Comments on: Pope hopes Nazi-era predecessor moves toward sainthood http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/10/09/pope-hopes-nazi-era-predecessor-moves-toward-sainthood/ Religion, faith and ethics Sun, 16 Jun 2013 21:17:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: nancy http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/10/09/pope-hopes-nazi-era-predecessor-moves-toward-sainthood/comment-page-1/#comment-7798 nancy Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:59:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/10/09/pope-hopes-nazi-era-predecessor-moves-toward-sainthood/#comment-7798 its funny--the pope defends this mans "secret" way of saying nothing,and then the blog post here for today it states that the pope is calling on christians to speak out more on moral issues. God figure its funny–the pope defends this mans “secret” way of saying nothing,and then the blog post here for today it states that the pope is calling on christians to speak out more on moral issues. God figure

]]> By: D B http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/10/09/pope-hopes-nazi-era-predecessor-moves-toward-sainthood/comment-page-1/#comment-7752 D B Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:17:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/10/09/pope-hopes-nazi-era-predecessor-moves-toward-sainthood/#comment-7752 TheTruthIs – That was spoken like a true bigot. I noticed that you didn’t try to back up your claim with actual historical facts. I would like to repeat a couple of points that I have made before on this topic. Pope Pius XII did more than any other religious leader of his day to help they Jews and I challenge anyone to show me a religious leader who did more (including Jewish leaders) during that time period. That is why the Grand Rabbi of Jerusalem Isaac Herzog chose to honor the Pontiff. Now why didn’t he speak out more? Before the U.S. entered the war in 1942 over 3,000 priests and religious brothers (monks) and sisters (nuns) were already in death camps. The Pontiff knew the very lives of these people were in jeopardy if he had said anything. The U.S. deputy chief of counsel at the Nuremberg war trials, Dr. Robert M.W. Kempner, wrote, “Every propaganda move of the Catholic Church against Hitler’s Reich would have been not only ‘provoking suicide’. . . but would have hastened the execution of still more Jews and priests.” TheTruthIs – That was spoken like a true bigot. I noticed that you didn’t try to back up your claim with actual historical facts. I would like to repeat a couple of points that I have made before on this topic.

Pope Pius XII did more than any other religious leader of his day to help they Jews and I challenge anyone to show me a religious leader who did more (including Jewish leaders) during that time period. That is why the Grand Rabbi of Jerusalem Isaac Herzog chose to honor the Pontiff.

Now why didn’t he speak out more? Before the U.S. entered the war in 1942 over 3,000 priests and religious brothers (monks) and sisters (nuns) were already in death camps. The Pontiff knew the very lives of these people were in jeopardy if he had said anything. The U.S. deputy chief of counsel at the Nuremberg war trials, Dr. Robert M.W. Kempner, wrote, “Every propaganda move of the Catholic Church against Hitler’s Reich would have been not only ‘provoking suicide’. . . but would have hastened the execution of still more Jews and priests.”

]]> By: sasha http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/10/09/pope-hopes-nazi-era-predecessor-moves-toward-sainthood/comment-page-1/#comment-7709 sasha Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:47:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/10/09/pope-hopes-nazi-era-predecessor-moves-toward-sainthood/#comment-7709 This holy man has been villified enough. He was not in a very good situation to do much of anything.If he would have done anything against the nazis, they would have marched in and taken over the vatican states and he would have been their prisoner and not have been able to help anyone. Besides that he hid jews in his home and protected them. This holy man has been villified enough. He was not in a very good situation to do much of anything.If he would have done anything against the nazis, they would have marched in and taken over the vatican states and he would have been their prisoner and not have been able to help anyone. Besides that he hid jews in his home and protected them.

]]> By: raffi shahinian http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/10/09/pope-hopes-nazi-era-predecessor-moves-toward-sainthood/comment-page-1/#comment-7679 raffi shahinian Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:37:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/10/09/pope-hopes-nazi-era-predecessor-moves-toward-sainthood/#comment-7679 I guess this has and will always be a polarizing issue. No one knows what was in Pius' heart when he did, or didn't do, what he did (or didn't do). But I have <a href="http://www.parablesofaprodigalworld.com/2008/10/should-we-expect-saint-to-be-more.html" rel="nofollow">a very particular take on the whole beatification issue</a>, for anyone who might be interested. Grace and Peace, Raffi Shahinian <a href="http://www.parablesofaprodigalworld.com/2008/10/should-we-expect-saint-to-be-more.html" rel="nofollow">Parables of a Prodigal World</a> I guess this has and will always be a polarizing issue. No one knows what was in Pius’ heart when he did, or didn’t do, what he did (or didn’t do). But I have a very particular take on the whole beatification issue, for anyone who might be interested.

Grace and Peace,
Raffi Shahinian
Parables of a Prodigal World

]]> By: TheTruthIs... http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/10/09/pope-hopes-nazi-era-predecessor-moves-toward-sainthood/comment-page-1/#comment-7675 TheTruthIs... Fri, 10 Oct 2008 04:24:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/10/09/pope-hopes-nazi-era-predecessor-moves-toward-sainthood/#comment-7675 This disgraceful and morally reprehensible campaign to make someone a saint who was nothing more than a Nazi appeaser - who probably supported the annihilation of the jews, is proof that their is nothing holy about the Pope. This disgraceful and morally reprehensible campaign to make someone a saint who was nothing more than a Nazi appeaser – who probably supported the annihilation of the jews, is proof that their is nothing holy about the Pope.

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