abortions because they are not being parented or lack parents, or any type of proper sex education, or encouraged to keep themselves safe by not having sex at all. The public school system needs to encourage purity for the sake of these girls, put counselors in place in high schools so they can be helped. These are our future adults and mothers. We simply are too busy and too accepting of abortion as the status quo and have closed our eyes. We should be protecting our future population and the mental health of our girls of this country. As a Catholic this is obvious to me. We need to protect our American daughters not only from an unwanted pregnancy, but from the spread of disease. But no, this would be too moral and God like. God wants us to be happy, which is why purity is in the Bible and taught in religion class. I would like to think that He encourages purity because he does not want to see the spirit suffer from the mental anguish that occurs shortly after the abortion or many years later, when these girls marry and have see their baby’s faces and wonder…what have I done? Our youth need our help. Catholic adults voting for Obama are committing a sin and voting for EVIL. Our nation’s children should come first which is why I WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree and am warmed by this Bishops comments. These children of ours need to be counseled which our country severely lacks because we have taken God out of our schools, listened to the liberal agenda serving the needs of sinners. The 10 commandments are a general unknown to our youth unless parents are actively talking their children about what is right and what is wrong. Something to think about when you vote for a someone so for abortion as Obama is and WHOLEHEARTED endorses killing a baby that has unbelievably survived a botched abortion. I guess he doesn’t care if his daughters decide to engage in this behind his back. He is a senator first and a father second and supposedly has no problem with his daughter being on an abortion table. Now, we are paying the price for all the murderous abortions with our failed economy. It’s all about money and that’s how God is trying to get our attention. God is watching. Do you care?

I find it truly amazing that this election is exposing the true colors of some spiritual leaders, and even the Vatican and Pope. I don’t think that the issues they are using to defamate the Democratic party leaders are necessary or acceptable. I am certain that the Lord is watching and taking notes, because He says,” 1. Judge not, that you be not judged. 2. For with what you judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measure back to you. 3. And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4. Or how can you say to your brother,’ Let me remove the speck from your eye; and look a plank is in your own eye? 5. Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. 12. Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophet. 15. Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 21. Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven ( The last time I checked, judging, is not doing The Father’s will. Only He can judge!) 22. Many will say to Me in that day,’ Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name? 23. And then I will declare to them, ‘ I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!” Matthew 7: 1-5, 12,15,21-23.

Thus, beware my Brothers and Sisters. Those who are voiceful and stakes claims at the expense of the Lord are not always doing His work, and the consequences that they will pay is unimaginable.

Unfortunately in the Diocese of Stockton, California, USA, our bishop has pushed a pro-Democrat agenda on the Catholics of this diocese. He recently stated
“…under the Democrats, there have been fewer abortions.” That is not a truth. Actually, it is through the actions of a very positive, dedicated pro-life group (of all faiths) that abortions are down - not low enough,but still fewer. Through offering support to unwed mothers or mothers with unwanted pregnancies, that much of this has come about. The Catholic church in many communities is active in this effort. - But as I said, our bishop subscribes to the USCCB policies which, in the opinion of many of us Republicans and conservative Democrats falls short of what we are called to do as Christians.

It’s totaly amzing to me that some of you on here think that life exists only at birth. I suppose that’s your way of justifying abortion. In consideration of that thought process, then you aren’t killing anything. The unborn is the most defenseless of the defenseless. So all of you who are trying to compare abortion to collateral damage in wartime are just kidding yourselves. It always amazes me that liberals always criticize the war (and these Islamo Fascists want us all dead) but are perfectly fine with abortion. Not being judgmental as only our Creator reserves that right but I pray you all wake up before it’s too late.

Liberals,

Abortion is killing a baby. You’ve deluded yourselves or sold your souls to believe that you are exercising some decent “choice,” when in fact you’re killing a person who cannot speak for his/herself.

What’s the liberal definition of abortion?

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There are many subjects not discussed specifically in the Bible, but I’m curious what does Jeremiah 1:5 mean to you? “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you.” Abortion can no more be left between the person and God, than murder. What about the 5th commandment “Thou shalt not kill?” Or are you one of those people who argues abortion is not killing an actual person? We have laws in place to protect people and there is no longer any debate that these unborn babies are people.
As for our God- Jesus died to accept the punishment for all our sins. God no longer punishes “the wicked” on earth like He did in the Old Testament. That is why you don’t find any of the stories in the New Testament like the ones in Leviticus.
I know if Roe vs. Wade were overturned it would no more stop abortions than laws against murder prevent drive by shootings. The point is, if abortion is accepted by our society as a reasonable solution, we cannot expect God to bless our nation. Luke 12:31 “Seek first His kingdom and these other things will be given you besides.”
You say abortion should be left out of politics, however, you are fighting to keep a law in place allowing it. I encourage you to educate yourself before making your comments. Actually, in 2002, President Bush signed the Born Alive Infants Protection Act which reaffirms the legal principle that all infants born alive are entitled to the full protection of the law. This came about because congress received testimony that some infants who had been born alive after unsuccessful abortions were left to die in the soiled linen closets. Also in 2003, Bush signed the Partial- Birth Abortion Ban prohibiting the barbaric practice of abortionists where, the baby’s entire body is delivered except for the head. The abortionist then jams scissors into the baby’s skull. The scissors are then opened to enlarge the hole and removed. A suction catheter is inserted to suck out the baby’s brains causing the skull to collapse. The dead baby is then removed. My… how far we have come as a society. Obama has said, “The first thing I will do as President is sign the Freedom of Choice Act.” (FOCA) FOCA would nullify all the protective legislature regulating the abortion industry including partial-birth abortion, the Infants Protection Act, parental consent laws, as well as waiting periods. At least a Republican president would not take us back to these horrible practices. Here is a quote from Mother Theresa which pretty much sums it up…
“America needs no words from me to see how your decision in Roe v. Wade has deformed a great nation. The so-called right to abortion has pitted mothers against their children and women against men. It has sown violence and discord at the heart of the most intimate human relationships. It has aggravated the derogation of the father’s role in an increasingly fatherless society. It has portrayed the greatest of gifts — a child — as a competitor, an intrusion, and an inconvenience. It has nominally accorded mothers unfettered dominion over the independent lives of their physically dependent sons and daughters”
And, in granting this unconscionable power, it has exposed many women to unjust and selfish demands from their husbands or other sexual partners. Human rights are not a privilege conferred by government. They are every human being’s entitlement by virtue of his humanity. The right to life does not depend, and must not be declared to be contingent, on the pleasure of anyone else, not even a parent or a sovereign.” (Mother Theresa — “Notable and Quotable,” Wall Street Journal, 2/25/94, p. A14)

Homosexuals force gay marriage down our throat all the time. Leftists are mad that religion preserves decency because if people have no decency they can peddle their filth all they want. Actually, society has stepped way over the boundary and enslaved itself with sex and egoism. People living with each other out of wedlock and having sex outside of marriage destroys the nucleus of society: the family. The cultural revolution has pushed our soceity over a cliff, making people cold and indifferent, pursuing hedonistic pleasures with no regard for self or neighbor. Jesus said that he destroyed the law through showing the Father’s love, but that not one letter of the law has been removed. Looking to preserve society morals is not casting stones, it’s preserving the decency which allows love to flourish through helping each other, not taking the easy way out of erasing a life.

I think we all need to go back to the saying “What would Jesus do”. So what did he do? He lived his life so as to provide us with an example of what it means to sacrifice self for the sake of another. The total opposite of selfishness, he gave his whole self, even to the point of death. So what is self-sacrifice? Is it to take the easiest, most comfortable road possible? Or- is it to take the road that that is the most difficult, most contrary to our human nature so as to do whatever possible to help our fellow man? Maybe that is why many times the “right” decision seems so foreign to us, because it goes against our very nature to be comfortable. So you decide. Which is more difficult? To have an abortion to “take care of a problem” or to give up our very lives for a totally separate, distinct life within us? (The separate/distinct part is just a scientific fact.) And are they really our bodies to begin with? Don’t forget 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 “Do you not know that your body is a temple of the holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? For you have been purchased at a price.” Let’s even go so far as to take the most horrific example- rape. Can you imagine how difficult it would be for a woman who had been raped to carry a baby (conceived by rape) to term? She would sacrifice everything for 9 whole months- to give up her life for this child within her- to allow God’s grace to take over and His will to be fulfilled- remember Romans 8:28? “We know God causes ALL THINGS to work together for GOOD”. Let’s face it- children are a blessing no matter how they are conceived (Psalm 127:3-5). Who are we to put limits on God. What is to stop God from taking a child conceived out of rape and making him someone great? How do we have the right to snuff out this life simply because of the torture or embarrassment we would suffer? We adopted one of our children and have no idea of the circumstances of his conception, but he has been nothing but a blessing to our family. If he had been conceived by rape, we would not love him any less. Let us not presume to know or understand the ways of God (Isaiah 55:8) “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways my ways, says the Lord.” But let us instead ask his Holy Spirit to come into our hearts to teach us His way, His truth, and His life. Let’s listen to the voice of the Lord as He spoke to Jeremiah (1:5) “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you.” And even if you still aren’t convicted of this, just ask our Lord to write His truth in your heart- and He will. So what would Jesus do?

You crazy a** pro-lifers are out of your minds. You cannot sit there and tell anyone that a newly-formed ball of cells in some woman’s uterus is a human being (one with rights no less). Let’s be real here. If you’re pro-life, then be pro-life and NEVER kill or lobby to kill a thing. That means no bad guys in prison. No trees and other biological life. No marching over to someone else’s country and bombing its people to death. Every pro-lifer out there is a HYPOCRITE for that very reason. Kill everyone and everything else, but don’t destroy a handful of cells that don’t even qualify as a child. That being said, I am conservative, and in any normal circumstances, I would never terminate a child growing inside of me under normal circumstances, however, if I were raped tomorrow, I would be downing the morning after pill as if it were to save my life (or the abortion pill for that matter). I could never bring a child into the world out of such an atrocity - and if you are one of those idiots that hates when people argue this point, then you are just that, a VERY selfish idiot (that I’m nearly 100% positive would be changing your tune if this happened to you or someone close to you). That also being said, if by some divine intervention that happened and pregnancy happened to go further into term than the first few weeks to months, I would NOT terminate, as I believe partial birth abortion is just as terrible. To simply put this, this is NOT a black and white issue (read everything I just wrote), and furthermore, the goverment has no place legislating moral or religious issues, which this is anyway. That in and of itself is socialism. Who are you to try and dictate what anyone does in their personal lives with their significant other and their children or would-be children. Are you going to be there to support (physically, emotionally, and financially) the poor mother that you want to force to have that child when he or she is born into this world? If not then sit down and shut up. It’s none of your business. By the way, the dirty Catholic church especially has no bearing here at all. They have committed such atrocities throughout history they should be hiding in the shadows and praying for themselves. Whatever they have to say about anything is not only irrelevant, but shows a complete lack of focus on what they really need to be focusing on, which is themselves. They need to pull the plank out of their eyes before pointing out the spec in our society’s.

I think the more neo-con catholics (whether bishops or not) fight against progress and an enlightened society, the less influence the church has in the world. I’m not sure Joseph Ratsinger understands this very well. The more conservative he and his bishops are, the less relevant the institutional church becomes.